*comf* guys

eeeh... balrog is still so hard to kill OR it must be killed in other way?..
didn't ever try balrog by myself, but i don't believe that
it's necessary that 5 warriors die in order to kill a mob

and... was it mume-VI ?

*comf* guys

eeeh... balrog is still so hard to kill OR it must be killed in other way?..
didn't ever try balrog by myself, but i don't believe that
it's necessary that 5 warriors die in order to kill a mob

and... was it mume-VI ?

yes, it must have been in mume VI
yes, it must be done in other way
no, it's not necessary that 5 warriors die

Didi pierces the Balrog's head very hard and tickles it.

That was mistake number one i'd say, piercer *shiver*

And they were slow slow slow, going out to heal and resanc, but now in mume7 sanc lasts much longer... and is usually better, warriors can have both good hps and good sanc, since they only need wil, not good wis..

problem was that balrog had time to heal up, thatswhy 5 warriors died...
next time maybe heal faster, and you might get more success..

did you guys have the rings?

Nowadays every second puke has numerous pbs's so mana flows swifter and healing
+ sancting takes a fragment of the time. I'd think all would have to be berserk
and hitting hard, not piercing *stare*.

Manatark, the effect of the noc pbs is highly overrated.

Fuck I knew I was a deadman in this log :(. Yes we fucked up but spare the comments, 90% of that group knows perfectly well how to do Balrog, the risks etc so dont give me bullshit about not having the right chars etc.

Not everyone have a bunch of fags hangining about ready to sanc you etc (HINT Rogon). We used whatever group we could muster. I remember doing it another time as orc and that time we had (p)Didi's orc scout with us, noone died and everything went smoothly.

Not having fags ready to sanc galdor, does that mean you didnt sanc? or what do you mean? ouch!!!

Since i dont have a newbie-harem like you do, then it can be quite tough to get a group together. Of course i sanc, but sometimes if you want something done and you cant get the group you gotta take a risk, you know the thing most players on mume do and you dont...

Actually piercing was the most effective weapon type (cept blackened axe of course) against roggie in M6 :-)

Anyway, Balrog was _much_ tougher in M6 than it is nowadays, for a variety of reasons. People frequently died, even if it was led perfectly, and often all died. Nowadays it's a cert if you have a good leader *sigh*

So as you now wield some power in mume management, why not fix him? Shining and the other balrog loot was more exciting when it was hard to get. Now any looser can get it.

Not flaming you, I've never done Balrog and prolly never will, so respect to that in any case. I dunno how underrated noc pbses are, but 4-6 of them sure give you some extra edge. Last I saw Balrog done 1 caster sanced 4+ players and that was thanks to pbses. Speed counts.

M7 warr much better than m6 warr. I had around 400 hits and average sanc in m6. Now in m7 as dwarf with wil 18-20 (depending on age and around 440-470 hits depending on age both hits and sanc dam extremely better. So... Do da balrog harder! :-) (but if you do so maybe only dwarven warrs will be able to do it?)

And its easier now to do it cause of pbses,a few pbses and ONE sancer is enuff to sanc whole party .-)

I dont think Balrog should be hardened. This log shows that Balrog is not underpowered.
It's pretty hard to get group for it nowadays like it is (maybe except for powerful labs).

I've seen one cleric sanc all 7 warriors for balrog... half a dozen pbs and that lore whatevere its name was + 1 min sleep...

And galdor, you can join my newbie harem, i have a free spot avaible.

That log is really old.
Balrog was a lot harder back then.
We didn't exactly "fuck up", but the mid-fight healing took perhaps 10-20
seconds too long and we charged anyhow --- aware of the risks.

That group you see in the log is probably a lot more legend material than
what is usually logged on alltogether these days, but mostly people who can
actually take risks (e.g. risk mobdeath and be happy with it, since the risk
itself makes the game interesting).

That's one old-school kind of player that has gone missing.
Twisted rock fragments, heh. Fuck that. :-)

M6 warrior was much better then m7 warrior...
i miss me str 17 int 15 wis 20 dex 14 con 17 wil 16 per 12 3rd age mind u
sanc/healing/bobing warrior with 350 hps and 100 mana or so named Paradox:)
ahh that was fun:)

Galdor says "but sometimes if you want something done and you cant get the group you gotta take a risk, you know the thing most players on mume do and you dont... " Really? Most players in mume take risks? You sure coulda fooled me. Maybe in mume's past. Today's mumers run around with 20 scrolls, rock fragments, 20 draughts, and an occasional dozen pbs.

P.S. 20 ms lab links cut down the risk factor alot btw. At least compared to
the 250ms unstable links from the U.S. (Not that link has much of
anything to do with this particular log)

Galdor says "but sometimes if you want something done and you cant get the group you gotta take a risk, you know the thing most players on mume do and you dont... " Really? Most players in mume take risks? You sure coulda fooled me. Maybe in mume's past. Today's mumers run around with 20 scrolls, rock fragments, 20 draughts, and an occasional dozen pbs.

P.S. 20 ms lab links cut down the risk factor alot btw. At least compared to
the 250ms unstable links from the U.S. (Not that link has much of
anything to do with this particular log)

Erhm.. if your general oppimion is that everyone have loots of scrollies, rocks and 20 draughts and a dozen pbs, then i guess you knoz the wrong ppl.
You know some of us find it darn funny to use that last draught trying to pursue those fleeing pukes, without worrying how to get back ?
And about those rocks... hell, getting them takes a LONG time and very few players have them. A dozen pbs ? well, you can do a pbs poweregen (tm) once every 48.minute RL.. and still few ppl have many pbs. And what is my point in this comment ? To say that you should try to stop worrying so much about what others got, and start having fun with whatever you got. Play brave, its worth it:)

I talked about that warrs better vs balrog now. Your 14 con bad str warr wasnt that good vs balrogs as most extreme (dwarf) warrs is today. Thats what i meant. In pk ofcourse da sanc/smite warrs of m6 was uhm damn nasty :-)