Ok now, share that eq right, I dont want you to hoard.
See ya in some time now, boring to play now really. When 8 pukes storm 2 darkies INSIDE old fornost there is something weird.
Btw, P(Thilax) was the elf, valkyria. Talked to him later and he said it was sooo right not to overkill us. The spamming dwarf was Khandar,
"Im linkless", "Im freezing", "Thanks for not killing me", "Hehe, I stoped lagging and brought 10 pukes!".

Ok, now all go fuck yourseleves somewhere, especially Morthe, who didn't want to
fight 2 on 2 inside tbad when I was playing orc btw. This was at the top of
lame-mountain but what can I say, I blocked myself inside hatch and door after
Rhuka dies and eventually I also meet my fate at Kraken. Well, there was no
big chance to stay alive, and also why didn't beast come? If its not possible
to beast out there shouldn't be a beastmessage.

Was that eq puke receipts or darkie ones?

Well, first off beast does not come west of neni. He might not even
come west of last bridge. This is pretty common knowledge amoung
most darkies.
If those were not puke receipts you are quite the loser,
equipment should be shared, especially on the dark side. It's a game
and i could think of many people on when u died that could have put
that equip to good use, rather then see it all hidden at sign ppi
now or some crap. In general if you share equipment with many
when you die you find it given back to you with ease. Razhim
is a good case to look at for this, altho you guys got a lab
so who cares right?

Also i wouldn't have slain those 2 pukes after the dwarf started
spam yelling lag/frozen. Sure you target the elf with link and think
it's fair, but if dwarf woulda had link, they could have fought together
and possibly done something, but i'm sure you don't agree with me.

*shrug* The majority of those pukes were prob under level 21, not
sure i really feel sorry for you here after seeing this.

i would like to start to say, im grateful that you spared me i was having shitty link and suddenly zmud crashes on me when i came back into it after some windows *curse* shitty problem link was stabilizing (shitty english) and in all the spam i didnt notice shit and suddenly there where like 80571 pukes and im totaly freaking out :) i was sure i was gonna rip freezing like a polar bear, thanks again. you faught rockingly big kudos!

khandar, the well walking freezing freekill :P

forgot to say one thing i didnt brought 19431295 pukes dammit!

whitie receipts last i heard
heh everyone remember to spam those pukes for eq, they sure as hell dont have any excuse with THIS log

fucking lame *comf rhuka, gimil*
at least no more 20gold/day rent *tickle*

All in 2.pouch was whitie receipts.

*comfort* guys but what did you except blocking yourself inside megagoodwhite
area? Nothing else then overkill!
And yes - revange for Elaviel came! :P
(Enforcer tells you 'You puke You')

I don't have much sympathy for Rhuka as he has one of the best links in the game and plays from a lab!! Now he whines! Just have a labbie mate re-equip and go on hunting for the slowest linked ppls you can tough guy.

Someone from .nsl used to play Ulrika, great guy and very interesting to talk to,. Not sure what happened to that element of .nsl?

Comforts to Rhuka and Gimilzor...that was a TAD overkill *sarcasm* :O(
But jesus:

a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak
a receipt for a forest green cloak

At least hoard something good if ya gonna hoard:O)
(ok, ok I saw your other receipts :O( )

Khandar and Valkyria were spammin narrates about 3-4 darkies in castle,
so i spammed there to check out and break gate to let em out.
But then group of p(Elestir) came, and i blocked...

Lochdale, what does a link have to do with anything?
You guys are jealous of the labplayers, and so am I..
I used to play at kth, superlink, now im on a modem
and aveage 250ms.. and i think its ok, i alost tried playing
for 3-4 months frmo singapore with 700ms, and gave up..

But that doesnt mean i think anyone should be that badly
overkilled... Thilax is a famous linkless/overkill, so if 2 darkies
charge 2 lgends in good aliged zones, they should be fucking
proclaimed heros.. to fucking few players do that today, most
of them at like Morthe etc...

And i rather fight Rhuka and Gim than people like Morthe with 7 more...

Just read Lochdales comment, so I just HAD to say something
Lochdale, you ALWAYS, ALWAYS whine about ppl who got good links, you make
alot of comments on all the NSLs logs, but I've never heard you say anything good about their kills/deaths and so on, if they kill someone it's: 'who cares,
everyone can rock in pk if they only got a good link' and if they die: 'who cares, i dont got sympathy for ppl with good link'. I mean COME ON, it isn't less lame to enter 8 whities on 2 orcs just because the orcs happen to have a good link.

I got a good link usually too and that does not say you can just kill all Arda without any skill.

I played with bad link too, and sure is a pain in the ass but it does not say you cannot pk at all then.

Nazgum, as in 110% of the cases doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. The only thing that makes sense is the eagle thing. I mean you said you would
not attack AN ELF while A DWARF is lagging? Then you are completely, and I mean
completely lying. No way in hell you'd done that. And Lochdale DOES NOT have
sympathy with someone because he has a GOOD LINK?! I mean, come fucking on.

i dont have a prob with nsl. they're a group of friends that kick ass,
and they have balls.

come to norway and play on the "free internet" c2i.net when night like 9536318015 use this and u get friggin 500-1000 ms link and i was lagging!

I was in overkill group, it was xps group comming from eregion(tbad) to do willow for some ppl, it was too bad for u that u choosed so bad timing for your action. After narrates we just continued to Fornost and entered and ... Btw I saw hiding of tons receipts in fornost so what rhuka posted are prolly some darkie some white receipts (maybe - don't know right counts).

heh, not to start something, but i'd like to hear of a time
a player has ever yelled he is lagged to me and i have not
let him go. You swedes would never know tho, cause you don't
have link problems.

well rhuka only reason i was there was to relevel poor khandar who mobbed
earlier at lord,when u 2 showed up my intension was to fight u 2 where u first
found us, we just needed to finish that damn spirit off first but with khandar
leaving and damn spirit refusing to die i thought it best to leave.. i wasn´t
really worried since i never thought u'd be stoopid enough to block yourself in
with us ... but when i realized that u had i narred for help, narring 3 or four
darkies blocked in castle with me khandar. I ripped when i ran out of moves
cause solo slasher vs orc and bn is kinda easy target. And your damn right it
was soo right to overkill you ... only reason you died was because u got gready
and blocked yourself in with 2 pukes near a puke town. If you wanna whine over
getting killed dont take risks! And nsl loves to overkill .. you know it..i know
it.

*gig* Ulrika was never nsl she is and have always been hb.se!!

..uhh Ginlon? Thilax known overkill / linkless killer??? i never killed
linkless and i almost only group with teolin...what u base that statement on??
Just wondering ?? ..i did myself get overkilled by nesl though ..resently got
blocked in witch with 2 orcs and bn inside and 1 orc guarding outside so noone
could bash thorns..=/

That time at witch, were you alone? It was like 7 of you vs 6 of us around fnost, your group fled, you fled last, and fled into witch. So dont call it an overkill, and after block bn had no mana, i was wounded from the start, So please say you were unlucky instead of overkilled

I was in no group...i was all alone playing around with u guys until i got fled
into witch. And there where noone around..dont you think those 6 other pukes u
talking about would have managed to bash thorns open with only 1 orc outside
if there were ??? I did narrate i was trapped in witch you know.

it is not right. Thilax was playing solo there, so don't blame.

I knew there was a reason I liked Ulrika. Ok here goes. Rhuka et al. with links and lab: 1) Always have friends with them and with lab then always have the temptation to cheat via cross-race info,
2) if i get one of them in a closable I WILL NEVER WIN, they can open/close much faster then me.
3) Lets use a boxing analogy, welterweights (250ms or higher) dont fight heavy wieights (50ms or less), why would I cheer for the big guy in that situation? Link is an issue, and while I am most certainly jealous of a lab I am rarely that impressed. With all the advantages you have you really should win. Christ fighting Rhuka with my link is like asking Tony Adams to mark Marc Overmars.

Ulrika is from the "robot lab", Lochdale.

Ginlon you only have 250ms on modem from sweden? Yick I get that from the states....

Receipt hoarding (wether its puke or minion) is for children.

*nod Niccolo*

I followed that dwarf leader from eregion and was half afk when i found myself
inside that castle with you and lotsa other pukez. I went wimpy so pukes get
more melee, it's all i could do :P. Hmms - but expecting pukes not come, WTF
that you havent meant seriosly? And 5 x 2 or 15 x 2 where's the difference ?

rhuka: why shoudl i give some eq to you when you only go and die...

well well i guess you wont go and die atleast...

oooooohh, what a shame u died
bad BAD pukes

well reeq and remember: watch so you dont get stabbed =)
*irony*

Well fuck you all that think us nsl dont have bad links too, its mostly in school
we got good link. at home we use chello and that sucks donkey d***.
I havent had good link at home for more than a month now, always 50% packetloss
or more. just ask vargas he has experienced it.

ooh, lets go to old fornost and block us in with 2 pukes and when we start to win we really really shouldent expect reinforcements!
jävla äggskallar! hur fan kan ni inte tro att ni ska bli överdödade när ni är 3 meter från deras stad?! mkt å gråta över.
det är ju inte fel på hela nsl, men vissa av er är ju fan helt jävla mongo.

näe nu ska jag sova.

sorry for the comment mostly was in swedish but i dont fucking care about you assholes liveing in other countries

nod self!

LAUGH

You fucking rock man !!!

lol

you all are so stupid *comf* lochdale , i remember you ALWAYS spamming about how people who played this game had no lives, and now your arguement is "all people with good links suck" get real, it is possible to fight someone with a better link than you 1v1, its all about spam! and ulrika was not nsl damnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I seem to bring out the best in people. Actually my "argument" has been expanded rather than altered. I do not like .nsl because they brag about how hard they are (See the title of this log). My point is, with all their advantages they really ought to be killing all and should show a little class. AS the americans say after you score a touch down "act like you have been there before".

Hmm...when did you fight a labbie 1 on 1, Ethar? Lochdale's point was that they have fast links AND travel in groups. Therefore, fighting 1 on 1 doesn't contradict his theory. It's a separate idea.

Hehe, Khandar plays tons of lowbie pukes who spambegs legends for legend eq. He doesn't bother leveling them past 15, all he seems to care about is eq. What an idiot.

tell me your name and ill argue with you all you want

Khandar you moron stop sucking up to those orcs. They didnt SPARE YOU,
they were busy chasing down the elf.
Whether or not they would have let you live if your friends had shown
up YOU WILL NEVER KNOW

Just wanted to say that I was not part of the big group. I came to save Khandar since he was lagging. I broke gate so they could come out.. and then I saw Itil coming, so I went in instead... And when I chased around after you, all the other whities had arrived in the meantime.
*comforts on you dying* it was kinda of lame, I will agree to that... but when you go fnost to pk, you must keep in your minds to expect such stunts from whities... the same as we whities do when we try to come to noc or warrens... *shrug*
Ah well.. better luck next time.

Were we 2 or 3-4? Fucking moron.

bah i play with 500+ all the time :D, now thats a link

Well, you claim you have never killed linkless, well.. maybe you are right, but i remember loosing link in ruined chappel (gway) one, and when i reconnected 15 minutes later, you, theolin and 4 others had blocked me in, and stood there waiting for me reconecting. If that isnt the same as linklesskilling, then i dont know what is. I guess a fullset was worth it eh ?

ehum..*comf* on overkill, but did u really excpect to live through that??
Mb i was kinda harsh when u logged ainur to whine some but i was naked sitting
fornost well ...kinda gets you pissed since its soo cold to be naked =).
*Comf* igen din lilla hoardare =))

Lochdale, Ulrika played from hb.se

Shapeshifter, we never stood there and waited for you too reconnect, we got a tell from a guy who said an orc had entered ruined chapel. If you're stupid enough to go behind a closable when you've recently fought pukes, suit yourself. Spam s of morthan and cut link instead, hardons don't go there, and we don't kill people with flag (Unless they've cut for obvious reasons, like blocked in with 5 people).

Niccolo, all modem links are slow, no matter where u play from. i get 250-400 ms
when i play on modem from my parents house. In sweden. With that comes a great
packet loss too.

Lochdale lochdale, you must be one of those less fortunate guys when it comes to
brain capacity. Your babbeling about links makes no sense what so ever. I'm also
sick and tired of listening to your talk about how you hate labbies for this and
and that. It's like saying you hate jews, Dutchmen or carpenters. However, you
can easily hide your brain disablement by simply not expressig yourself in these
matters. But then again, maybe i'm wrong, maybe you just still have a few years
to grow up and mature in.

Rhuka is only trying to show off by collecting those receipts. He thinks -if i
die with all these receipts and rings, ppl will think i'm smashing guy.
Why else would he show them in the log? :)

PS. I think i will try to fit all that into a sable to see if it actually fits
or if he copy pasted some to make it look even more. ;)

Lochdale laddo, you getting confused. Tony would outdo Overmars by using his brain and not relyin on his speed. He'd use his experience and positioning to outdo the greater pace of his Dutch counterpart.
Read: Links make a difference, but they are not the be all and end all of a player's knowledge, skill and ability. Do not make yerself look so green, both in envy and naivity, by suggesting that players with links are good only because of that speed; nor do I think it's wise to imply (and often it is implication only) that these players deserve to die because they have decent links - that is rather foolish. You're a bright kid, sometimes, but don't be so envious as to believe that a link maketh the player. It helps - often a great help - but it's only part of the whole picture. Remember, I warlorded with a 500ms link. It was those pesky notracks that helped bridge the gap; and the fact that I was promoted from Bree legend (sorry lad, you still the epitomy of one) to warrens legend (there ain't much difference), and a slightly better than shite understanding of PK. Link wasn't a factor.
(Suffice to say, I'll probably never warlord again and am probably a worse player now than I was 3 months ago. Which is some going)

Erk! Long comment! Apol.

A. I hadnt seen any fuckings puke for hours.
B. I never planned to do anything but a fast check if candle loaded.
C. That fuckings moron hobbit whoever that was found it neccesarry to call for 5 ppl backup.
D. Imagine how happy i was when i came back some time later and found myself blocked inn vs all you guys.
E. Do you think i am so fuckings stupid that i would go inside there and rest for 15 minutes if i had been fighting 5 pukes?
But hell, i dont say that i dont like you or something like that. My point was simply to point out that ginlon was right about thilax.
I was pissed then, its fine now :)

Oh, btw, since Overmars plays left and Tony central, it wouldn't happen. Your knowledge of football is uninspiring :P Your comparison should've been Anelka vs Adams. But then, Tony spanked him into a lil corner vs France, so I guess your point would've been lost... (not that it was found in the first place)

Well, I seem too remember seeing you someplace....

Bah, musta been another time. Well, don't cut link behind closables anyway ;)

Jocke: I think you can fit an unlimited number (almost) of receipts in a sable. Nazgum hade some 200+ when he ript.

Hahahaha Tony adams, can anyone find a single player that suck more then him
? all he can do is whine about that the great alan shouldent wear the C in England.
and those arsenal sucks even more. i mean they could start play in the french leauge.
well you all suck! i rock! tho its nothing you can do about it, comf!

Comf on overkill, but... what did you expect? If you enter area where usually
whitie midbies exp - be prepared to overkill. Low/mid level don't have skill/
power to kill you 2 vs 2 - so only what they can is gather group, call legend
backup and overkill.
Let our newbies exp in safe, or be read for overkill! *grin*
Btw Rhuka did VERY right think hoarding puke receipts. Now this stuff is
unreceipted, some newbies who was lucky on flipping coin own legend weapons and
armours - means darkies will soon have this stuff back NON-RECEIPTED. And btw
i wanna know who was these morons who hid darkie receipts in Fnost?

Thilax you were shitloads + rangers at witch when I (Vanimelde), Vridush and
Gauruk killed you. _And_ you autofollowed me inside because there was only
rangers outside and neither of us fought you. Maybe you weren't with the zillion
of other pukes (3 or 4) but heck we fought 3 vs 5.

And come on, this overkill on these two dudes was damn silly. I would have enterd
with a caster/warrior, not with 2475658 sidekicks.
Learn from what NAin have done lately - he have entered closable areas with group
as big as the *enemies*. Hell if you think overkilling is fun don't whine.

Sorry 'bout this long message. P.S Don't say we overkill - around Bree we move in
hoards. ;) DS

i dont know why im getting flamed for narrating it ? that we needed help one legend and one soon to be hero closed in with 2 darkie legends ? we where dead for sure and my link sucked totaly i was linkless some to. i did never mean for 1840281 pukes to show up, comf on death tho. my first pk and i dont trap anyway.

Dear Fredde

You are a moron, an imbecile and I pity you.
The only thing you rock at is futile comments.
Tony is captain, by the way. To the best of my knowledge, there were no complaints back in 96, or when he wasn't from 97 thru Euro 2000, when Tony was reinstated to universal approval (except you, but your complete lack of understanding of the beautiful game reduces your opinions to the 'ignore and/or despise' category).
Your previous comments about me hold no mustard - when you come to me in Mume and show me that you are half as bright as even dear ol' Lochdale, I will take note. Then I shall gut you.
I hope this all makes sense. Should you fail to grasp what I'm on about, I suggest a visit to Grunge, who shall arrange a reverse-lobotomy.

Yours, as ever

Relim

Of course, holding mustard and cutting mustard are the same thing. Really.

As ppl already said, there were narrates about darkies in old fornost.
I asked how many and was told 4. We were some 4-5 too and we didn't know
how many whities were around there so you can hardly accuse us of planned
overkill. Some other whities joined us before we entered the castle. Itil
blocked it and you saw the outcome.

One thing really surprised me and that is Rhuka entering closable/blockable
whitie zone without plan for case he gets ambushed. Also would expect him to
get at least one twisted rock fragment, with all the eq he had.

Nice of you to carry whitie receipts, wonder how much cash did it cost you on
rent, would expect this hoarding of puke receipts from BN, but not from an orc.

Also wonder why didnt you corrupt those 5 or 6 sapphire rings you had. Well at
least you made some ppl happy.

Wow, lots to respond to.
Relim: Tony Adams is a Donkey. Thats it. To compare him to an Overmars or an Anelka borders on the deranged. Further, Kevin Kegan is a whingy moron. Adams could not catch a cold and any sign of skill of the opponents part will have Adams and Keown literally assaulting the other player. Its a shame as otherwise Arsenal play some attacking football.
Links: I hate doing anything at a disadvantage. I don't practice that way and I do not like to play that way. I never said that link is the end all and be all (skill, of course, is vital) but take a 'B' player v. a 'B' player and the better linked player will win. There is a profound advantage in playing in a Swedish lab and I really find the smugness distasteful. Lastly, Jocke I never got personal or questioned anyones intellectual capacity. I doubt you are leading us into space. I am entitled to my opinion and if don't like it then respond intelligently. I think we are all a little less when these things become personal.

*a dwarf* yells "lag"

Cmon, nsl don't give a shit about lag, in fact, they thrive on others
having it so they can reconnect to norsunet quicker and whack you.
And then they brag about it.

read a few more comments, but spammed past the last of em,
pThilax has always been friendly even if teolin is a robotperson, don't judge the whole from the part.
250ms link in sweden has how many routers to nordunet? maybe 5? I think my line goes thru at least 20 links
and even if it is 250ms on a good day, the capacity to linkfart is a bit more than you might imagine.

There is no such thing as overkill, i am sure khandar/elf was narrating and ppl gathered outside the gate, whoever had the ability to
break/block arrived at such time as a large group had gathered (since we all know pukes are slow to organize).

Nazgum is correct about those reciepts....keep on hoarding

Lad, your pure ignorance confuses and depresses me. Trying to draw a direct comparison between Overmars and Adams is like drawing one between Ronaldo and Keane. All do different, effective jobs. You go ahead with your blind ignorance - you truly are letting your side down.
I thought you were intelligent. Now I see you are actually quite blinkered, and just a tad bitter - you always complain when the odds are against you? Ever figure that brains (skill) can beat brawn (speed)? Or are you just gonna whine when it's not an equal 50-50? You calling it a lose before you even try. Must be the Irish in you.

No, the Irish just learned that to fight the brits we had to fight them at our own time and place, never in a one-on-one battle as there was always so many more of them that we would lose. Thats why we beat them..once Ireland was free well we know what happened to the rest of the colonies now don't we.

I used Overmars as an example because they both played for Arsenal (Overmars is gone though) and they were indicative of the contrasting styles of football: Adams-brutal, slow and without vision Overmars-fast, fluent with the ability to turn a game. The Arsenal back four are slower then Christmas, they make a mockery of the type of game Wenger is trying to install at Highbury...goen are the days when Alan Smith led the attack and Perry Groves was an up-and-comer. The English game is gone and buried, the sooner relics like Adams are consigned to the dustbin the better.

I will add, Shearer will be missed at Intl. level..class player, could have been another Linekar but he just wasn't jammy enough.

How bout them Wildcats?

Atleast, someone flame me back for all the stupid comments i have made for the past 6 months, tho Tony Adams suck, he isent even near our Alan Shearer. Arsenal suck more then Man utd, and Robson is the man!
and i still think u cant play nothing else then stabberwhore, i mean oregon dies all the time, iam no good player but still i can play other things then stabberwhore, so you relaly should stop calling darkagnel a wuss and start play a real class..

some typeos there but hey iam kinda drunk so.....

Isn't it lovely? Grunge is a retard.

Lochdale, lad, give it up. Your knowledge of football is depressingly poor. Nuff said.
Fredde, you evidently don't know who else I play (though, to be fair, only a handful do). And though I may revel in playing a stabberwhore, at least I made some sort of impression somewhere along the line. :>

Judge all of nsl from one person, don't do the same about the robotlab (they
are all nice rl!), you're so smart Grunge.

Besides you weren't linkless, Fingeror was and I tried to kill him! ;)

Nice use of a declarative sentace to end an argument. My knowledge of the game far exceeds yours. I actually played it.

Doh! last comment was to Relim in reference to our argument about why the english national team is so awful.

I know that noone will read this but I have to get my agressions out on those fucking newbise posting comments. Childish to hoard eq? Well, since nothing else is fun what should I do? And Thorzor or whatever you are called, of course I die when I do stuff like that? I mean, I often trap with 1-2 buddies, died several of those times, though pukes died right after, same goes with Vridush. But we sure as hell doesnt sit on our fat asses in warrens, complaining about lag. AND our lab lags, I lag at home, I dont always have good link, bla bla. Ive died linkless several times, and alot of my lab has done the same. So I just want to say: Stop flaming people who does play the game for fun.

There you go assuming again, Lochdale. Your assumptions display your blinkers, your 'i'm better than you because...' attitude a sense of massive insecurity. This argument can run and run - but, unfortuntely, the result, that of less respect due to your blind, nonsensical, shallow comments, a given.

Fine. Answer me this, by mume mail to save bandwith, why can't the English progress to the final stages of a real competition or are they now content to fight the good (but losing) fight? I think it is because the days of the hard english game are gone and they either adapt or continue to be also rans.

Lochdale, naive response to naive posts. I respond intelligently to anyone talking
so much bullshit.

Dying is a part of the game. Some ppl have a very hard time dealing with that. If
ypu get blocked in and killed or killed in a very hostile area, it's your own fault.
I can't recall i ever died cause it was not my own fault. (even though i might have
thought so when it actually hapend.) If i enter olf fornost for several minutes,
i must count in the possibility to be blocked in and be overkilled. If i hear that
there are several enemies close by, i might consider moving my exping to elsewhere.
Just use your brains and you might live a lot longer.

*chuckle* Probably put better than my ramblings, but Jocke was right on.
Lochdale, regarding football, it's arguable that Brazil aren't exactly 'fighting the good fight' at the moment (they are struggling to even qualify for the World Cup 2002). I don't presume that England are that good at football - but that's hardly the fault of one man, nor necessairly demonstrative of the quality of Premiership/individual football (Holland, for all their brilliance, haven't won anything for 12 years, Argentina for 14, Italy for 18, Spain for 36, despite all of these countries boasting, at times, the very finest players in the world) - English teams are starting to make real impact on European football again [2 finals in 2 seasons, one won, one lost on pens], both the teams leading the foray with an excellent balance of both English and overseas players(and, if I recall correctly, with Adams as captain, England made their best progress for 30 years in a competition...). Your comments about Adams are 8 years out of date, simple as that. And I'm sure you play the game - I coach 7-11 year olds on Saturday mornings from the local school as well as playing in goal for a local team most Sundays - but I'm doubly sure that neither of us could touch Adam's knowledge, power or reading of the game. But then, very few can.

All of those teams have made significant advances in all of the major tournaments: Italy 94 final Euro 200 final, Holland knoced out of cup by eventual winners in 94 and runners-up in 98. England were shown up in this European Cup, in the 1992 European Cup and on there home soil where only a magnificent display by Paul Ince (one of the few) allowed to get to penalties against a weaker then usual German side. England's display in Euro 2000 was a disgrace and the reality is that they are no longer a football superpower. IMO, Adams is indicative of the old hoof and run style of play which will always be found out on the big stage. Kudos on the coaching, I coach under-14's here (the Americans are getting better and they are bigger and faster then the average Irish or English kid).
Jocke: You are merely reiterating a point of view from a posistion of power (i.e. fast link). Its as valid (or invalid) as my complaints about labs/links from my point of view. I do object, however, to the personalizing of your comments particularly as I discovered you also played a BN who was demoted for cheating. I lost some a lot of time for you there mate.