Doublestandardalert!

Its people like you that ruins mume Nazgum...
Some people in my group got posion killed today,
and a few got trapped.. so i tried to do a few mobs
to re-eq them... i never made any serious effort of
hunting you.. as the stupid fuck i am, i thought you
would be a cool guy... but you are just a lame Smrtihlav wannabe..

I fight lotsa solo, aswell with with 2... But when i do mobs, yes
I need a group...


*shrug*

Gods wouldnt let me die to level 1, but ill arrange that later..
Im not angry, im bitter thou.. bitter because I love mume...
I love mume, as it were... mume of today, is players like
Smrtihlav, Rogon and Nazgum overkilling.. any players with
skill, and the will to fight well is being hunted away...

I need to work on my rl anyway... ill surely mud more, but
not on mume.. not untill the management do something
about players like that.. untill then ill keep looking for some
game where skill is the main factor...

Ginlon/Zorek /Drokk/Wert etc

You win some you lose some! Wish I had been on! woulda been nice pk for level 1 since sunrip!

Ginlon, you may be high level, but you talk out of yer asshole....nazgum seems to hold some strange sort of knight of solmamnia code of honor type of shit, he onlly wants to play as fair as the playing field will allow hime to be when he is as a darkie....I'm not a great player at all..., but i know what i see...nazgum is one of the last people u should be criting on.... at least w/us trolllies....
lick my asshole too... puke...8)

"'say he does rock, thats why u died, no use denying it, ' ETC "

Actually Glamduril, the only reason we died is because the owner of your heart and soul decided to bring in 13 other asslickers to sit there with him. So dont talk out of your nose, because you're really just spewing a whole lot of shit, and making yourself sound rather fucking stupid.

And as for you Nerf, who the fuck are you? Nazgum holds some CODE OF HONOR? Yeah, he has this thing encoded into his brain (?) that orders him to fill a quota of traps per day, right? Is why he trapped as his bn earlier, and was trying to fool around with us for some 45 mins - 1 hr rl after that? Come on - i mean i was stupid, i laughed it off coz i read that log where Naz tracked that group all the way up to noc, and i said 'Hey, maybe he DOES have some balls, continually charging the group like that'..but..*shrug* Guess we learn something new every day right? :) Nazgum is...or WAS...a fucking GOOD player, and he didnt even risk 1% chance of death today because we were out in the open, and we never even bothered pushing the traps or any of that shit. If anything, he was always sitting there before we were, and WE would run into HIM, and not the other way around. Beats me why i was so stupid as to not see that.

It's people like him and people like you who play and talk outta your assholes that really need to get a dunking in soap water and hung out to dry.

Im not talking from my levels.. im talking
from my 7 years on mume, and from my 9-10
diffrent chars on warlords... AND as one of
the better pkers mume have had...

Nazgum traps a lot.. earlier today he trapped as Mabel, his bn..
I wont complain about that one, since we were a lot hunting
poor ol Nacs...

Ive taken more risks as Ginlon than you've seen pkfights..
I used to charge caved inn 2-3 times a day.. both solo
and with groups.. and it was fun, i died, but i had FUN...

Thats the keyword, fun, i died 3 times to Mammoth
at GC... lost better eq than most of you have seen..
After that fight, i was happy.. i died, but I had fun...

This wasnt fun, at all... not even a little bit..

Oh poor poor Ginlon and tia, and their superequipped level 40+ pukes, I feel so sorry for you dying to a trap. Ginlon does it ever occur to you that traps happen? Get over it, you arent a bad player, but why the hell do you whine like a sweedish meatball when you die, and act like you've never attacked suntrapped trolls with 3:1 numbers, or attacked solo lowbie orcs and trolls, instakilling them with your hugegroups? You would think someone who is an accomplished player would take a taste of their own medicine more easily.

maybe to you i sound rather stupid, cause what i said wasn't you wanted to hear, and the prospect of YOUR heart and soul not being the rockinest player on mume doesn't appeal to you. I wasn't about to grovel down to either of you just because you died in a (once you think about it) obvious trap, and are pissed at pNazgum, and when i said Naz rocked! ohh goddamn you Glam! you suck his wang just because he used common sense and trapped us and kicked the shit out of us! you guys are being so goddamn immature about this being all pissed off at me just because you died and cris died and everything is going to hell just because you lost a bunch of text eq and you lost a text fight. I rambling so now yes i do look rather fucking stupid
sheesh

Actually you look VERY fucking stupid

People who take things to heart from other people they don't even know and judge people based on their comments about other people don't really have that good judgement.. so i'll excuse you from that;)
(plus it may be that time of the month)
*flee*

No, not the greatest whiner of all time, pls dont quit. pls! who else is going to spamm narr that rogon sucks and all he does is trapp and bla bla bla. i mean Still norsu have been #1 on warlord for a very long time, just dragoth came up and took the title but got linkless killed, so now he is still warlord. and dia still has one long way up to number one. so ginlon pls cut the fuckin crap! your a good player but you whine almost everytime, so what if a textbased game is unfair. who cares?! i mean get a life, if mume is that important for you that you like feel a great depression after you die, stop play, its for your own best.

I wonder who Fredde is?

I dont care if you guys love or hate me...
Those whose oppinion i care about, likes me...
Its just a game, of course... mume rocks..
Mume is still the best MUD ever...
Ive had a lot of fun.. but i dont have as fun anymore..

Its a mix of changes on mume, changes in players.. and
that I have played to much.. i have just been addicted
for way to long, ive let my rl suffer, and since I dont
have much fun anymore, its time to move on...

I dont get the rush I used in pk, i dont find the fun
fights I used to... and even I overkill in some desprerate
attempt of getting anywhere...

Lotsa people out there I love, and have had lotsa fun with..

I hope Rogon and those will be sitebanned, so the rest
of you might taste what mume used to be...

Take care all...
Good killing, and lotsa fun!

Hmms you were overkilled. That happens. I overkilled 100x and died overkilled 100x
Nothing so serious to make you quit game.

Dear Chris, make a BN. (I think it was p(ginlon) real name, might be wrong thou)
Apart from poisoners it is tons fun.
Since I made Focus I have been having the best times. Reeq is easy -
you can get to fighting condition in 20 minutes. Fighting condition in my brain means that you can DO damage and MOVE around.

You never know, if the 3-4 tracks leading into a xp-place is Glaran or
Isolde leading a legend-3-pack or true midlevels doing Barbaras or sewers. :)

You never know to whom you die to today - is it hardons and a level 3, or a poisoner. (or a linkfart, which isnt that much fun)

It is easy to ignore players you dont wanna fight as a BN (atleast I ignore all the statistically succesful players, cause the chance of getting a kill is 0.1%).

Only malus of playing a BN is that you have depression after dying. If there wasnt depression, I would try berserker things more often. ATM I only do them, if playing time is up, or the possible outcome could be realfun. During my BN career I have been pissed twice :
1) when I died from full-condition to hardons, because I couldnt flee in right direction;
2) when I quaked Grymsh to dead accidentally.

So, my suggestion is: SPAMDIE ALL CHARS TO LEVEL 1 and make a bn, called...hmm...Hocus? Pocus? :)

Oh, Ginlon you are spam whiner. Its very funny to listen narrates of you about how Smrtihlav and Norsu are fucking overkillers. And now you added Nazgum on your whining list. Do you know what is your problem? Envy, because all these players are much better than you so it makes you whine. End.

Well, when me and Grand were locked in DT because of yellow ball in sky, Ginlon only entered with 6 smelly pukes. He later told me there was 11 around. Really brave of Ginlon. Btw we had a lot of lowbies too. But was nice fight and we killed 2 of them (Tia and Khaylos). Ginlon killed all the rest except me and Grand. Ginlon doesnt overkill if he can help it, and I think nazgum knows that.

so Ginlon entered with 5 for Nazgum? and he bitching about overkill?
i remember year or 2 ago he used to move always in group 6+ , after that
he suddenly decided to solo pk , but well nothing changed , he only talked
about solo pk and how overkilling is lame , twice overkilled Mocho linkless in group of 5 , didn't listen
to yells that i'm linkless and said after that it was too fast etc

i think its cool we have fair and cool solo players as Ginlon , who can fight
lame trappers as me or Nazgum

Not often you see solo players nowadays.
I remember the days when all was solo and you could meet a same level enemy
(could be from 10 to 30) who knew as much as you did.
Nowadays solo players who you can meet is as i can see it:
Sometimes Ginlon, always Drengist, often Dragoth,always scouts(not strange:))
often Draaz, Muck and some others. Not many if you think about how many it was
long ago.

Wow, brave sir ginlon is really boasting, "one of the best pkillers mume ever had", claiming he has more skill than rogon,smrtihlav or nazgum (who are good players even if they play in a way most opponents think is lame). Supermudder brave Sir Ginlon the Crybaby would probably be more comfortable if the management turned mume into a dating-mud? I guess that would eliminate the problem of hugegrouping and trapping, even if the world is becoming a more cruel and decadent place. And Ginlon would definitely get more room to use his "skills", eh?

nice

Nazgum I really hope your buddy that was grouped with Ginlon didnt tell you that they were heading bbt again etc so you could set him up. That would definitely not be cool, the supreme overkill was bad enough.

Hehe you guys are so funny. :)
There are still some of us who solo pk. In fact, i think most of us fight solo
or in small groups. Some of you guys like to trap a lot though, and that is
tend to piss ppl off cause it's often a sertain death if you fall for the trap.
However with some brains you can usually avoid all traps, or get out of the
trap in time if you hapend to enter it. But trapping is NOT the ONLY way to get
kills. Try and you'll be supriced.

I have come to know Ginlon quite well over the years, and i know for fact that
always get insanely angry when he dies in a way that he feel is unfair, or when
he fuck up himself. I can't remember how many times he said he would spam die
his characters to level 1. And somtimes did it. Give the guy a rest and let
him come back when he feel he is ready. *hug Ginlon*

Hmm fredde i think Norsu is "no1 warlord" only cause the list is split into a
whitie and a darkie list. I actually think it was quite long ago that Norsu had
the no1 spot. And he didn't have the no1 spot for a very long time either.

Ginlon... I liked you before and i still like ya. You just need to stop whining about deaths and being a bit of a hypocrite. I hear you always preach that you NEVER hugegroup anymore and then i log on last night and you storming warrens leading 6. I have also grouped with you as puke and we try the ever so fun BBT trap when you enter with 3-4 and have about 4 more waiting outside for when darkies storm. You are a good player and a nice guy and i do mean that, but if all of us whined about the injustices of Mume we would need a flame board every 3 rooms.

Yes its pretty silly that you are crying about dying in overkill Ginlon. It
happens to us all. Remember 2 nights ago when you had man lure 2-3 of us
midlevels into cellar then you came down with your 5-6 followers and blocked
cask on us? So really, stop the fucking crying.

yall talk about good pkillers, and only one person mentioned
a good pkiller outta the whole list, Drengist. Everyone else
including me sucks, but drengist can kick some major major
ass.

Actually i dont agree with you ppl there, everytime i see Drengist around, Mabel is always there too with some other darkies lurking in the shadows with him somewhere. If you want good players, i'll say ppl like Focus and Girando - excluding the time when Girando was permagrouped with Smrtihlav of course. :P Most bns are just portalwhores (Moonglum, now even Asmodeus, altho he honestly rocks as orc), but those are 2 i can say i admire.

And tindomerel..is that honestly the only way you can get a date, if mume was made into a dating mud? *comf* Or is that the reason why you sit and idle all day, hoping to get another bree legend to start flirting with you?

You really didn't get it, did you?

*lol*

I have to agree with Nazgum in one poiton.. I think Drengist
is a good player..

Oh.. and yes I whine.. and I get angry...
But only when i die lame, like when I died
to Mammoth group at gc, i didnt whine..
I banged my head in the wall cause I was stupid...
But i had fun, and if i die while having fun, well, at least I had fun :)

Tindomerel, well, datemud?
Not really, but yes, I've been lucky to through mume meet
a girl i later feel in love with rl...and i don't feel ashamed of that..

Tia, all i hearing from you and Ginlon is all these players who you think suck/have no skill. Tell us, what makes this so? For all of these players you mentioned sucking (Norsu, Nazgum, Smrtihlav) I could easily argue are good players. They have good (those three are at least in the top 15) map knowledge on Arda, they know the habits of their victims, they put on good chases, they are powerful characters (eg. poisoning smiter - Norsu, smiting-backstabbing thief - Nazgum, awesome buffer - Smrtihlav), they know when a trap is springing up (when is that last time you saw any of THEM die in a trap that was planned), and they are nice guys if you get to know them. Now that i have put up my arguments, let us see yours. I can assure you they are not perfect, but you can't argue that they rock!

Ginlon always overkills me and I never whine about that. If you overkill yourself then shutup =P

I think all three of those are good pkers....
I think its a shame they have no honour...

And i think you Malak, is a cheap whore that would
sell yourself out fully for a cheap kill... so go suck my hairy?

Ginlon, you dont classify spam-doing BBT with Nazgum hanging around
as "stupid"? Especially when he is labelled a "trapper" I think it
was pretty silly to chase him in...so maybe you should install some
paddingon that wall...

Duvel, any troll with selfrespect have fun when whiteys raid
warrens.. i know i loved it as Wert, sure i died, but trolls are
made to fight, and die...

If you wanna be a eq-whore, play orc... yes, overkills happens
more in warrens than anywhere else.. because many whiteys
usually needed... 5 ologs in warrens, is as strong as 10 at ford...
Ginlon had 130ob on agg in warrens, a Olog 190....

Ginlon got 368hp, a olog almost 600...

Hell yes.. among other players Drengist IS a good player butt!!
Can any1 explain why he's so silent?
hum hum or is it just me he ignores *sulk*
I know i can piss ppl off sometimes.. but hey i'm still a teen;( (hint-pimples)
hihihi

I thought it was more than one?

Maybe now somebody else then ginlon will have the opportunity to tryout
one of the three glowswords availible in mume.

Malak - I know Nazgum, and I know Luke, and yeah i agree they're nice guys. The couple of times i've interacted (im not even gonna say 'talk' here because it'd be such a hypocrisy) with Rogon, it totally convinces me he's not even worth my time trying. Yes, they're powerful chars, I agree with that. Ginlon and i talked bout Smrt one day, he said fighting him is as bad as fighting ginlon coz of his def, so i really dont see the need to walk around with 4 others with poison on his morgul blade? The same with Norsu - he's a good player, so why does he have to have those perma asskissers trailing behind him? Yesterday Ginlon/Tia/Celorfilas were xping, we ran into Melko at olog..two seconds late Stinger/Dresden/Maal/Kovie enter. (I honestly dont know how Maal could later tell me they were in Dunlands and 'spammed' up, 200 rooms in 1 round of fighting with olog? Damn i gotta start playing with Stinger too if he can do that). Whities pretty much got broken up immediately, Maal went kamikaze on me when i was bad/exhausted near country path coz i tried doing the whole over-water shit..(didnt work)..first time in my life i ever did a cha wimpy 0. Maal died, i was resting mps/hps, then Stinger enters and kills me in 2 hits. I dunno what my point is in just blabbing that entire story but i think im trying to say solo fight (Maal, then Stinger for abt 1 second) was fun, and if Stinger is as good of a player as we've seen him capable of being, then why doesnt he go kamikaze a bit too? Everyone will probably have a lot more fun that way. Same goes with Smrtihlav and Nazgum - old forest traps are getting boooooooooooring.
But like Ginlon says..guess we should be flattered that some poor portalwhore bn was wasting his mana on us for 2 hours portalling a bunch of stinky trollies around. :P

Goretongue - I dont classify doing BBT with Nazgum around as stupid, i classify thinking he was a decent player as stupid. A lot of ppl just gave me this 'well it's naz' thing, that does say a fair bit about MY common sense. Guess all those logs of him being 'ballsy' can be discredited as a load of horseshit if he was trying to play the great valiant orc for 2 hrs (pity we fell for it), only to get fucked in the ass that way by someone everyone in the group has..or had...a lot of respect for.

Tindomerel, tell me something? I sure as hell don't know you, and I dont think i want to if all that comes out of your mouth is rude shit, but pray tell - what's your point in dragging RL into this? Yeah, sure, Ginlon and I met through a text game, sorry if that's lame in your books, but im happy, he's happy, and it makes it all good in my books. People like you who just made comments sharpened to pierce and hurt like that REALLY used to get to me, you wont believe how much i used to get upset over it (like i should care about people on the other side of the universe like you whom i'll never see or talk to), but now i honestly can't give a flying fuck. So you know what, hon? Sling shit all you want, criticize til you're blue in the face, and PLEASE pour ALL your energy into trying to embarass us, because we do NOT give a damn, and you're just making yourself look like a PMSing immature bitch.

Yeah, it is just the 'to know someone' - noone writes a 'fuckyou-comment' about
players they know and honor. In the other case most people just bitch around and
bitch around and bitch around. All of the ppl named above (Ginlon, Naz, Rogon,
Smrt, Tindo ...) are worth knowing and outstanding - if not - others wouldn't
follow them. I am not licking their asses here: all know what they are doing and
all care about their group members and fellows which is the quality I rate people
with. How they act in pk is secondary eventhough it might be annoying sometimes :>

longest comment in history goes to Tia.

Ginlon (and now prolly Tia) take this "game" way too seriously,
getting upset for several hours over a video game is not worth
it. I've done it before, and it's why i always wish to "quit"
mume as ginlon does. But lately i play mume less and in shorter
'spurts' and have more of a 'real life' and i like mume more.

Just need to keep the difference between "a game where the
object is to slay another player" where you might slay or
be slain aside from your real life feelings.

I used to think Ginlon was a pretty cool guy, but he always
goes haywire when he dies. He cannot handle it and i do not
think he should play this game. He's probably still fuming
about losing this 'game' nearly a day ago now, since he continues
to comment on this log.

It's a game, i'm on my way to realising it, play it for fun.

Thanks, was aiming for that. ^.^

Yeah, play for fun for yourself and ruin it for everyone else right? That's my entire point. *shrug*

I love you Ginlon!

Ginlon stop sucking your own cock and tell us about how brave noble and cool it is to be 5 and chase one orc and trying to make him flee into closeables?

To be fair, they were not chasing nazgum around
HOWEVER, they did follow him into bbt after like an hour
or him hanging around them. which was not the smartest
thing to do, and NULLIFIES any whines from them.
EOF

Unknown stop being a dick and show your name? ;)

Ginlon says 'im spamdying to level 1 now'

*siiiiiiiiiiiigh*

Ginlon says 'im spamdying to level 1 now'

*sigh*

U ppl writeing a book or what? :)

well they actually did chase me some, just didn't put that much
effort into it. THey chased me around ford some, then they chased
me to dt door about 3 times, and tried to trap me tangle then stonecrack
then tangle again.

Tia what the fuck are you talking about? We tracked you from ford, 3 horses. We didnt know who it was, and melko didnt narrate anything, i didnt even SEE melko.

And wether i'm a good bad or whatever player, is it really interesting for anyone what your opinion might be? Only way you say someone is a good player is if ginlon told you that is so. Try to get to know some people without ginlon present, try grouping with someone else but ginlon - and maybe you'll start beeing more than just his echo.

And I dont really mean to offend anyone, but i really think you should have some experiences about what you're raising opinions on. You're pretty much like glorf saying how overpowered trolls are even tho he never had any.

Buddy, i would have to wait in line with all your mume gf's to suck your 'hairy'

Wow there's alot of asssucking going on here.

Actually Stinger, I disagree with Ginlon's opinion of who's good and who isnt way more than you know (at least he and i agree on one thing about you), and vice versa.

Yesterday i had first mentionable solo pk with a higher-than-level-15 darkie, and i was so fuckin' high on that like you couldnt believe..actually so much so that the fact that i died to you (again) didnt even matter. Bah i dunno what my point is here, the fight pretty much went out of me with that last long comment so im ending this one.

Malak - comment about Tindomerel dragging RL into this applies to you too.

The only ass sucking going on here is your face in Elana
Produnova's lovely little snatch
*drooooooool*

Hey, he started it! Just cuz i suck 'hairy' irl doesn't mean i want to suck HIS! *that is a joke btw*
Anyhoo, i know what you are talking about when you mention the high you get off a nice pk like that.
It was Mabel, Hannibal, Melko, and I (each solo) fighting Amdir, Mumma, and Barret between lb and ford. Barret finally died after about 1/2 hour of trying to escape us. Was just rocking to finally wear someone down and have them die like that. Cudos go out to the three pukes for making it extremely difficult as well. I swear Barret must have 500+moves and 500+hps =p as he took ALOT of damage but still lasted that long. I woulda posted the log, but it would have taken a LOoooooooooooooooooooong time to read...

I have to say that this game is tearing up some really cool old players from here. I should have taken
the advice of many old players who left along time ago. They knew where this mud was going, and left before
they experienced it. Don't get me wrong; trapping and huge groups are the way to survive. All of the huge
group players survive, period. They have learned to develop and adapt to the game's new surroundings; Mume7.
I just don't like it. It's not fun, it's boring, and it's not challenging. That's why I get pissed off at
some players here. The problem, as I see it, is I'm too agressive here. If you know I'm playing, you'll know
I'll probably enter a closeable area and fight because I can't stand to sit around and wait for an opponent to
come my way. Anyways, I'm stepping off my high horse and ending with this comment: those who are tired of this
game, quit. It's hard, but seriously do it. If you don't have your "clique" or "lab group" to survive, all you'll
ever be is cannon fodder and a "wp" magnet. UNLESS, you have a REALLY good link, or you avoid pk all together and
live your life as a hobbit farmer. Take care Mume, and, as I posted earlier, I'm attempting yet another
quit attempt! I think I should change my ISP and email address or leave quietly because everytime I leave
I get a flood of emails to come back ;-) This is a game, and nothing more, nothing less. It WAS fun, but
it seems to me as more "work" than "fun." This is the LAST and FINAL draw. See ya on next week? HEHE.

*tickle Malak*
Actually fact that it was nice pk + my first mentionable one made it all the better. Bah post the log anyway, there's enough BS up on this site, at least something fair will be a refreshing change.

ROTFL! Ginlon you bigshit whiner! TWICE you brought SEVEN (7) pukes to trap one me!
And now you bitch about dying to a trap?!!

Frigging get a backbone, will you??!

Lame ass bitch!

Although I have some issues with Nazgum, I think this was the most beautiful log I ever saw! :P

God.. im just a lamer overkill, so fricking stop spamming comments!

I don't blame Nazgum for trapping me.... mume today
demands traps/overkill/poison to get kills.. its possible
without, but thats rare, unless opponent is lagging...

What i find boring, is that he could trapped us with 6...
I would love to die in a trap, when we get trapped equal numbers...
IF, and i say IF, its a fun fight....

Of course I hunted Naz a bit.. 3-4 rooms here and there...
Only time i really tried was at stonecrack/stonedoor....
I was hoping that would be enough tog et ya off my back
enough to finish my damn mobs!

And yes, I take mume way to seriously, as many of us do...
Is one of the reasons I want to quit, im to addicted, and
hoping that deleting my chars might disencourage me enough
to actually go out, drink beer, and pinch barmaids (then get killed rl by tia)...
But its hard to let old habits go... im used to playing mume
after work.. and damnit, I even have fun now and then, not to
often, but it happends...

Drop da traps Naz, and you'll still be one of my favourites on the game

Damnit Goretongue! Stop mentioning that delectible little wench. I couldnt sleep last night with her haunting my dreams !

It is possible to kill people without traps or poison, and we did it last night Ginlon. The whole chasing of Samurai through the warrens, the troll fights, and finally tracking him down near NOC to finish him off. Get rid of poisons from the game, make block door not so goddam efficient, get rid of rangers, and you'll see alot of the old fun fights again. For those who don't remember when trolls used to live in the Shire, they truly don't know what fun is/was.

ROTFL! Ginlon you bigshit whiner! TWICE you brought SEVEN (7) pukes to trap one me!
And now you bitch about dying to a trap?!!

Frigging get a backbone, will you??!

Lame ass bitch!

Although I have some issues with Nazgum, I think this was the most beautiful log I ever saw! :P

I say get rid of them damn rock fragments. I bet the trapwhores would think twice about sitting inside closeables all day if it was possible for them to get blocked in and trapped themselves. Now all they have to do is break out one of their 1000 rock fragments they have in their pouch, bust down the door, and leave a couple redshirts to buff while they scurry off to the next trap location.

*nod Tempest* It was fun wasn't it? :) That Samurai runs like the wind, i swear!

Holly comments Bat Man!
I gonna try and be brief....
1) Sucks that Ginlon is leavin, he is a cool guy, tho i agree he takes
his deaths too harshly.
2) I think that Naz' trap was lame. Honestly, i dont care if most of those
trolls were lvl 5.... 14 vs 5 ?! where is the fun in that?

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It's already closed!

* *Relim the Dúnadan Man*:Fine an orkish scout:Fine>
*a sturdy Dwarf* has arrived from above.
*an Elf* has arrived from above.
*a noble Elf* has arrived from above.
*a sturdy Dwarf* has arrived from above.
*a powerful Woman* has arrived from above.
*a Dwarf* has arrived from above.
*a Dwarf* has arrived from above.
Dusk begins some strange incantations...
*a powerful Woman* smites Dusk's head extremely hard and shatters it.

Don't worry smack, ginlon isnt leaving, and he wont suicide either, he's just full of shit, he's back in notime.

Unknown, speaking from your own experience of trying to quit eh? :)

I am not talking about WARRENS Ginlon.

You pukes think I am only to be found in warrens. I am talking about Khuzur, icedoor, Moria, lord, DT or whatever place there is 1 or more dark rooms to stay in.

Of course you raid with tons of pukes. You do NOT hear me whine about a raid! The point is there is NEARLY no raid lately. The last raid I was on as Duvel I died 2 times with him, but killed 3 pukes. I had lots of fun and no whine.

*Shrug*

Can you say you quit mume if you type in like 5k text in mume.net-comments?

Cellar traps? Goddamn. Bastards.

Just 5? Goddamn i was trying for 6. *pout*

I wonder for how long did trolls wait in there. If it was more than 12 ticks I consider it pretty lame. Traps where the victim has no chance to find out if its trap and no chance to get out are really unfair.

Don't blame those players who do these kind of traps tho. From tactical point of view, wait-traps in these areas (like bbt) are very effective, since sooner or later someone will enter the place without chance to get out. So if you happen to have enough ppl inthere waiting, you are gonna get kills for sure.
Those players are actually doing their best (even if it is lame).
Blame the Ainur who built zones that allow that.
Blame the implementors who wrote code that allows that.

Nah tairach im sure our tracks were only a few ticks old there

What tairach describes as lame sounds like what the czechs do several times every day.

The czechs, with tairach among them, can easily do 5-10 traps every day of mume play, but they (if tairach speaks true) only spend 10 minutes on each one. and this is quite ok, while spending the same amount on time, but on one trap instead of many, is lame? I fail to see the logic...

THIS LOG ROCKED! I laughed my ass off.
First off, Nazgum's a great player, he's always thinking of ways to beat you in any situation.
And that's why he's so dangerous. If you think it's lame well, 90% of you are hypocrites
who do shit similar or as "lame". but when it happens to you it's lame, when u do it it's sweet
so shut the fuck up til they change a rule or two.

Ginlon dies. ---->clap clap clap.
Ginlon says 'im deleting all chars now' ----->clap, clap, clap.

I got excited seeing those comments, too bad he does have the guts to do it:)
*taunt* *taunt*

" died 3 times to Mammoth at GC... lost better eq
than most of you have seen.. "

-Ginlon the Humble

Gods this little boy is the most egotistical annoying player
aside from Rogon and whomever plays that Yanwe fuckup. All
of you just plain quit and the rest of us can enjoy the game
without cry-baby attitudes like this.

Are you word-blind? Tairachs point is that traps you have no way of detecting are lame, like waiting until tracks disappears, or waiting for ages in a place where people go exping/smobbing. Portal traps would also fall into this category though, and czechs do them all the time :P

Portal traps dont fall into this category.
You can always count with posibility of portal ambush and get ready for that,
for example you can be ready to break doors with rocks, or you can get portaller
with you to portal you out in case of trouble. I think that portal is even
storable on higher levels. Also if its portable, everyone with port/word can
leave, so victim has chance.

Also I would not call it portal traps but portal ambushes.
We surely dont do portal traps all the time.

Yeah walking into a trap spot and waiting an hour is lame, but portaling in is not lame. the logic gets more and more clear. I think i have it figured out now. it goes something like this :

If i do it, its cool, if i dont, its lame.

was that right?

How does knowing there is a chance of a portal any different then knowing there is a chance 8 cz having been sitting behind a door for an hour?