*peer* kaldae
posted by Yanwe
2000-10-07 22:15:31
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kaldae tries to cheat...i think this MIGHT be breaking of char seperation rules
Start logging: 07.10.2000 15:47


##So i rent my sauron's lister dwarf, and log on my mage, to find kaldae angry
at me since i whacked 1 of his chars with my dwarf. btw, i not mess with kaldae's
harms, it's purty clear by the log that i fear this mean pelf :P
he had been chasing me around abit earlier, but i never let him land
a spell. he didnt do anything illegal here, but just be warned!

l
Council Chamber
A large bulletin board is mounted on a wall here.
A Guard of Bree stands here.

* W C Mana:Hot>t kaldae why you kill me?

The voice of Yants whispers to you 'i see nothign wrong yet'  <--he was snoopin me

* W C Mana:Hot>
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>t yants he about to portal in on me :P been trying to attack but i been avoiding
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>st
w
You stop resting, and stand up.

* W C Mana:Hot>The oakdoor seems to be closed.

* W C Mana:Hot>op oakdoor
r
That's impossible, I'm afraid.

* W C Mana:Hot>whe
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

* W C Mana:Hot>Whity narrates 'Somebody please cast "remove night" near Rivendell'
Players in your zone
--------------------
Yanwë                - Council Chamber
Kaldae               - Main Street
Dreath               - Junction
Sushi                - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
Griffin              - The Common Room

* W C Mana:Hot>r
You are already resting.

* W C Mana:Hot>1
cast quick 'block door' oakdoor
Nah... 
You feel too relaxed to do that..

* W C Mana:Hot>csn
can
cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>st
You stop resting, and stand up.

* W C Mana:Hot>cre
cast 'create food'
You start to concentrate...

eat food
r
Darkangel narrates 'why? :D'

A magic mushroom suddenly appears.

* W C Mana:Hot>
You eat the mushroom.
You are full.

* W C Mana:Hot>
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

* W C Mana:Hot>dr
drink skin
You drink the water.

* W C Mana:Hot>eq
kk
You are using:
<wielded>            a double edged eket (brand new)
<worn as shield>     a shield of Cardolan (brand new)
<worn on head>       a leather helmet (worn out)
<worn on body>       a black shirt (brand new)
<worn about body>    a forest green cloak (used)
<worn on arms>       a black pair of sleeves (brand new)
<worn on hands>      a pair of soft leather gloves (brand new)
<worn on legs>       a black pair of pants (brand new)
<worn on feet>       a pair of soft leather boots (brand new)
<worn on finger>     a ring
<worn on finger>     a ring
<worn on back>       a leather backpack
<worn as belt>       a plain leather belt
<worn on belt>       a lantern
<worn on belt>       a water skin

* W C Mana:Hot>snuff lantern
Nothing happens.

* W C Mana:Hot>stat
OB: 46%, DB: 6%, PB: 62%, Armour: 47%. Wimpy: 100. Mood: wimpy.
Needed: 301,616 xp, 0 tp. Gold: 14. Alert: normal.
Affected by:
- stored spell fireball.
- stored spell fireball.
- shroud
- shield
- armour

* W C Mana:Hot>csn
can
cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>
Whity narrates 'or "increase clock"'

* W C Mana:Hot>
Darkangel narrates 'night is nice...my lord-companion :O)'

* W C Mana:Hot>l
Council Chamber
A large bulletin board is mounted on a wall here.
A Guard of Bree stands here.

* W C Mana:Hot>csn
cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>can
cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>whe
Players in your zone
--------------------
Yanwë                - Council Chamber
Kaldae               - Main Street
Dreath               - Junction
Sushi                - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
Griffin              - The Common Room

* W C Mana:Hot>
Galadria narrates 'you can get a beta symbol on your own keyboard if you like
too actually:)'

* W C Mana:Hot>whe

Kaldae tells you 'heh, got portaller'

* W C Mana:Hot>Players in your zone
--------------------
Yanwë                - Council Chamber
Kaldae               - Main Street
Dreath               - Junction
Sushi                - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
Griffin              - The Common Room

* W C Mana:Hot>t yants you snoopin still?
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>kk
snuff lantern
Nothing happens.

* W C Mana:Hot>t kaldae hehe who?
Ok.

* W C Mana:Hot>dr
drink skin
Your stomach can't contain anymore!

* W C Mana:Hot>
Kaldae tells you 'tapja'
Galadria narrates 'not only for germans!:�'

* W C Mana:Hot>t kaldae why ya whack me anyway?
Ok.

* W C Mana:Burning>
Griffin narrates 'lol @ galadria  perhaps, but not as a mistake!'

* W C Mana:Burning>
Benny narrates 'well I can't really use it for anything'

* W C Mana:Burning>t tapja you know helping kaldae will be helping him break the rules, yes?
Ok.

* W C Mana:Burning>
Kaldae tells you 'because you rented makan'  <--!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

* W C Mana:Burning>
Kaldae tells you 'and didnt wanna answer for your crimes'

* W C Mana:Burning>t tapja he's gonna whack me since i rented makan
Ok.

* W C Mana:Burning>kk
snuff lantern
Nothing happens.

* W C Mana:Burning>t kaldae heh
dr
Ok.
Tapja tells you 'breaking rules ?'

* W C Mana:Burning>drink skin
Your stomach can't contain anymore!

* W C Mana:Burning>
Saving Yanwë.

* W C Mana:Burning>t tapja nods, he's gonna whack me for something my dwarf did
dr
Ok.

* W C Mana:Burning>kk
drink skin
Your stomach can't contain anymore!

* W C Mana:Burning>snuff lantern
Nothing happens.

* W C Mana:Burning>whe
csn
Players in your zone
--------------------
Yanwë                - Council Chamber
Kaldae               - Main Street
Sushi                - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
Griffin              - The Common Room

* W C Mana:Burning>can
cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C Mana:Burning>cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C Mana:Burning>
Kaldae tells you 'and, any moron who play a char on sauron, needs to die'

* W C Mana:Burning>
Darkangel narrates 'ok 6th time i do lord today'

* W C Mana:Burning>t yants you snoopin still

Darkangel narrates 'he still doesnt load ring :O)'

* W C Mana:Burning>
Ok.

* W C Mana:Burning>cst

Tapja tells you 'hmm, i heared you killed him with makan '

* W C Mana:Burning>cha sp t
Ok.

* W C Mana:Burning>t tapja shake, i killed one of his lowbies
Ok.

* W C>t tapja he's TOTALLY breaking the rules
Ok.

* W C>
Kaldae tells you 'so, you can quit and log makan and die'

* W C>t tapja and he can kick my ass hehe

Whity narrates 'ok..lets make a contest...who can make the funniest symbol on
narrate'

* W C>
Ok.
Whity narrates 'gets a piece of shining from the highest lvl player online'

* W C>cst
cha sp t
Ok.

* W C>wim
cha mood wimpy
Ok.

* W C>cst
cha sp t
Ok.

* W C>whe
Players in your zone
--------------------
Yanwë                - Council Chamber
Kaldae               - Main Street
Sushi                - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
Griffin              - The Common Room

* W C>st
sc
You stop resting, and stand up.

* W C>203/203 hit, 120/120 mana, and 122/122 moves.

* W C>stat
OB: 46%, DB: 56%, PB: 62%, Armour: 47%. Wimpy: 100. Mood: wimpy.
Needed: 301,616 xp, 0 tp. Gold: 14. Alert: normal.
Affected by:
- stored spell fireball.
- stored spell fireball.
- shroud
- shield
- armour

* W C>w
whe
The oakdoor seems to be closed.

* W C>Players in your zone
--------------------
Yanwë                - Council Chamber
Kaldae               - Main Street
Sushi                - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
Griffin              - The Common Room

* W C>st
You are already standing.

* W C>
Oril narrates 'Man, the Grey Havens Secretary is a BITCH!'

* W C>t kaldae isnt whacking me for what makan did illegal?
Ok.

* W C>
Oril narrates 'I guess I'm just not good enough for that town.'

* W C>cst
cha sp t
Ok.

* W C>can
st
cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C>
You are already standing.

* W C>dr
whe
drink skin
Your stomach can't contain anymore!

* W C>Players in your zone
--------------------
Yanwë                - Council Chamber
Kaldae               - Main Street
Sushi                - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
Griffin              - The Common Room

* W C>whois sushi
Sushi is a level nineteen Dwarven Battlemaster.
Is playing from *.com.

"The difference between genius and stupidity
is that genius has its limits."
   - Albert Einstein


* W C>whois griffin
Griffin "Thank 
You!" is a Hobbit.
Is playing from [numerical address].
Is playing from .at.
Not only Griffin.....
THE Griffin.....


Just ask me, if you want no answer... ;)

* W C>t sushi bash oakdoor down?
Ok.

* W C>op oakdoor
That's impossible, I'm afraid.

* W C>
Tapja narrates 'ok for tonight its over'

* W C>dr

Abbadon narrates 'level'

* W C>whe
drink skin
Your stomach can't contain anymore!

* W C>Players in your zone
--------------------
Yanwë                - Council Chamber
Kaldae               - Main Street
Sushi                - Main Street
Griffin              - The Common Room

* W C>cst
can
cha sp t
Ok.

* W C>cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C>wim
cha mood wimpy
Ok.

* W C>
Benny narrates 'clap'
Tyzar narrates 'clap'

* W C>t abbadon applaud
Ok.

* W C>whois abbadon
Abbadon is a Hobbit.
Is playing from [numerical address].

* W C>t hanover how goes it?
Ok.

* W C>whois hanover
Hanover says "HanDover your weed, A-Hole" is a Dwarf.
Is playing from *.com.
Nice to see u dead again!

* W C>t hanover rented makan btw  <--purty good friend of mine
Ok.

* W C>
Light gradually filters in, proclaiming a new sunrise outside.

* W C>
Daffel narrates 'there is a rubik, rubek, rubel, and ruben ;0]'

* W C>whois rubik
Rubik the Dwarven Hero is a level twenty-four Dwarven Rider [Retired].
Last login 4 months and 29 days ago from [numerical address].

* W C>whois rubek
Rubek is a Hobbit.
Last login 13 hours ago from *.com.






* W C>whois rubel
Rubel is a Hobbit.
Last login 4 days and 17 hours ago from *.com.
I am on a quest for the red ruby. 

So far i have not much money.
Please donate if you can and want to.
Thank 
You! :)


Rubel smiles at you.                  <--*smile* rubel

* W C>whois ruben
Ruben is a Hobbit.
Last login 2 days and 16 hours ago from *.com.

Fire in the blood, fire in the belly.

Tuen: I need my stuff dude.

* W C>who a
Ainur
-----
 [ M] Annar tough, fast and stupid  (Linkless)
 [Va] Nienor Niniel 
 [Ms] Yants . 
 [ M] Raiden the Maia is a Maia and a Maia  (Idle)
 [ M] Humala - Fountain of Divine Wisdom  (Idle)

5 players on.

* W C>dr
drink skin
You drink the water.

* W C>t nienor you seeing what is going on?
Ok.

* W C>cst
cha sp t
Ok.

* W C>wim
whe
cha mood wimpy
Ok.

* W C>Players in your zone
--------------------
Yanwë                - Council Chamber
Kaldae               - Main Street
Sushi                - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
Griffin              - The Common Room

* W C>t kaldae isnt whacking me for what my dwarf did kinda illegal?
Ok.

* W C>
Kaldae tells you 'I am not'   <--hmm, talked to ainur and changed story mebbe?

* W C>
Kaldae tells you 'i am because of who you are'
Whity narrates 'dreadful orc eoggha'

* W C>
The exit west blurs for a while.

* W C>t kaldae then why did you say you were 
Ok.

* W C>op oakdoor
w
Ok.

* W C>Main Street
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
Kaldae the Elf is standing here (Glowing).
A large warhorse is standing here, clad in mail.
Exits: North East South.

* W C>
Kaldae closes the oakdoor.

* W C>gig

The lamp-lighter has arrived from the south.

* W C>
You giggle.

* W C>n

The lamp-lighter leaves north.

* W C>Main Street
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
A Guard of Bree stands here.
A lamp-lighter is here, holding a big lantern in his hand.
Exits: North East South West.

* W C>
The Bree Guard leaves east.

* W C>n

The lamp-lighter leaves north.

* W C>csn
At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
A large fountain, made from grey stone, pours water from its centre.
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
A large WARNING SIGN is here.
Sushi the Dwarf is here, riding a mountain mule.
A beautiful and docile horse is standing here.
A lamp-lighter is here, holding a big lantern in his hand.
Exits: North East South West.
The lamp-lighter says 'Hello everybody!'

* W C>cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C>
The lamp-lighter leaves west.

* W C>
The horse leaves west.

* W C>
Saving Yanwë.

* W C>al 1 complain kaldae
Ok.

* W C>stat
csn
OB: 46%, DB: 56%, PB: 62%, Armour: 47%. Wimpy: 100. Mood: wimpy.
Needed: 301,616 xp, 0 tp. Gold: 14. Alert: normal.
Affected by:
- stored spell fireball.
- stored spell fireball.
- shroud
- shield
- armour

* W C>can
cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C>cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C>sc
203/203 hit, 120/120 mana, and 122/122 moves.

* W C>s
Main Street
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
Exits: North East South West.

* W C>s
Main Street
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
Kaldae the Elf is standing here (Glowing).
A large warhorse is standing here, clad in mail.
Exits: North East South.

* W C>sm kaldae
You smile at him.

* W C>
Whity narrates 'sneaker'

* W C>1

Abbadon narrates 'the butterfly makes a strange sound but is suddenly very
silent, as you place a double edged eket in its back......oooh....tough'

* W C>complain kaldae
You can only report someone, or surrender, to a secretary,
at the mayor's office.

* W C>csn
can
cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C>dr
cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C>l
drink skin
Your stomach can't contain anymore!

* W C>Main Street
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
Kaldae the Elf is standing here (Glowing).
A large warhorse is standing here, clad in mail.

* W C>complain

*** Evidence ***

You may complain, or surrender, at the mayor's office.

* W C>dr
drink skin
Your stomach can't contain anymore!

* W C>l
Main Street
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
Kaldae the Elf is standing here (Glowing).
A large warhorse is standing here, clad in mail.

* W C>exa kaldae
A dark, slender tall elven preacher stands before you with a strange
blessing look on his face. He got a pair of dark, deep eyes that
doesnt seem to let go of you.

Kaldae of Ebolas, King of Sinda is in an excellent condition.
Kaldae of Ebolas, King of Sinda is using: 
<wielded>            an engraved broadsword (brand new)
<used as shield>     a bejewelled oak staff; it has a soft glowing aura
<worn on head>       a mithril circlet
<worn on body>       a white robe (worn out)
<worn about body>    a fine grey cloak (used)
<worn on arms>       a fine pair of chain mail sleeves (brand new)
<worn on hands>      a pair of ringmail gloves (brand new)
<worn on legs>       a fine pair of chain mail leggings (brand new)
<worn on feet>       a black pair of padded boots (worn out)
<worn around neck>   a necklace
<worn around neck>   a pale blue stone
<worn on wrist>      a keyring with a couple of keys and a set of lock picks
<worn on wrist>      a jade bracelet
<worn on finger>     a copper ring
<worn on finger>     a diamond ring
<worn on back>       a leather backpack
<worn as belt>       a gleaming belt
<worn on belt>       a gem-inlaid knife (battered)
<worn on belt>       a sable pouch
<worn on belt>       a sable pouch
<worn on belt>       an herbal kit

* W C>'sanced?
gig
emote bellows 'sanced?'
Ok.

* W C>
You giggle.

* W C>clos oakdoor
It's already closed!

* W C>csn
can
cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C>cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C>train all
You start refreshing all of your skills...

You refresh your training in 'swim'.

You mentally recite the 'burning hands' spell.

You mentally recite the 'sleep' spell.
No more skill needs refreshing.

* W C Mana:Burning>l
Main Street
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
Kaldae the Elf is standing here (Glowing).
A large warhorse is standing here, clad in mail.

* W C Mana:Burning>
The voice of Yants whispers to you 'you complain of character sepration but
then you tell other player "rented makan btw"'

* W C Mana:Burning>t yants told hanover
Ok.

* W C>
The voice of Yants whispers to you 'if you go around telling people you are
this and that you cannot then complain about charactger seperation'

* W C>
Kaldae waves good-bye to himself.

* W C>t yants peer
Ok.

* W C>

Yants stops keeping an eye on you.


* W C>t yants that's VERY different from killing people over it
Ok.

* W C>l
Main Street
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
Kaldae the Elf is standing here.
A large warhorse is standing here, clad in mail.

* W C>'er
emote bellows 'er'
Ok.

* W C>'wave?
emote bellows 'wave?'
Ok.

* W C>kk
snuff lantern
Nothing happens.

* W C>l
Main Street
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
Kaldae the Elf is standing here.
A large warhorse is standing here, clad in mail.

* W C>get oil pack
fill lantern
You get a dark coloured flask from a leather backpack.

* W C>
You completely fill a lantern with oil.

* W C>exa flask
It's more than half full of a black liquid.

* W C>pas
put all pack
You put a dark coloured flask in a leather backpack.

* W C>kk
snuff lantern
Nothing happens.

* W C>wim
cha mood wimpy
Ok.

* W C>whe
Players in your zone
--------------------
Dino                 - Weapon Shop
Yanwë                - Main Street
Kaldae               - Main Street
Tagrus               - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony
Vanir                - At the Sign of The Prancing Pony

* W C>whosi vanir
Arglebargle, glop-glyf!?!

* W C>whois tagrus
Tagrus is a level nineteen Dwarven Battlemaster.
Is playing from *.com.

"The difference between genius and stupidity
is that genius has its limits."
   - Albert Einstein


* W C>whois vanir
Vanir is a level seventeen Dwarven Battlemaster.
Is playing from *.ee.

* W C>t yants are you joking?
Ok.

* W C>who a
csn
Ainur
-----
 [ M] Annar tough, fast and stupid  (Linkless)
 [Va] Nienor Niniel 
 [Ms] Yants . 
 [ M] Raiden the Maia is a Maia and a Maia  (Idle)
 [ M] Humala - Fountain of Divine Wisdom  (Idle)

5 players on.

* W C>can
cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C>cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C>
Kaldae begins some strange incantations...

* W C>
Kaldae utters the word 'armour'

* W C>
Griffin has arrived from the south.

* W C>
Griffin leaves north.

* W C>
Kaldae smiles happily.

* W C>sm
You smile happily.

* W C>cast 'sleep' yanwe
You cannot cast this spell upon yourself.

* W C Mana:Burning>csn
can
Healer narrates 'me out'
cha spell normal
Ok.

* W C Mana:Burning>dr
cha alert normal
Ok.

* W C>drink skin
Your stomach can't contain anymore!

* W C>
Healer narrates 'got rocked'

* W C>t hanover was it you i told 'rented makan btw' to?
Ok.

* W C>dr

A sparrow has arrived from the north.

* W C>drink skin
Your stomach can't contain anymore!

* W C>
Oiri has arrived from the south riding a pack horse.

* W C>
Oiri leaves north riding a pack horse.

* W C>
Tyzar narrates 'I am lost in the shire, I went to the abbandon hobbit hole,
and then it re-poped, and I can't get up the side of the waterfall, and I
don't know the door name to get out, HELP ME please?'

* W C>
Hanover tells you 'yeah'

* W C>
Yants tells you 'no i'm not -- if you go around oout of character when it is
convienent you can't spring only when you need it'

* W C>
Griffin narrates 'who gave me pale blue stone ?'

* W C>
Hanover tells you 'but was doin lord'

* W C>t hanover yants is trying to tell me that i broke char seperation rules more than kaldae
Ok.

* W C>
Hanover tells you 'couldn't respond '

* W C>
A sparrow leaves north.

* W C>
Griffin narrates 'and i wonder why i can rent only 21 days....'

* W C>
Yants tells you 'either way i gotta go to the market now...'

* W C>
Hanover tells you 'how so'
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Yanwe2000-10-07 22:18:29
how can telling a friend you rented another char that he already knows
you play compare AT ALL to going after someone because they killed one of
your other chars? hell, i didnt even kill kaldae as makan, i whacked
one of his other chars. *spit*
Throk2000-10-07 22:27:06
Yanwe used to be on elbereths, isnt THAT enough reason to kill him?
Throk2000-10-07 22:28:00
oh and the part about him being a total moron, i forgot that part too
Yanwe2000-10-07 22:30:00
too bad that wasnt the reason he was doing it, huh?
Yanwe2000-10-07 22:30:23
btw, i'm bracing myself for huge flames :)
Faloth2000-10-07 22:43:07
your a fucking pest, go away yanwe
Nazgum2000-10-07 23:08:14
i agree completely with yants here, If u comply with char
seperation rules no one should know who your other chars
are, and thusforth there would be no problem.

If u go around telling everyone who you play, then get made
because they dislike the person who plays your chars and
is harsh to all of them, it's your own fault.
Yanwe2000-10-07 23:17:45
you just agree with yants cause you dont like me :P
Unknown2000-10-07 23:19:55
You're a fucking asshole, we will all kill all your chars every chance we get.
To:Yanwe/Frink2000-10-07 23:38:22
Well then smartass, try NOT threatening to kill those trolls just bcoz of the orc shit. You're so full of it.
Frink2000-10-07 23:40:07
Unknown threaten frink? they unknown cause frink breaka their head!
Elistan2000-10-08 01:01:11
As far as I am concerned, I will kill you and your characters whenever I see them. You are the biggest idiot on MUME, and I hope you fucking DIE! Btw I dont give a shit about demotion, when I see you with any of your characters you are dead!
Vlas2000-10-08 01:04:43
I threaten Frink...what ya gonna do about it?

OOC:Player Yanwe is a loser, and i doubt anyone
really likes him... so, why is anyone surprised?
Tuen2000-10-08 01:10:38
Isn't it kinda obvious to your friend that if your on Yanwe and Makan isn't on that you had rented Makan? Or am i just seeing things here?
Juston2000-10-08 01:55:52
I noticed something:
Take an Ms God- let's say for example- Yants
Now take a mortal- let's say- Yanwe

YANwe
YANts

Now if you spell YAN backwards you get NAY
and if you combine 'we' and 'ts' you get 'wets'
So take these two random chars and use the logic given here to make this concept. "Yanwe, Yants nay nay wets"
Concidence?
Kaldae2000-10-08 02:25:56
I was not allowed to kill him due to:
"I had the wrong reason" in Nienor's eyes.
So next time I see any of his chars!
That is: Korf, Zoone, Strine, Makan and Yanwe that i know..
I will find some reason, any reason to deal with him.
Rza2000-10-08 02:52:11
Kaldae tells you 'and, any moron who play a char on sauron, needs to die'

alright he's dead
Ainu Bitch2000-10-08 02:58:00
Don't ferget his players of Rauko/Grang....
Zoone2000-10-08 05:35:08
erm...how did i get confused for this guy?
Lochdale2000-10-08 08:15:35
Its a shame really cos Makan et al is a good ppl and used to be a decent chap. Not sure what happened.
Siroth2000-10-08 11:07:55
Yanwe is a bitch!
learn how to deal with your problems instead of crying to mum.
Pampalini2000-10-08 11:35:03
I think 99% of all players should be demoted for character separation.
If no1 breaks it, how we could know that Dain plays Huor, Elestir is
Tairach, Norsu is Pandion, etc. So let's all get demoted?
Lalin2000-10-08 12:09:52
i was once stupid too when separated newbie elf and legend dwarf char:) was threatening ppl with hangover:P
Alcion2000-10-08 12:46:47
Go Yanwe! :)
Cur2000-10-08 16:18:04
Anyone that has a character that is listed on sauron's list deserves no sympathy whatsoever from anyone on anything. They should be bansited for a short while as a warning first, then permanently if they can't behave like civilized people.

Shame on you, Yanwe.
Thaedil2000-10-08 17:51:16
Ok i dont get this...first you tell Yanwe not to whine because he broke the char-separation rule..and now everyone agrees on killing ANY char of a player that has ONE char on Saurons list is allright? Dang guys if that aint breaking the rules then i dont know what is. If someone chooses to play an evil character, let him, and dont direct your frustrations over it to any other char he plays. Btw this does not mean i agree with Yanwe, he complained about breaking the rule while breaking the rule. But i dont see the reason to act against a PLAYER and not against a CHARACTER. (Linkless killing is a whole other matter)
Mouser the griz2000-10-08 18:37:38
Yanwe has a point....... no matter how distasteful sauron listees are they are
playing a single character. To take revenge against his other characters is
illegal and those violating that separation should be strictly punished.

There is a punishment for sauron listees .... its called realdeath. If you wish
to punish the listee ... gets some balls and kill him
Khantar2000-10-08 18:59:22
Just because he killed someone's char doesnt mean he's immune from all of his
victim's chars forever. If he killed a random char, why cant Kaldae kill a
random char (which happens to be one of Yanwe's)? Well, he can.
Aragazt2000-10-08 19:08:12
p(yanwe) is p(strine) also???
This guy really ought to be killed, he has robbed many people with summon, he tells you to give him your ring for identifying and then summons you and gets all your stuff.
He tried it with me once, luckily i was too smart, i had seen a log of strine doing that.
Cur2000-10-08 19:30:25
What I was trying to say, is that when somebody (a person, not a character) does
something while playing the game that is forbidden or very decidedly frowned
upon by the management, he (again, the person, not only the character) should
be punished. If people want to play the game, they have to be able to do it
within the framework of not only the rules but also the spirit of MUME. And
I simply cannot see why we can't fix the blame to where it belongs in cases
such as same-side pkilling, namely the person playing the character, not the
character who is, after all, only a figment of the person's imagination combined
with some MUME code. I don't mean to say I am against character seperation WHERE
SUCH SEPERATION IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYONE PLAYING IN ORDER TO ENHANCE
THE PLEASURE EVERYONE TAKES FROM PLAYING THIS GAME.
Zeus2000-10-08 19:48:40
Since when does some1 need a REASON to kill some1????
DIE ALL!!!!!! :)
Cur2000-10-08 19:54:10
Eheh, I hit save by mistake P) anyway, let me continue.

Character seperation should NEVER be used as an excuse for doing something
hurtful or illegal. So if some1 spams me with abuse, I expect the management
to take steps and punish THE PERSON. Roleplaying has nothing whatsoever to do
with hurting others, especially when you're PLAYING A GAME. If you want serious
role-playing that allows you greater freedom for inflicting or receiving pleasure and pain, go hire a hooker/rentboy or get a boy/girlfriend with similar tastes.

What I'm trying to say is that this is a game, a pastime that presumably exists
to give us pleasure (or kill some spare time), not a vehicle for us to convey
our resentment or pent-up anger for inflicting upon others who are merely there
to smell the flowers (or code, if you will). So if you want to hide behind the
strange fact that the management has not (yet) seen fit to punish those who
same-side pk more vehemently than they do (the current system of sauron's list
works almost as shit does for flies for some people) you are craven, cowardly
and sick, sick, sick if you use it as an excuse to inflict pain upon other
-persons- who are playing their character in order to have fun. For after all,
character seperation is never absolute in real life, and many of us feel more or
less depressed when bad things happen to our characters.

In my opinion, character seperation should be stressed (as it is now) when it
comes to information being passed between characters, especially regarding pk,
but also when it comes to (and let me stress this) ESSENTIALLY HARMLESS AND
UNIMPORTANT, BUT ENTERTAINING OR EVEN INTERESTING aspects of different
characters. Examples would be different kinds of emotes, favourite areas for
exping, tendencies to explore, methods of fighting, wimpiness/bravery and even
when it comes to liking or disliking certain other characters, races or even
mobs. Character seperation should NEVER apply to something it cannot apply to,
such as when someone offends you as a person, not merely your character. If they
do so, they can only blame themselves for any punishment they receive.

I'm sorry about the length of this post, but I feel kind of strongly about this,
and really think there is room for making MUME better when it comes to this. And
when I say better, I mean better for the 98% who can enjoy playing games without
inflicting hurt (any1 remember the one bully there is in every footballgame that
absolutely HAS to kick the ball as hard as they can in the direction of the
other team's keeper's face/groin and uses every foul trick in the book?). I
cannot be bothered to worry about whether or not the remaining 2%, who should
seek professional help in rl (I keep office hours - call me), enjoy themselves
or not, or indeed listen to their whines when they complain that their favourite
toy for hurting others is taken away from them.
Celorfilas2000-10-08 20:02:20
I didn't read Cur's post so forgive me if I repeating but, imps wouldn't have put in code like Sauron's list if they wanted to site-ban ppl who are put on it. The penalty of real-death is enough deterent, plus a sauron-lister servers purpose in game.

Unfortunately Makan et al has been killing same-race on all his chars. And has his whities exping on bree guards etc. Tho he hasn't abused newbie protection, so thats a plus.
Tiá2000-10-08 21:35:22
Damn Cur i think you beat the length of my post in the other log :((((
Niccolo2000-10-08 23:55:47
Personally I have and always will find eleberths saurons and character separation rules to be extremely gay. If people wanna behave like children on this mud I think it should be fine and dandy to log in a character that has the power to switfly punish their childish ways. Teenagemutantoverkilltrapping mud is starting to really suck.
Galadon2000-10-09 01:09:15
Juston's post is awfully nice!
Scrape2000-10-09 08:38:39
I want some of what Juston smokes.
Whity2000-10-09 11:54:50
Juston rules!

Nay?
Benny2000-10-09 14:13:57
Juston, what is your pager #? I WANT SOME TOO!
Thaedil2000-10-09 15:45:56
Unknown2000-10-09 18:46:42
I think it sux to pk same side, no matter if you log on another char and talk to a god you sux when you pk same side.
Isoldir2000-10-09 22:45:47
GIMME SOME OF THAT SHIT Juston, there will be many rewards...
Mouser2000-10-10 00:24:55
I agree whole heartedly with Celerfilas.

If same-side pk was not to occur there would be stricter penalties on
not just the offending character but the player and all his character.
There isn't though any such penlaty. There is only a penalty on the character.
(and only then if he is caught in the spirit of the game). Thats simply the
way the imps have made it. The have also explicity forbidden the punishing of
a players characters for the sins of a single character.

And yes Khanter, said sauron listee's innocent characters could be randomly
killed by another
character but its fair for ainu to look into the circumstances of the death
and if they don't demote, they at the very list should also suaron list the
random killer.

There are evil people in the world (as well as idiots) and
arda is no different. Mume actually reflects this fairly well. Whether you
approvie of it or not, same-side pk is an option but it carries a heavy price.
The discouragement/punishment for same-side pk is real death.

Johannes2000-10-10 07:42:24
I'm too fucking tired to read all this shit :-(
Throk2000-10-10 07:54:41
ya juston does rule
not a problem a2000-10-10 11:31:45
well yanwe wont have to worry about this anymore since makan ripped
Natash2000-10-11 12:15:49
On Saurons list... One day i gonna make a char for saurons list...
First ask gods nicely to list me, then kick the shit out of a few newbies till
i get killed... Ppl who know me KNOW that any of my other chars (the goodaligned)
will still be the same. Char separation is for some ppl a natural thing, and u
should not generalise and let true (semi) roleplayers do hteir thing.
goldberg2000-10-11 20:32:39
YANWE.....YOUR NEXT
Gray2000-10-23 17:03:06
His chars are: Strine, Makan, Rauko, Yanwe, Grang, Frink, Bajun, Skud, Korf.
Didn't heard about Zoone, but I trust Kaldae enough to believe him.
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