Isolde isnt what he apears to be
posted by Norman
2000-10-11 19:48:59
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I'm pretty fuckin' sure that Isolde uses actions to hit and track. 
Alas, you cannot go that way...
*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* has arrived from the west riding a horse of the
Rohirrim.

* HP:Wounded Move:Weak>

*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* quickly approaches, trying to crush you.
No way! 
You are fighting for your life!

* HP:Wounded Move:Weak *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
n

*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* crushes your head extremely hard and shatters
it.
You feel a strong ache there!

* HP:Wounded Move:Weak *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
No way! 
You are fighting for your life!

* HP:Wounded Move:Weak *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
f
n

*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* swiftly dodges your attempt to smite her.

* HP:Wounded Move:Weak *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
You flee head over heels.
The High Hill
Exits: ^North^ ^East^ ^South^ ^West^.

o HP:Wounded Move:Weak>
Low Hills
The corpse of the huge, black wolf is lying here.
Exits: North East ^South^ West.

o HP:Wounded Move:Weak>
n
nPine-Forest
Exits: North East ^South^ West.
An ugly forest troll has arrived from the west.

o HP:Wounded Move:Weak>

Pine-Forest
A huge, black wolf is here, ready to devour.
A disgusting forest troll is searching for fresh meat here.
Exits: North East South West.

o HP:Wounded Move:Weak>
n
Pine-Forest
A brutish forest troll is hunting here, looking for some tasty flesh.
A brutish forest troll is hunting here, looking for some tasty flesh.
Exits: North East South West.

o HP:Wounded Move:Fainting>
n
Pine-Forest
Exits: North East South ^West^.

o HP:Wounded Move:Fainting>
r
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

o HP:Wounded Move:Fainting>
sc
165/590 hit, and 3/130 moves.

o HP:Wounded Move:Fainting>
stat
OB: 142%, DB: -30%, PB: 18%, Armour: 4%. Wimpy: 0. Mood: aggressive.
Needed: 496,546 xp, 0 tp. Gold: 10. Alert: normal.
Affected by:
- a light wound at the head.
- panic
- a light wound at the right leg.
- a deep wound at the body.
- a light wound at the right hand.
- a light wound at the left leg.
- noquit
- novoid

o HP:Wounded Move:Weak>
sc
168/590 hit, and 5/130 moves.

o HP:Wounded Move:Weak>
cw
Ok.

o HP:Wounded Move:Weak>
stat
*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* has arrived from the south riding a horse of the < WTF 2 SECONDS
Rohirrim.									
OB: 87%, DB: -30%, PB: 72%, Armour: 4%. Wimpy: 0. Mood: wimpy.		
Needed: 496,546 xp, 0 tp. Gold: 10. Alert: normal.				
Affected by:
- a light wound at the head.
- panic
- a light wound at the right leg.
- a deep wound at the body.
- a light wound at the right hand.
- a light wound at the left leg.
- noquit
- novoid

* HP:Wounded Move:Weak>

*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* crushes your right arm extremely hard.

* HP:Bad Move:Weak *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
'

f
* HP:Bad Move:Weak *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
You flee head over heels.
Pine-Forest
A huge, black wolf is here, ready to devour.
Exits: North East South West.

o HP:Bad Move:Fainting>
s
Pine-Forest
A huge, black wolf is here, ready to devour.
Dusk the Black Númenórean is here, riding a pack horse.
Exits: North East West.

* HP:Bad Move:Fainting>

--<< W E S T  >>--
Dusk leaves west riding a pack horse.

o HP:Bad Move:Fainting>
w
Pine-Forest
The brutish forest troll is here, fighting Dusk.
The brutish forest troll is here, fighting Dusk.
A disgusting forest troll is searching for fresh meat here.
The brutish forest troll is here, fighting Dusk.
Dusk the Black Númenórean is here, riding a pack horse, fighting the brutish
forest troll.
The brutish forest troll is here, fighting Dusk.
Exits: North East South West.

* HP:Bad Move:Fainting>

Dusk panics, and attempts to flee.
--<< N O R T H >>--
Dusk leaves north riding a pack horse.

o HP:Bad Move:Fainting>

*a powerful Man* has arrived from the south riding a pack horse.

* HP:Bad Move:Fainting>
n
Pine-Forest
Exits: North East South ^West^.

o HP:Bad Move:Exhausted>

*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* has arrived from the south riding a horse of the <WTF I JUST ARRIVED
Rohirrim.
*a powerful Man* has arrived from the south riding a pack horse.
--<< N O R T H >>--
*a powerful Man* leaves north riding a pack horse.

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted>
'
Bash what or whom?

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted>
s
You are too exhausted.

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted>

You swiftly dodge *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*'s attempt to crush you.

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>

You smite *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*'s left foot hard and tickle it.

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
s
No way! 
You are fighting for your life!

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>

*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* crushes your left leg extremely hard and
shatters it.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

* HP:Bad Move:Fainting *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>

An ugly forest troll has arrived from the south.
The brutish forest troll has arrived from the south.

* HP:Bad Move:Fainting *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
f
>>>>>>>>>>---------- P A N I C ! ! ! ----------<<<<<<<<<<

* HP:Bad Move:Fainting *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>

*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* swiftly dodges your attempt to smite her.

* HP:Bad Move:Fainting *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
f
You flee head over heels.
You are too exhausted.
Pine-Forest
A brutish forest troll is hunting here, looking for some tasty flesh.
A brutish forest troll is hunting here, looking for some tasty flesh.
A brutish forest troll is hunting here, looking for some tasty flesh.
A huge, black wolf is here, ready to devour.
Exits: North East South West.

o HP:Bad Move:Exhausted>

*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* has arrived from the north riding a horse of the
Rohirrim.

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted>

*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* quickly approaches, trying to crush you.

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
*a powerful Man* has arrived from the east riding a pack horse.

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>

The brutish forest troll strongly crushes *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*'s
right foot and tickles it.

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>

*a powerful Man* begins some strange incantations...
The brutish forest troll lightly crushes *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*'s body
and tickles it.

* HP:Bad Move:Exhausted *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>
'
*a powerful Man* utters the words 'eugszr zzur'
*a powerful Man* makes your evil soul suffer with his goodness.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

The brutish forest troll crushes *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*'s body and
tickles it.
*Isolde the Eriadorian Woman* crushes your left leg extremely hard and
shatters it.
You feel a strong ache there!
You are incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.

You are in a pretty bad shape, unable to do anything!

* HP:Dying Move:Exhausted *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>

You are mortally wounded and will die soon if not aided.

* HP:Dying Move:Exhausted *Isolde the Eriadorian Woman*:Fine>

You feel a strong ache there!

You are dead! Sorry...


o HP:Awful Move:Exhausted>
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Shadrach2000-10-11 19:53:49
Yea me to. Not from this log but from passed experiences
Unknown2000-10-11 19:54:21
He dosen't use actions
He's just damn good!
Norman2000-10-11 19:57:08
And about hittin'. Yesterday I went to ford, saw isolde and he instahitted me. You just cant hit a char like that. There were no other trolls around so he couldn't have been spamming it just in case. Then he chased me a bit. He was with a dwarfi so i ran 10 rooms started spammin k *dwarf* but surprise surprise he enters an i get hit from isolde before i can hit dwarf??? is it normal?
Unfortunately i rarely log so that nice even went down the toilet.
AAAA then i yelled isolde autohittin? and after that he didnt hit so quick.
Btw I'm not the only one who suspects that.
Unknown2000-10-11 19:58:27
Norman, You just suck maybe?
Bornack2000-10-11 20:00:39
Im with him all the time in this log and when tracks say west he presses east sometimes so hes not action tracking and many many times we enter on trolls or orcs and they walk out

So no auto hit either
Nerf2000-10-11 20:01:21
Shut the fuck up unknown....although it's hard to see from this log that he uses actions......*scratch crotch*.......
Unknown2000-10-11 20:03:22
I totally agree with Unknown
Amilkhad2000-10-11 20:15:10
This doesn't proof anything.. anyway in my opinion some god should check Isolde
Pampalini2000-10-11 20:23:01
I dont think he uses actions. He has some fast binds, but it's right that on
my client he really sucked (4 deaths in one day), but that was more funny then
now when he rocks. Hmms what about to log on orc isolde? Digging for fame on
puke side must be kinda boring.
Buliwyf2000-10-11 20:24:23
What's the evidence in this log he uses actions? I don't care bout Isolde one way or the other, but don't see what he did that was overtly wrong here.
Isolde2000-10-11 20:27:03
laugh, normans comment is damn cute!

6, 2%, #Shadrach
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6, 2%, #Shadrach
6, 2%, #Shadrach
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6, 2%, #Shadrach
goldberg2000-10-11 20:33:50
ISOLDE..you action using whore....YOUR NEXT
pisso the clown2000-10-11 20:35:21
WELL well this amazing log gets my highest praise, a great big golden shower.
Shadrach2000-10-11 20:47:53
I could have sworn it was more.
To bad i didnt get rhodry on trophy since he mobripped.
Fredde2000-10-11 21:08:23
i dont think isolde uses actions, he is DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN fast tho.
and its not that hard to get away to so.

Hannibal2000-10-11 21:53:58
yeah, isolde is fucking elite-mudder =P

the big question is: is that good or bad?
Brunne2000-10-11 22:06:11
3 brutish in room and you dont bash? you deserved to die...
Torment2000-10-11 23:02:36
Maybe he is damn quick, when not in Tall Orc :/
Juston2000-10-11 23:40:20
I noticed something again-
Let's take an M god this time- Isoldir
Let's take a legend- Isolde

ISOLDir
ISOLDe

(My notes become scrawled at this point but this is what i found out as my conclusion)

"Phier buried Paul."
Isoldir2000-10-11 23:50:21
Hmm, p(juston)=Jessica Fletcher from Murder she wrote?

I always knew he was hiding something....
Roadkill2000-10-12 00:28:22
Well, I like (p)Isolde/Tindomerel quite a bit. And I'm certain he doesn't use
actions, at least not always. BUT sometimes I can't help but wonder. I've met
him and have got instahit, have been spamming hit or bash and still got hit
first. And that's got me thinking if it's possible for some ppl who seem
superhumanly fast sometimes to use actions for a short while at a time just
while they're in the middle of pk and then turn them off, and not even use
them always in pk. So I'm wondering if gods snoop for actions during battles,
or just by performing random tests while the player is idling somewhere safe.

Nothing personal towards Isolde there, he's not by any means the only one who
seems incredibly fast-fingered on the ol' keyboard sometimes.
The Harrasser2000-10-12 01:19:13
From my personal experience, I've seen lots of instances of
cheating from the so called elites...from ICQing info to action hitting.
Seems to always be the name players. So cheating is definately out
there. Theres so many people with FLEE triggers, why they are not sought
out and demoted is beyond me. Spring a FLEE trigger at PPI or RD and see
the many pukes that cheat. Pretty fucking common really. But if you ask
them they say 'I turn it off during pkill'...riiight
Buliwyf2000-10-12 01:24:55
Alot of times what might seem like actions are just common sense moves. I've been called an action user many times, which is pretty funny considering I use telnet. I see an orc, chase him spamming kill orc, and hit another orc who can't believe I hit him even though I didn't know he was there. Or predicting a troll might be sitting at Ford so have kill troll pretyped, and voila! There IS a troll there! While I've got no doubt some people do cheat using actions, I'd bet alot of it isn't.
Khorak2000-10-12 05:54:34
Isolde is damn fast. She runs after me with unhuman speed sumtimes but I have not
noticed constant hits from her..

Anyway goes fast.. and has good sense..
Raoh2000-10-12 06:22:51
most likely its just a link difference, if actions she would be caught
Nerf to Buliwyf2000-10-12 06:48:23
Ermmm, how can you pretype anything on telnet? Please let us all know....*Scratch Crotch*.......
Nerf to Buliwyf2000-10-12 06:59:52
Ermmm, how can you pretype anything on telnet? Please let us all know....*Scratch Crotch*.......
nerf2000-10-12 07:00:27
shit, sorry fer double post....*scratch crotch*...
Roadkill2000-10-12 07:42:15
Buliwyf, I know about common sense moves. And I know about accidents like you
describe when you pretype something to hit one orc and hit another one instead
that hadn't seen you before. What bothers me is when someone follows my random
fleeing and spamming different directions so fast I don't even see the room
name before I get the message that I've been hit again. And my link is good,
let me add.

And this is not just a case of envy. I don't mind ppl being good or successful
at pk, I enjoy it in fact. Even I have sometimes pk'ed successfully. And I got
accused of using actions less than a handful of times, always in instances as
described above. So one could not say that all warlords get automatically
accused of using actions. We all (or at least, many of us) remember how pk got
really boring when ppl were using actionhitting and autotracking with
autohitting and actionfollowing and actionrehitting, like Kostej and Trica
(among others). Of course, they cleaned up their act (or at least, Kostej did,
whatever you may feel about his preferred mode of pk after that) when their
actions got banned. But there has always been a trend in MUME to circumvert the
rules or even cheat as slightly as possible so as to give you a significant
advantage without (hopefully) being too obvious and letting everyone know about
it. So I feel these concerns are not out of line, especially when a number of
people voice the same opinion. And I think that an additional level of
scrutiny can only be helpful in enforcing what is, after all, the rules of the
mud, don't you?
Othrod2000-10-12 08:58:04
He doesnt use actions, you just suck badly. Using keybings to walk (keypad) and buttons to hit (F-buttons) increases speed in pk ALOT. Just like an arcade game, follow hit, follow hit etc.
Roadkill2000-10-12 09:08:37
Of course, I'll happily concede that I suck :-)
Tryksh2000-10-12 10:03:00
Tracking in pine forest is hard because of mobs. But Isolde might knew there are randoms and just spammed around and hit.
Unknown2000-10-12 10:44:57
I agree with Pisso the Clown....*Scratch Cro......errr....
Reivax2000-10-12 15:27:06
I play from Trica's lab, and we still use actions too pk! All the time! And there's nothing you can do about it, since we have even MORE compromising material on 95% of the V+. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Reivax2000-10-12 15:27:53
Ups, I forgot too take my medication. I'm ok now, sorry about that last post....
Melko2000-10-12 18:40:11
Othrod too bad noone is that scared about your skill, i guess you suck too.
Jocke2000-10-13 18:12:10
Isolde is WAY to slow to be using actions.
Unknown2000-10-14 00:57:51
Well maybe he turns them off sometimes so as not to be too obvious, ever think
of that? But then I guess you can teach us all a thing or two about actions,
can't you?
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