Stealing with some Divine Intervention
posted by Anolad
2000-11-05 01:17:21
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pathetic, hilarious, typical, and deserved all in one log
Start logging: 04.11.2000 18:21

### Well first I get these tells from a god for using a skill
I practiced effeciently ###

Yants tells you 'i'd leave bree if i were you'
t yants i'll rent in 2 min
Yants tells you 'i woudln't do it in bree :)'
t yants u gonna make me wanted?
Yants tells you 'i'm sure the mayor will be notified of your evil ways'

### I just thought this was cute ###

Saber gives you 3 lauren coins.
You smile happily.
Saber sits down and rests.
You fall down laughing.
t yants u making me wanted?
Saber says 'kinda takes the fun out of it :)'
Saber giggles.

### Then fuor shows up and starts testing steal ###

* W C>l
Mayor's Office
A huge clock is standing here.
A mailbox stands here stuffed full of messages.
A heavy desk, made of solid oak, stands here.
Jack stands on guard here, collecting monies.
A Guard of Bree stands here, waiting in the headquarters.
A Guard of Bree stands here, waiting in the headquarters.
A secretary is sitting at the desk.
The Mayor of Bree is standing here.
The lamp-lighter is resting here.
A large warhorse is standing here, clad in mail.
Fordge the Man is standing here.
Zyr is standing here.
A rugged-looking Man is standing here.

* W C>
Fuortest has arrived from the west.

* W C>
Zyr says '4 ??'

* W C>whoi fordge
Fordge is a level thirteen Beorning Scout.
Is playing from *.edu.

* W C>exa fuortest
Hi, I'm Fuortest, Fuor's test character.
Fuortest the Test Character is in an excellent condition.

You attempt to peek at the inventory:
a ruby ring  <--- interesting

* W C>
A Bree Guard has arrived from above.

* W C>steal ring fuortets

You feel bolder.

* W C>
Zyr screams loudly!

* W C>Steal what from whom?

* W C>* W C>steal ring fuortest
\|/-\|Fordge says 'how much gold do you have'

/Got it!   ### CACKLE!! ###

* W C>
A Bree Guard leaves west.

* W C>exa fuortets

Zyr says 'none'

* W C>
You don't see a fuortets.

* W C>exa fuortest
Hi, I'm Fuortest, Fuor's test character.
Fuortest the Test Character is in an excellent condition.

You attempt to peek at the inventory:
You don't see anything.

* W C>w
s
Paving Stone Square
There is an old street-lamp on the border of the street.
A Guard of Bree stands here.
Exits: North East South.
A Bree Guard bows before you.

### Well he never noticed I thought that was kinda funny ###

### And then Tindo shows up whole i stole from a few days
ago and I know is hostil towards me ###

* W C>
Tindomerel has arrived from below.
A horse of the Rohirrim has arrived from below.
Prosit has arrived from below.

* W C>exa tindomerel
              Eyes so young, like broken water
              yet know what pain will mean
              They seek their consolation
              in the starlit night
Tindomerel is a middle-aged female Elf.
Tindomerel your sweet little angel is in an excellent condition.
Tindomerel your sweet little angel is using: 
<wielded>            the gleaming broadsword (brand new)
<used as shield>     a bejewelled oak staff; it has a soft glowing aura
<worn on head>       a mithril circlet
<worn on body>       a white shirt (used)
<worn about body>    a fine grey cloak (used)
<worn on arms>       a pair of soft leather sleeves (tattered)
<worn on hands>      a thin pair of leather gloves (ragged)
<worn on legs>       a white pair of pants (used)
<worn on feet>       a pair of soft leather boots (ragged)
<worn around neck>   a dark stone
<worn around neck>   a pale blue stone
<worn on finger>     a copper ring
<worn on finger>     an icy ring
<worn on back>       a leather backpack
<worn across back>   a laced quiver
<worn as belt>       a broad silver belt
<worn on belt>       a stone
<worn on belt>       a sable pouch
<worn on belt>       a fragrant-smelling bag
<worn on belt>       a strange set of lock picks
<worn on belt>       a water skin

You attempt to peek at the inventory:
a black horn shortbow  <--- Bait he's on paranoid
a steel-tipped spear (brand new)
a black candle

* W C>smi
st
You smile happily.

* W C>d
You stop resting, and stand up.

* W C>The Prancing Pony Inn
The storyteller is sitting here, drinking beer and telling tales.
A barman watches you calmly, while skillfully mixing a drink.
Exits: South West Up.

* W C>n

The storyteller says 'again.'

* W C>u
Alas, you cannot go that way...

* W C>The Inn's Rooms
A large bulletin board is mounted on a wall here.
A discarded pry-bar lies here.
Barliman Butterbur, the innkeeper, offers you a room in his inn.
A domesticated pony, beast of burden to many, stands here.
Konrad the Noldo is standing here.
Tindomerel the Noldo is standing here.
A great dark-grey horse stamps restively.
Prosit the Dwarf is standing here.
Exits: Down.

* W C>steal spear tindomerel
/Nowyr has arrived from below.
A pack horse has arrived from below.

-\|/-\Oops...   ### Well nothing really to lose just leave bree
for a few days ###

### So they hunt me some around bree and complain so i get
wanted so i go to fornost and rest at secretary ###

The Corridor
A Dúnadan soldier is here busily performing his duties.
An experienced Dúnadan officer is standing here, keeping things under control.
A secretary is sitting at the desk.
A singing, happy drunk is staggering about here.
Exits: East South West.

* W C>r
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

* W C>l s
l e
The Metaldoor is closed.

* W C>* W C>st
You stop resting, and stand up.

* W C>open Metaldoor
r
It seems to be locked.

* W C>
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

* W C>
Legolad narrates 'LAG'

* W C>stat
OB: 72%, DB: 13%, PB: 91%, Armour: 0%. Wimpy: 200. Mood: wimpy.
Needed: 751,660 xp, 0 tp. Lauren: 338. Alert: normal.
Affected by:
- novoid
- noquit
- imprisoned in no town for 207 days  <--- Yants tried to Jail me or something here..

### And so they come again ###

* W C>
Tindomerel has arrived from the west.
A horse of the Rohirrim has arrived from the west.
Prosit has arrived from the west.

* W C>
Tindomerel giggles.

* W C>
Galádon narrates 'and killed his rohirrim'

* W C>
Tindomerel says 'nerd'

* W C>
Galádon narrates '*nod me*'

* W C>smi
l
You smile happily.
Tindomerel begins some strange incantations...
Ginlon narrates 'Hola all'

* W C>The Corridor
A Dúnadan soldier is here busily performing his duties.
An experienced Dúnadan officer is standing here, keeping things under control.
A secretary is sitting at the desk.
Tindomerel the Noldo is standing here trying to concentrate.
A great dark-grey horse stamps restively.
Prosit the Dwarf is standing here.

* W C>
Tindomerel utters the word 'grzzs'
You feel very sleepy... zzzzzz

* W C>exa tindomerel
In your dreams, or what?

* W C>wake
You can't wake up!

* W C>sco
282/282 hit, 76/76 mana, and 132/132 moves.

* W C>cha wim 281
Wimpy set to: 281

* W C>info
You are a male Silvan.
You are 66 years, 11 months, and 19 days old.
You have played 7 days and 20 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Anólad of Mirkwood, Ageless hero (level 32).
You are six feet four and weigh thirteen stone and two pounds.
Perception: vision 50, hearing -40, smell -75. Alertness: normal.
You must have been sent on Arda to free it from the sorrows that weigh upon it.
You are welcome in Fornost and the Grey Havens.
You are carrying eighty-two pounds of equipment. Heavy, but we will manage... 
Your base abilities are: Str:14 Int:13 Wis:8 Dex:19 Con:15 Wil:14 Per:19.
Offensive Bonus: 72%, Dodging Bonus: -12%, Parrying Bonus: 91%.
You are not wearing any armour.
You have 282/282 hit, 76/76 mana, and 132/132 movement points.
Your mood is wimpy. 
You will flee if your hit points go below 281.
You have scored 12,298,340 experience points and you have 58,555 travel points.
You have been involved in some skirmishes for the armies of the West.
You need 751,660 exp. points and 0 travel points to reach the next level.
You have 338 lauren coins, 8 celeb pennies, and 41 busc pennies.
You are speaking Westron.
You will swim if necessary.
You will climb if necessary.


*** Return: continue, b: back one page, r: redisplay, q:quit (90%) *** 
You are subjected to the following temporary effects:
- sleep
- novoid
- noquit
- imprisoned in no town for 207 days

* W C>em whore :p
Ok.

* W C>
You have been blinded!

o W C>
Saving Anólad.

o W C>
You feel a cloak of blindness dissolve.

* W C>stat
OB: 72%, DB: -12%, PB: 91%, Armour: 0%. Wimpy: 281. Mood: wimpy.
Needed: 751,660 xp, 0 tp. Lauren: 338. Alert: normal.
Affected by:
- sleep
- novoid
- noquit
- imprisoned in no town for 207 days

* W C>look
In your dreams, or what?

* W C>where
In your dreams, or what?

* W C>
You have been blinded!

o W C>em http://www.megagames.com/screenshots/games/Dark_Age_of_Camelot.shtml
Ok.

o W C>em check that shit out
Ok.

### So They Sleep Blind me and Close block all exits and
slay me with 4.  Typical mume fights here btw too,
overkill with block door in closable area *smirk*
Not saying I don't fight like this as well, it's just
that what mume is nowadays ###

### This part here really starts to piss me off tho, waiting
for door to unblock ###

* W S C HP:Bad>l
The Exercise Yard
Numbers the Hobbit is standing here.
Mikrol the Hobbit is standing here.
Antar the Man is here, riding a pack horse.

Antar puts an engraved broadsword in a leather backpack.
The sun slowly rises over the rooftops in the east.
The exit east blurs for a while.

* W S C HP:Bad>
Antar sits down and rests.

Numbers opens the Oakdoor.

* W S C HP:Bad>
Numbers leaves east.
Mikrol leaves east.

* W S C HP:Bad>st

Antar stops resting, and clambers on his feet.

* W S C HP:Bad>
You stop resting, and stand up.

* W S C HP:Bad>e
Entrance Hall
You see two ash arrows on the ground.
The corpse of *an Elf* is lying here.
Numbers the Hobbit is standing here.
Mikrol the Hobbit is standing here.
Exits: East South West.

* W S C HP:Bad>The Corridor
Exits: North East West.

* W S C HP:Bad>w
Entrance Hall
You see two ash arrows on the ground.
The corpse of *an Elf* is lying here.
Numbers the Hobbit is standing here.
Mikrol the Hobbit is standing here.
Exits: East South West.

* W S C HP:Bad>exa corpse
corpse (here) : 
Nothing.

* W S C HP:Bad>e
The Corridor
Exits: North East West.

* W S C HP:Bad>e
e
The Corridor
A pair of black padded boots lie on the ground here.
A short, broad stabbing blade lies here.
A pair of thin cotton sleeves are lying here.
A pair of reddish-brown pants are on the ground.
A fine piece of red-brown cloth has been folded neatly here.
A russet coloured hood lies on the ground.
A russet shirt is on the ground.
A little stone lies on the ground.
A pair of thin leather gloves are lying here.
An orchid of light violet petals blossoms nearby.
A large ring of steel is lying here.
A weapon sheath has been dropped on the ground here.
A great dark-grey horse stamps restively.
A sturdy pack horse is standing here.
Tindomerel the Noldo is standing here.
Nowyr the Man is standing here trying to concentrate.
Fildur the Dwarf is standing here.
Prosit the Dwarf is standing here.
Exits: East South West.

* W S C HP:Bad>The Commandant's Office
A heavy desk, made of solid oak, stands here.
Exits: West.

* W C HP:Wounded>Nowyr leaves east.
Entrance Hall
You see two ash arrows on the ground.
The scalped, butchered corpse of *an Elf* is lying here.
Fildur the Dwarf is standing here searching for something.
Yants the Ainu is standing here.
Tindomerel the Noldo is standing here.
Prosit the Dwarf is standing here.
Exits: East South West.

* W C HP:Wounded>laug
You fall down laughing.

* W C HP:Wounded>
Serini narrates 'butcher'

* W C HP:Wounded>
Tindomerel begins some strange incantations...

* W C HP:Wounded>sa gods took away secretary
comm cries 'gods took away secretary'
Ok.

* W C HP:Wounded>
Tindomerel utters the word 'grzzs'
You feel very sleepy... zzzzzz

* W C HP:Wounded>
You have been blinded!

o W C HP:Wounded>em hilarious!
Ok.

### So after they slay me (For using skill allowed in game)
A god ports down and zaps away secretary so they don't
lose citizenship for slaying me in town.  *laugh*
I hardly care i just think this whole thing over steal
is pathetic ###

### Btw on a sidenote I am hearing a rumour of Gods posting
Peoples accounts or reciting peoples accounts of all chars,
and if people have access to this somehow, that's bullshit.
I enjoyed having some of my chars secret. ###
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Kaldae2000-11-05 01:22:17
Good!
Prosit2000-11-05 01:22:26
I would overkill you with 50 if so! 1000 more times. I would mobkill you 32 times in a row.

And that wouldn´t be nough you prick.
Unknown2000-11-05 01:22:31
enough even.
Anolad2000-11-05 01:23:38
players here rock :)

*cough*
Daevia2000-11-05 01:24:21
Typical of Nazgum.
Complains about people not liking him using "a skill he practices"
but goes on to whine about Tindo and Co using block door to kill
him, a skill that they practices.
Daevia2000-11-05 01:24:47
practices->practiced even.
Tindomerel2000-11-05 01:26:49

Yants did this because the justice system is freaked out, which you are abusing.
Everybody know you steal from them. for example you stole all prosits money the other day so he rented out fullset.

Even though whole society knows youre a thief, you are still welcome in our cities where we cannot attack you without loosing citizenship and become wanted.
If your superb stealskill (that you use to get money for your friends legendhome - by stealing from innocent players, how nice is that?) fails you as worst get imprisoned for a couple of minutes and then you are out again.

That is so wrong, and you deserve it for your ill-deeds!
Scarrow2000-11-05 01:30:51
What would you do anolad, if someone stole from you?
Hunt them down and block them in, if you realize they
are a decent enough a player to be immortal unless
blocked in.
But if the gods removed secretary, that is bogus yes.
Gods on mume are sucking major ass these days
scarrow2000-11-05 01:32:17
If the justice system isnt working, they need
to disable the steal command, not run around
stepping on everybody's biz
Celorfilas2000-11-05 01:32:50
Tindo and crew were acting like queers about this. Good job Anolad.
Nator2000-11-05 01:34:38
you are all nuts!!
why steal from/fight against your 'allies'?
and what was Yants doing? seems to be bending the rules quite a bit there. (correct me if i'm wrong)
Kril2000-11-05 01:34:42
No offence here, but I more or less agree with Anolad. Steal is a realistic skill, and many people make a living off of it alone in rl. So why not the same in MUME... The ainu keep saying that they are trying to put more realism in the game. Hell, I wouldn't object to there being stealing mobs in cities! Just teaches people to be more careful with their eq... so stop your whinning and put your crap in your sables and moneybags!
Prosit2000-11-05 01:40:00
Kril. If you read tindomerel command a bit higher up. If not, Read it. If, Read it again!

If everyone know that there is a thief running around RL. he would be put in jail. If he stole much and all the time. There is lifetime for him to spend.

But this is fantasy. STeal=Death.

Healy2000-11-05 01:50:57
doesn't fucking matter gods can't fucking interfere with game play like that what a crock of fucking shit that is *SPIT* fucking abusing power :p
fucking pukes killed all bree mobs other day and ran fornost so ic ouldn't attack em and i didnt see no fucking gods interfering then wtf is this fucking rl friends bullshit again? you outta be demoted from even being a fucking god god damn fucking cheaters
Unknown2000-11-05 01:51:58
Justice system is not fucked up you dont get watned in ever city for doing something in one city and that's the way it's ALWAYS been but just cause some god sucks tindos cock rl he decides to abuse his power and pull some bullshit
Nepenthe2000-11-05 01:55:21
If a god really did remove secretary, then that's a serious problem. Cheating from upstairs.
Anolad2000-11-05 02:18:32
Well i posted this log mostly cause it shows almost everything
I dislike about mume. Heavy Whining, Overkilling, Trapping,
Gods acting strange, Favoritism, Abuse (Yea i abuse mechanics
some i think).

I fail to see tho, If someone sets awareness on PARANOID
You WILL catch the theif, Tindo caught me first try, Zaber
caught me soon as he changed his. This is NOT difficult,
You see a pthief u set your awareness to max and you PRACTICE
the awareness skill. If you do not wish to do this, don't
fucking bitch.

Instead some people, probably with 0 awareness and alert:normal
get godly help here, when there should not have been. *shrug*

it's all bullshit to me
Daevia2000-11-05 02:18:46
Snicker, everybody bitches about pstealers but if Anolad does it everything is alright. Asskissers.
Unknown2000-11-05 02:48:29
Justice system is not fucked up you dont get watned in ever city for doing something in one city and that's the way it's ALWAYS been but just cause some god sucks tindos cock rl he decides to abuse his power and pull some bullshit
a dog2000-11-05 02:58:22
a *ruf*
Grimble2000-11-05 03:01:30
That is total BULLSHIT if Yants zapped the secretary. I wacked some dude for mobkilling and looting a friend in bree, and I had to do 10 rl hrs in jail for it, and lose cit. Funny how mumegods sometimes use their powers to help for/against ppl that they like/dislike and nothing ever happens. I think he better start zapping the fucking secretary every time someone steals a couple copper now. Its not like the justice system hasn't been this way for YEARS. I'm not saying that Anolad shouldn't have gotten wacked or anything like that, I woulda gladly wacked the dork also, but its bullshit that gods bend rules for some and not others. I guess there just werent enough newbies to force namechanges on so Yants had to do something else to fix his boredom.
tindomerel2000-11-05 03:08:36

i had alert wimpy but someone searched you out
check this,hehe:

"almost everything
I dislike about mume. Heavy Whining, Overkilling, Trapping, "

LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH this comes from player or *Trapgum the Doorstop", who made char anolad only to trap someone (norsu,smrtihlav?)

Matariel2000-11-05 03:12:40
Yeah, people get mad at pstealers, so Anolad died. Big deal, happens a lot.
But having god remove secretary???
Matariel2000-11-05 03:14:08
Oh, and account stuff is bullshit only imps should have access to account info.
Unknown2000-11-05 03:22:32
tindo this log only shows that your a coward and dont think you could handle anolad by yourself one on one :P fucking pussy
Unknown2000-11-05 03:33:14
Only pathetic thing here was anolad. an asshole who justifies his retarded actions with "well i dont care about the game anymore" WELL FUCKING QUIT THEN NOONE HERE WANTS YOU ANYWAY! just fuck off!
Moonglum2000-11-05 03:50:28
There is only one thing wrong with what happened here. That was some god removing the secretary mob. Higher gods should investigate this. The god that did this should be demoted to level 1. It's cheating, plain and simple.
Tindomerel2000-11-05 03:59:25
We(at least I), never asked yants to remove secretary.
I don't fucking know who he is (again, get facts before
accusing people)
but he DID so, because Justice system IS sick. AS I said,
if the whole society knows he is thief, he should not be
welcome in cities and people should be allowed to hunt him
down without being punished (this is not 20ieth century)

And to all you who flame people under unknown, it is pathetically
wimpy to throw shit on others but at the same time not giving them
the chance to reply.
tindomerel2000-11-05 04:01:24

and btw i didnt call the others either, it was just me and prosit trying to take revenge for anolad stealing tons from us the other day.
Aschit2000-11-05 04:01:29
Anolad was being an ass, that is obvious. However, when someone is being an ass you have to decide if he is being ENOUGH of an ass to make it worth killing him. Having a god remove (abuse) justice system is totally pathetic though. If Tindo and co. wanted him dead that bad, they should have killed him, left town, and re-bought cit later. Yes, Anolad was being a 'jerk', yes, he deserved to die. But that doesn't mean gods had ANY right to get involved. If someone 'abuses' the justice system, change it; however, don't abuse it yourself to get revenge.

Why not try this: when someone steals from someone, they get an unseen flag that applies ONLY to the victim of steal (and current groupmates possibly). The effect of this flag would be that if someone suspects they have been robbed, they can attack the suspect. If the person attacked had the 'thief' flag or whatever, the guards would turn a blind eye to the response of the victim (for a brief period of time). If the person thinks someone else is the thief, and attacks the wrong person, they will instead get the full force of the law. This would prevent misuse of the system as an excuse to pk in towns. Etc., etc.
Nepenthe2000-11-05 04:48:20
Re-Tindo

Wasn't he in another town from the one that he got caught stealing in? That society wouldn't know that he was a thief, and would have no reason to treat him as such.
Scrape2000-11-05 05:24:34
Funny how you think Overkilling and Trapping is part of 'everything I dislike
about MUME' when you yourself were partially responsible for creating MUME's
current Overkill/Trap atmosphere.
RE:Aschit - what about getting other people to help you hunt down the stealing
victim, you'd want to let them be able to attack the person as well, no? Say if
you were level 10 and got stolen from by a level 20, you'd want to ask your
level 20 buddy(ies) to help you out?

MUME's justice system has always been total crap, and I totally agree with Yants
interfering like that. I mean you think the god 'abused' the system by
interfering.. well what about the thief who is abusing the system to steal
everything? Just let him get off free like the justice system lets you? I
say burn em.

Hopefully the justice system is soon in the line of things to fix.

Personally I'd like to see more Ainu interaction with players, rather than
having a completely separate Ainu-base and Player-base. MUD sucks the way it
is now.
Nazgum?2000-11-05 05:39:54
Well i posted this log mostly cause it shows how others copy me in almost everything that I dislike about mume. Heavy Whining, Overkilling, Trapping.
Nazgum2000-11-05 05:53:00
I didn't post last comment, But to scrape, aye I think
I was a major contributor to current trap-fade in mume,
but I don't think it's my fault. This is ONLY game
i've seen this stupid "door close trap" thing, and it's
retarded. The code is what let's it exist and the
code should be changed.

Setting alert: paranoid is FLAWLESS way to deal with
pthieves, if you don't know this your own stupidity
and your loss, i still fail to see why some god
should remove secretary on me like that.

(And btw i was resting there when they came, and when
I was woken I spammed Complain on tindo and prosit
to no avail cause mob had been removed, if I knew
god would do that i would not have rested there)
Nepenthe2000-11-05 05:54:26
Re Scrape

A year or so ago when backstab was fucked up, the gods didn't go around zapping people away in mid-stab. They did the responsible things and disabled backstab until it could be fixed. Steal can be "fixed" in the same way (I dont' really think that it or the justice around it needs to be changed). Even if you think steal is overpowered the way it is (which at least one god obviously thinks), there's no excuse for a god to help orchestrate mortal vs mortal retribution. Gods punish by Valing or level/eq loss. Everyone thought that shoot was overpowered a few months ago, but gods didn't directly step in to help mortals kill other mortals who were abusing the imbalance.... they fixed shoot.
Scrape2000-11-05 06:06:56
Well the justice system cannot be fixed by anyone less than Aratar, which is
why people stepped in to counter the abuse of the system by zapping the
secretary, and the system has been crap for years and always been low on the
to do list. This is why people suggest using moneybags and other garbage
in the interim. I do agree that steal should be disabled while we wait for
a fix to the justice system, which seems like it will be a cold day in hell
when that happens. For now, I don't mind seeing gods interfering to get people
out of jail for whacking pthief/pkillers, or, in this case, zapping a secretary
so they wouldnt have to deal with the jail sentences to start with. I am
positive that Ainur would have released Tindo and Prosit from Jail if they did
get a jail sentence for fighting Anolad. It's happened to me a bunch of times,
and gods are usually good about interfering in such cases where the justice
system has been abused by some idiot and the innocent people got shafted for
it, cause everyone knows the justice system sucks.

It'll get fixed sooner or later.
Scrape2000-11-05 06:09:50
In short: Yants removed the secretary so he wouldn't have to deal with getting
people out of jail later on..
Niccolo2000-11-05 08:01:51
Mume's justice system is fine, and I think Yants abused the little authority he has.

Mume's Justice system is like real life. If in real life I steal your wallet while you walk through K-mart you CANNOT slay me. Vigilante justice is not allowed in society. I have no problem with Tindo and such killing someone for pstealing in town... they should, however, expect to pay the correct consequences for their actions.
Ethar2000-11-05 11:17:02
however this IS NOT THE FUCKING 20TH CENTURY WE CAN KILL VIGILANTE STYLE IF WE SO CHOOSE
Fredde2000-11-05 11:20:55
Ok anolad deserved his death, but tindo and prosit and the 2 others also should have been punished with cit loss.

and yants deserves a demote for that action.
Prosit the assl2000-11-05 12:01:03
Rackhir2000-11-05 12:22:03
All fucking pstealers should get mob killed for every gold they have stolen

I mean steal is ok on mobs but not on other players
1.I think yants did the right thing!!!!
2.If you psteal you should not go to jail in 1 min you should be banned from the city till next reboot
3.And you should not be able to seek shelter from other players in other cities
Unknown2000-11-05 12:59:45
Why do people keep saying "in real life blah blah" who gives a shit? this is a game we play for fun. people who just ruins for others and point to real life to justify should, well, get a life.

And saying well the code is like this (like nazgum do) so its not my fault, the code should be changed. it's partly true. its also true that its YOUR choice if you want to "abuse" it and steal. so don't blame the code, the code doesnt steal, you do.
Enforcer2000-11-05 13:18:41
pukes bickering amongst each other again...how boring.....etc
neext
Fredde2000-11-05 13:55:20
i say all kinds of retarded shit, dont mind me
Boot2000-11-05 14:52:33
Well that change-alert-paranoid thing only works if stealer is lower than you, but if you are lower than stealer, than only thing that helps is moneybag... .
If you don't belive me try it out. Of course stealer should have superb skill.

I know that some day I personally will steal all the money from elven jewellers :)
Rydia2000-11-05 15:28:59
Adroniel2000-11-05 15:33:34
Man i find this lame! removing a mob is just not fair! why would it anyway?
as if you can remove your boss from the office like that? *think* oke its a game but this is not fair, Moonglum you are so right! and Naz, this is the life of pukes i know it sucks and i know its totaly unfair! Yants has no right to remove a mob anyway, would it be strange to see someone just vannish? well if it is, then why would it happen on mume eh? some gods really suck i have to admit that!
Rydia2000-11-05 15:38:14
This was not so great eh?
Tindomerel2000-11-05 15:45:52

Anolad stole from manaja when he was mood paranoid and probably 10 levels higher
Elestir2000-11-05 16:41:42
Pstealnig sucks and justice system doesnt treat pstealers properly.
Punishments should be much more severe, like eq confiscation (with possibility of
returning eq to their owners).
Cyric2000-11-05 17:38:26
FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gods interfering like that is the biggest nonsense ever.
If you dont want anything to be stolen just dont put anything in your inventory
and use a moneybag. Fucked up frustrated legends who have to many magical rings to
put in their backpack just SHUT THE FUCK UP
Unknown2000-11-05 18:26:47
What do people think gods are? people who sit at home and wait 24/7 for someone who wants a newbie kit or a need to ventilate some frustration? they are the build who MAKE THIS GAME. they have the right to do ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. this aint no democracy where you whine and scream unfair! unfair! i'll tell my MOM. Either you accept it, or you can stop playing.
Grimble2000-11-05 19:54:19
Hey dork unknown, if Yants was a V+, it would be a different story. He aint a V+ so he overstepped his authority bigtime in this situation.
Unknown2000-11-05 21:11:56
Grimble, what do you know about yants, the level shaper, what he's allowed to do or not to do? Nothing, i guess?
Salmar2000-11-05 21:34:39
Hey, don't come to tell me to not steal from players. Who the heck is so stupid to prac steal just for stealing some money from mobs??? When there is a skill, it's there to USE it. And I agree - put your damn things to backpack. None of my chars has ever anything in inventory, except some worthless shit. And I can't imagine some1 to rent without checking how much rentmoney he/she has. Stop the whining and live on.
baphomet2000-11-05 22:10:52
DEMOTE DEMOTE DEMOTE
Saber2000-11-05 23:31:18
A few things from this log
1. i'm in it. Note i'm no friend nor enemy of anolad or any pstealer, my first reaction to seeing one is to find a closable room go there, cha alert para and put valuable things in a closable item that i wear (pack, sable, etc). In this case i was too damn lazy and decided to make a joke of it. Prosit i feel for your lose it sucks. And if you lost your items because you were in a hurry and rented your character without checking cash you are partly to blame. If however you rented linkless then it sucks bigtime and all i have to say is OUCH. Then again equipment/money is transient (you get some, you die, you get some more). If it is THAT valuable to you, then i suggest you stop playing (i've been there, done that, got the T-shirt). Killing a pstealer in revenge is fun. I highly reccomend it (remember mournblade anyone? never killed him but it was alot of fun to try). But suggesting that you mobkill someone 32 times is along the same lines as sleeping a troll to sunkill him. Get over it, its a game, move on.
2. Anolad did in fact abuse the justice system (which over every other thing in mume at the moment needs fixed) this is somthing that he himself admitted. This justice system has been a royal pain in the ass since before i started playing as i'm sure old timers will agree (i remember a time when every time a crime was committed in bree or a darkie spotted by bree mobs, there was global lag the likes of which some of you newbies can only dream about *shiver*).
3. Yants taking away the secretary could be seen as an abuse of power, another thing he could have done is he could have removed citizenship of all good towns from anolad. However Yants is a shaper and therefore has the power to do as he
sees fit, not as we think gods should act. You guys think you can do better? make a Maiar and work up the ranks and THEN you can start to dictate policy until then stop whining (post ideas, bugreport, and post typos in descriptions, but please stop whining).
4. Nazgum/Anolad did not start this trap fad that we see in mume, he has only become a very good player in making use of mume code (.cz was using this system a loooong time before Nazgum came along) this system really needs to be tweaked
badly (not as badly as justice system but it does need a good fix).
possible ideas for this would range from slowing door movements down, using movement points to actually manipulate a door and spamming a door would tire you out very quickly, removing block/break door spells (1 of my personal favs),
etc. etc. so on, and so forth. I am quite sure these and 100s of other ideas
are being looked at.
And finally.... this comment is too damn long.
Khantar2000-11-06 13:07:33
Demote Fuor for eq-transfer immort->mortal.
Finwë2000-11-06 14:59:15
Fuortest is a test character. Different rules apply.
Gray2000-11-06 15:57:21
1) Death to pstealers. No exceptions.
2) Justice system has been written by gods. High gods can override any rule
including justice rules (written by them). *clap Yants*
Unknown2000-11-06 17:35:45
I am level 24 mage with per 14, 45% or so awareness, and I went on paranoid and checked cash when a hobbit thief previously on warlords entered and stayed in room
cos it was a room that people don't normally hang about it (inside a city though) and the hobbit stole 11 gold from me and then left. I didn't detect any of his steals but
I saw my money going down. And that was on Paranoid, so Anolad, alertness DOESN'T work properly for steal and should be fixed. The hobbit gave the money back when I threatened him with posting the log on here.
Adroniel2000-11-06 21:38:22
Cyric your so damm right!!!!! You should have nothing in inv just put it in packback! or pouch or whatever a thief cannot steal from! don't whine people!
Anolad you are one good player! thiefes are just there if you don't like it just don't play!

Comf Anolad...
Cur2000-11-09 04:11:40
Well I have to say that since gods intervened here when what they presumably
thought was a Great Wrong Thing Dangerous For The Game took place, I expect them
to do so also in all other cases where people are unfairly abusing the game
mechanics. And I can think of 3000 examples of such that the management has not
seen fit to act upon.

I'm all for the gods doing something that is not neccesarily explicitly stated
in the rules to protect the game, but stuff like that cannot be arbitrary or it
will unavoidably become unfair at some point.
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