Heh better yet, I walk downstairs and play some pool.
*wave* all

hihi.. yeah! Life stinks! Have fun, Kreil!

Yea, well suprise suprise, I just got jumped by 15+ pukes myself. *sigh* Wave Bej/gleaming/mda/engraved/and other shit

Con:16
...what the?

Well, **it happens; earlier in day two ordinary troll (one lev 13) trolls killed a lev 31 dwarf who raided warrens in a group of three. If pukes get organised and darkies don't darkies die (and vice versa) That's war.

You're a fucking idiot Plexero. Darkies don't get 'organized'?? As of late there have been 3-5 darkies IN TOTAL logged on at one time. Try organizing that.

At grinder us trolls can't fight worth a thing:
>You assist Grinder.
>You try to pound *Elina the Dwarf*, but she parries successfully.
Is this about the most evil place in the land?! Hello how a bout some
power here?! *Sigh* I guess soon no troll will play, for this one
sided battle is no fun. Perhaps if they placed a few more trolls with
Grinder.....cackle

gosh that looked fun

Hm.. maybe warrens defence needs a boost. At least trolls should be safe at grinder.. *nod self*

Well just give trolls some + in ob and stuff at grinder, like give back old unarmed ob at grinder, and give pukes some - like -10 to -20 in pb and db and ob and stuff. that would make her harder to raid.

Maybe if there were a few more trolls at stair and grinder, it would make it have better defense for these overkill raids

*nod* Moonglum
Pukes outnumber darkies 7-10 to 1, depending on the time.

Sunday morning, 4.00am - total 2 orcs, 2 bns and 2 trolls on, one legend total, on pukeside 27 visible legends, 7 inco legends...

A lot of stuff the management made about trolls makes no sense real life, and its like trying to persuade a wall to move out of the way when getting things changed dealing with the experienced race classes. The most known reason for not "fixing or changing" Warrens or NOC is the fact that darkies are for experienced players (though it seems to be untrue of late, most darkies are just newbie or not totally experienced players).

CON 16?!

And you call yourself Olog-hai?
*laugh*

hmm don't lead with bash when they spaming in nukeing and fleeing

Laugh unknown. You must of been on of those stat rollers before we could pick our own. Of course or were you even playing back then :) There's nothing tough about picking 24/21 and being the rubber stamp troll and no age/stats/eq was going to save me at grinder.

Bunghol ole buddy.. no 'tactic' was going to help against 11. You are correct though in most circumstances.

Probably woulda had a better chance if you sat at mother. Grinder is worthless for repelling raids. She hits hard but theres only one of her, and those grey trolls dont do jack shit for the most part. Plus theres more than one dir to flee so u dont get the ping pong effect.

what makes me laugh about this and previous log is that ginlon and co were calling for MORE LEGENDS COME WARRENS.
*ponder* i gotta ask myself 'why?'

Yawn, we need our nice doors back from some years ago.... and some ob would be ok too.

Bleh, or upgrade the mobs, you can solo a vicious olog at lvl 13, not quite nice defence.

I posted a few ideas some while back, but didn't get much response to them (though Nazgum said a few days ago he liked all of them). Some of them were: Make 2 new rooms, 1 east of Grinder with an old grey troll and a few nasty grey trolls (basically same as grey trolls but more powerful) and a few young grey trolls. My idea was to make the old grey troll a storyteller (I'll happily write some old tales for him to tell). The other room would be 1u from Grinder,
and contain a grey troll mother and a couple of grey troll bitches, with some newborn grey trolls and a roasting pit with a slowly roasting elf in it (maybe one of the grey bitches could go to pendoor at each repop and get an elf, drag it screaming into the room and roast it, a while later a nice burnt elf could be recovered from the pit and eaten (with relish)). Oh, and the old grey troll should pick his nose for some green jelly which could be eaten, and his ears for some slime mold every other tick. Also, I had an idea for a new mob, cavelings, that should roam Warrens. They should be little critters that easily get underfoot, meaning they tangle people running through the room so they fall down, sort of like zblam (maybe as often as you get zblam when trying to ride without ride skill). These changes alone would make Warrens a lot more difficult to raid. And of course, a noblock/nobreak/nobash door near Grinder would make things perfect. Warrens would by no means be impossible to raid, but would no longer be like a revolving door for pukes to play with.

*LOL* green jelly:P Roadkill i totally agree, trolls need a storyteller (not like that pussy Loremaster they got in noc) but making a nobreak nobash noblock door should also be noflee *buahahaha* also, if pukes ever enter Grinder, Trix should come alive and reanimate and kick their asses. As well as elf, grey bitches should also drag some tasty whobbit to pit and start roasting them *drool* If they imped even a couple of these things there'd be a lot more ppl playing troll:P (including me!)