Sorry that you didnt die!!!

Good you dare too enter too bad they sucked at killing you *growl*

laff!!! well that doesnt mean nocdefence is good though =P

try run to noc if it had breedefence! *shiver*

Hehe, rocking.

very nice to see some people with balls playing

I did it!

u dodged/parried way too much! =)

Hmmmm, Insane can buffer that nicely too I think ;)

Cool noc log: http://www.e.kth.se/esekt/org/vrak/mume/logs/citizen.html

Yeah it is no defence at all cos they dont move when u spam at kormock :P and next time please die !

so are those there to stay or someone just feared em up?

Uhm, I would not say that it took balls to do what he did. Why? NSL spams through noc with nearly 0% chance of dying everyday. Did he know there were 8 bodyguards sitting behind crack? No, he just assumed that NOC defence was as shitty as ever and got a little surprised is all. Nice escape, but next time you spam through our caves, be more wary of the lurking dangers! MUAHAHAHAaa. aaaa *cough* ahh...

yah.. nocdeffense rules.. they can sit inside noc and trap ppl and no elites or anything comes.. that is fucking redicolous.. ok if they had been 10+ but they were 6!!!! and for this prick being brave.. yah.. wow.. you have an allmost instalink and you spam past some mobs..

Someone's pissed about dying? *nibble Ze* Don't take it that hard.

Ze you gotta learn how the defense works, if mobs dont see you they dont come, if
they see you they all come.

Ze you gotta learn how the noc defense works.

Sorry doubled pressed it somehow.

Yah, and no matter if Hardon Rangers see you or not, they all come... A pathetic road in the west is better guarded than our caves =p I have seen Arowan spam past about 6 elites in NOC, and not be chased on lick, I think it just plain sucks and needs to be re-worked. Perhaps make Elite orc guards act like Ranger's in the way that they can sense your presence whether they see you or not.

Well... i dont know if noc defense rocks... but Galadon and *dwarf* killed me
afk (when i was getting food rl *pat slef*) at Kormock... and they were alone!.
Sure it cant happen at bree...
:_(

Artigor: The dwarf was glader, and he made you flee back into my 4th quake at Kormock!

Many swedes have the link we have (20-30 ms), yet they never go past the elite
orc guardpost in NOC. Now, I'm not saying that I have balls.. I'm saying that I have godlike areaknowledge and the ability to enter all the way down to Thrakghash (to whom I gave my pbs today though it gave me nothing). Still we can be overkilled at slag if we're not cautious

Well Arowan was on a 200ms link when he did it... he even has log... Mammoth +3 were chasing him as well... NOC is so huge, and not enough mobs that chase solo or multiple pukes (if they are split up) that do any damage. I noticed how lame the defence was when it was You, Zaber, and 2 or so more pukes fighting Naz + some elites at Darktree... even with the mobs and Naz, you still rocked him hard... that should not be happening =p Or if it can, it should be happening in Bree, Fornost, and Tharbad for orcs too.

well noc defence is pathetic, but I prefer it that way, I like
it when pukes enter the caves. As arowan I stayed inside for almost
30 min rl, arriving solo and slaying no defence. Simply ducking
about and spamming from w noc to e. Anyone can do it, but when
player orcs come you can die easy, and it's nice that way.

I personally think it's bullshit the level of defence bree has.
Gh and BM should be fortresses I guess, fornost should be "difficult"
but bree and shire should be a walk in the park. It's a game,
and the title of that game is not: Bree-Gateguard, first blood.

Disagree with Nazgums Bree-ideas. Rest is ok.

"now im not saying that i have balls..."
ok galadon that was a disturbing comment

I promise you his balls are huge, I mean he got Huge hairy balls.

If Siroth is male, I am quite sickened. *puke*

Exactly how long do Everquest upgrades take exactly?

Hmm, missed at least 3 chances to use the word exactly more in the above comment!

The only reinforcement noc defence needs is ME!

Agree with Malak regarding the hardons/noc-defense. Silly that the orcs can smeel
em'pukes but the rangers find darkies with notracks! Downgrade rangers.

Chuckle Rangers find people with notrax? what is that for big BULLSHIT? *LAUGH*

Not that I play everquest, but it is my understanding that they take quite some time... up to 3-4 hours sometims...

if its 3-4 hours how come nazgum is on mume every day? they upgrade every 6th hour, for 4 hours every time!?

Orc mobs can also find people with notrack boots; rangers should not come in
huge numbers to hunt a single non-seen darkie, but they should group up
properly when they hunt a huge roup of darkies they have actually seen. As it is
now, as many rangers come for a solo darkie as come for a group of 5.
As for the bodyguards standing above Monitor, I am quite convinced that is a
bug: they were feared up and never walked back down.

Come on people you can't be that stupid -- rangers were put there because some darkie players insisted on killing newbies over and over again. People were given a choice, but they didn't listen. Now, by the definition, darkie races do not need such protection, since they're not intented for beginners.

Is it really so difficult to grasp?

The way you make it sound Uinen, darkies shouldn't even be safe resting Takhr or Kormock? That is fucking bullshit... alot of puke legends feel safe resting RD... a NON NEWBIE CITY for the most part, why shouldn't there be a place where we can rest in complete safety like them? It doesn't matter how experienced you are when you are afk, you will die just like anyone else no matter where you are.

And to Idun... agreed on the Bodyguard part... I remember it being made illegal to hit demon wolves in warrens and then lure them into cellar... since they can't open doors they get stuck there... I still remember the day we got Ferumbras's mage in there... (though the bastard deserved it after blocking Majesta, Drengist, and Nazgum into warghide at foy... blatantly abusing the fact that those mobs did not see invis =p) Lets just say he had 6 demon wolves on him, and there was no more room to engage him . MUAHAHAHA!!!

It caused them all to mobrip, which he knew would happen btw... only reason i got satisfaction from making him mobrip =p

Btw, that was a cool log indeed on Vrak's page :)

An orc complaining about pukes entering noc should not be playing orc at all i think.
I have still not cought a puke entering past elites post, that didn't die. It
sounds like some of you "orc players" went straight from playing nothing to playing orc,
and from that very moment you though you knew the game and started to call everyone
playing on the other side a fucking puke. Your comments however are unambigiously
interpreted to newbie snaga.

You wanna be safe? Then go to jailkeeper, say "open" and go down. You want it even safer? Go play a whitie.