That mail I wrote is longer than I recall, but point is clear: bns should never write mail except after they die. It seriously is the only safe place for a bn to write. Also, don't you love my power of concentration? Despite my
grave wounds, I never dropped the pen and finished my oh-so-important message!
(Why don't they make an attack take you out of editor?)

*comf Oscar* That really sucks.

I agree, would be very nice to code in a 'drop back to mume' function for people attacked while editing. And Rys, if you happen to be reading this, Oscar was telling you the 100% truth: don't pray to tharbad on low hitpoints. You might get lucky and get away with it, but it's a lot more common for it to lead to even more trouble than you originally had.

There are tons of stupid/unbalanced/unfinished things in MUME, you just pick up one more. It will not change anything. These who play a lot do not manage game, and member of management don't play (cept Petter maybe). It sucks, but we have nothing to do but eat it, hehe. Comf on sucky death tho.

It is WAR. BNS are weak and mean, and SURE they kill everything around more weak than they are

Buwahahah rys is truly a newbie ... i thought i was a newbie before i saw his letter. *comf* oscar...

1st: It is just insane stupid to pray Tharbad when you just died to BN.
2nd: Management doesn't care about _critical_ bugs. So people will keep dying because of bug abusement.
3rd: I've lost my respect to Perim.

Fix line breaks, damnit!

get a client that supports local editing

Really comfort to OM and Unknown in last comment who didnt understand what it was all about, also Perim, very lame done,

comf OM, seems Perim cant kill anything else than like this *spit* after all
it is your own fault since you know about the ppl around ya and yeah - use
local editing and you start a mail and just leave and finish mail whenever you
want - but that is certainly not available for hardcore telnet users.

Is why I edit the msg on good old notepad and then copypaste.

About rys being a newbie i got this to say.
I killed him twice the other day withing a couple of hours and it was amazing.
The first time he was poisoned (blush) but it was when i killed him the second time that i noticed what a complete and loveable newbie that he was. He wasnt poisoned and we started fighting slightly n of tbad. Instead of spamming into the city (anyone should be able to do that) he spams straight east and then manages to get s of tbad, then spams all w (he's not even close to tbad at any time) and ofcourse i find him exhausted and he dies like a rat.

It was really fun and I encourage anyone to teach rys a thing or two about mume the hard way. Sooner or later he's gonna be a new Tindo or Grez and then we will curse him for a very long time.

I want to make it clear I wasn't flaming Perim for killing me. As far as I'm concerned people who are stupid enough to post in tbad (like me) are free game. I was just pissed that I lagged soooo damn hard (I would have eaten stab whether I was posting or not, and likely would have died). Perim wasn't cheating or being lame, etc.; in fact, I have killed there myself once. My post was regarding the nature of mume mail/board editor, not Perim's tactics. Just sucks because I had finally gotten enough decent eq to be able to take on legends again :(

Also, why not make a mailbox available for bns to use that is relatively safe, and accessible without dying? Khuzur and tbad are hardly what I would call 'safe', and we all know what crap warrens is these days. :)

Perim did a really lame thing. What a nasty fucker. Its the same as killing linkless.

Well, I won't call it lame because I would have done the same thing, most likely. If bns had a 'safe' board to use it would be nice though. Maybe at demon wolves in eregion, or somewhere in dunland. If the lag hadn't made my mail take forever, I wouldn't have died I think :P

No! It's worse.

What I hate is that even when I was no longer in the room with the board, it STILL didn't quit me from editor. :P Take away one of the 2x 10 second freezes I had while writing, and I never would have eaten the stab, let alone died. But then again, if I hadn't tried to be nice and reply (civilly!) to a flame mail I wouldn't have died either.

I really don't understand ppl when it comes to saying 'your own fault if you decide to write mail'. Killing mailwriters is just as lame as doing a linkless or afk person. Yes, mail and afk are choices the player has made, but it is still a spineless thing to do. You can get better kills than that, and if not, go learn it on lions at BM, or better yet - grow the fuck up.

what's diffrent between be killed naked and be killed writting on board?

Hey Perim u coulda waited until Oscar ended typing =) *tickle*
Comf OM and yeah if free exp wonders around, kill =P

COMF OM perim commited a low down dirty shame, i cant say that i wouldn't have
attacked a noname bn there but if i knew who the player was like OM i woulda not
attacked, perim was just looking for free wps and i think i've lost alil respect
for him. i dont know what happend with rys but i've done that with chars grino
got me like 4 times in less then 10 mins with a char b4 cause i was trying to see
if i had loot still in the corpse i was lagged to hell but still it only took a bolt
or for him to whack me. oh well its mume its fucked but we are all addicteed!!

Manatark, I didnt say that I say it is good what Perim did nor would I act that
way - I rather wanted to say that it is incredibly stupid to write a mail in Tbad
as BN :) do it in OOC or Khuzur or DT

Isn't there a mailbox in dt?

You know how long a bn thief lives in the mountains? DT is off-limits :) And, to make it clear once again, I'm NOT pissed at Perim for killing me. There are a few pukes I would have spared there, but if it was a noname or someone I didn't know or care for, I would have considered it free game.

That was a really sucky thing for perim to do...

Its called natural selection. It's sorta like mume's way of thinning the herd I guess you would call it. If you are dumb enuff to write a mail at that mailbox, whether you be puke or bn, you deserve to get capped. May as well just run to balrog and take a nap in the lava while yer at it. I would agree that the editor should quit when u get attacked, but since everyone knows it doesn't, wouldnt it make more sense to write a long letter like that at khuzur or something? This isnt directed at oscar, since he agrees that most ppl should be capped in this manner. This discussion has come up before about the same thing. Being afk or writing mail is NOT the same as being linkdead. Granted everyone has to go afk once in awhile, but all you hafta do is drop your link if u have to suddenly go afk, and most ppl will spare you. Writing mail in tharbad on the other hand, thats just plain stupid, and it would actually piss me off that you aren't the least bit concerned about your well being in THARBAD of all places. Of course I tend to be more paranoid than others when it comes to these things I guess, since I have been capped linkdead more times than I care to count. I would cap you instantly if I didnt know/like you and you were writing mail in town or sitting there afk spanking your monkey, however I would not cap you with linkless flag. Wacking mailers and afkers is far less lame than never leaving your hugegroup, or trapping every day, which most people these days tend to have down to a science.

if you have no noquit/novoid, you should be unhittable while writing letter,
and should then reappear in, say, a random place in tbad that's not in a
closable, as otherwise 5 leather smiting warriors could stand in the nearest
rooms and pingpong your ass into the next millenium if they're labbies
(you log on, one in room hits while he yells to others to start spamming,
and pandemonium follows). something like this would be really cool imho...

What would rock even better would be if you didn't have to be in a post office to WRITE a letter, just to mail it. Then you could (as would be realistic) write the letter at a place of your choosing, in relative safety, and then visit a post office to send it off. This would be more rp-ish, and would remove this debate altogether :)

Manatark and Axel you shouldn't flame Perim. If he had posted the log as some sort of brag (instead of oscar posting) then sure a flame would be in order. But If you go afk or write a mail somewhere that you shouldn't, you are fair game IMHO. It's the mume equivalent of a sentry sleeping on guard duty.

Shadrach poison(blush?). *peer* as if u don't do it every chance u get.
That was hilarious btw:)

Nod Niccolo, besides like Grino's speciality is hitting naked ppl praying to tbad, that was no more lame of perim than it is of grino attacking all those naked newbies.(don't ask me why i drag grino's name in here).

comf OM, and Rys be more carefull and never pray back to tharbad with 2 or 3 bns if 1 tehre you have small chance to alive. And perim you lucky bastard we got you sooner or later *sigh*

comon - every BN who kills someone in Tbad goes to pray spot - if you just pray
back to Tbad after death, know BNs are around and dont have a realistic chance
to survice it is even worse than going afk or writing mail there

nah i sometimes hide at corpse.

you shouldnt go to tharbad immediately after dieing , focus tought me that lesson, speaking of which, where is focus? hehe

I dunno I just hate situations in the game, that get you whacked in a totally game-like fashion. After all, we're aspiring for credibility here, aren't we? Eating millions of spells while writing a letter... I dunno. Would it be so damn hard to imp a feature, that getting dmg kicks you out of editor mode? Attacker would still have the sneaking-up bonus.

Letter trap i love it!

afk is choise yes, he is hoping that noone jumps on him - some do, he dies, he blames.

What's the story with Rys Mr. Weiner? His letter was laden with typos and gramatical errors so i couldn't really get a clear view of what happened between you and him.

no, its all lies bns NEVER go back to pray spot to get free xp, its just rumours spread by nasty pukes...!!!

Huh? I'm in my own city and can't do the things I want? GET OFF!

Well, me and 2 other bns were terrorizing tbad and Rys was one of our victims. When he died he prayed back: the first time I chased him but never hit, the second time I didn't even bother to chase. The other bns killed him and I was picked for the flame :) He had a rough day overall I guess, since the other 2 had hit him in eregion, then amanrandil, then tbad as well :)

There is a difference between us dear Om.If I kill naked
enemy,especially if he died to me naked 30sec.ago I do NOT have good feeleing
from that kill.Yes,It's wps,exps.Wps, and Exps are very important for you.But
it isn't my style.
Good feeling is important for me.Simply said,I have good feeling if I do NOT
kill:linkless,afk,lagged,naked,unarmed-(except of trolls),lowlevel,rl drunked etc..enemy.
Someone's motto is>It's nice to be impotrant,It's important to be nice.In war
of races as well.

Hey Juston tell me what other languages do YOU speak except of your native
English?Well,I'ended learning english because my employer wants me to speak
German *shiver* and my english goes down due it.*Comf self*.You may correct my
gramatical mistakes and send it to me.Be sure I'll take lesson from it.

I donno exactly where I ran when we met at Tbad.But 1 thing I remeber pretty
sure.There was rocking support behind your ass.

I donno exactly where I ran when we met at Tbad.But 1 thing I remeber pretty
sure.There was rocking support behind your ass.

Ermh... you call me (lvl 22 or so bn back there) ROCKING support? *cough* Thanks for the compliment tho... :P

Yeah!He couldnot get me.I thougt,he's some midbie.He had some piercer and my defence has been rocking!
Your bolts did mayority in that fight.You rocked there.Do'nt forget I was fainting and I couldn't flee to your spells.That's why.

Oh fucking german? - oh *comf* Rys

Hehe, Rys still picks me to flame, and I'm not even the one that killed him when he prayed back. He was eq'd the first time we killed him, so was fair game. He should know that once he prays back we cannot intentionally spare him (legally) in case some anal V is on. And, when you call someone an asshole or whatever you did when you pray back, don't expect ANY mercy. And, for the last time, flame the ones who killed you, not me :P

I'm sorry for tat accusation then.