Damnit, *comfs* man but really, sto posting those logs,k? Grang is a fucked in the head 12 year old, accept it... mebbe he kills newbies just to get on mume.net so at least someone notices what he's doing?

Pliiiiz someone post a list of p(Grang)'s chars and I will kill them because of RP reasons.

Korf for one

Ehms Right hand of sauron? Gotta be a joke man, u work against sauron u puny joke.

My personal feeling is that same-side pkilling should be outlawed inside NOC. If Grang wants to do this shit outside NOC, so be it. However, killing newbies inside isn't roll playing or interesting. Isn't this the reason same-side pkill was outlawed in the Warrens? It's about time the same stance was made for NOC. It wouldn't hurt anyone except people like Grang who don't have anything better to do. And don't worry, Diam; we'll make sure you can still punish someone for killing the loremaster ;-)

Well Grang is free 100k xp whenever I see him on

Thought you had copped on there Grang. Guess not. Killing lowbies isn't interesting. Everytime you go against a decent player you lose...hmmm what does that tell you?

Korf is NOT Grang.

yes is is azg

grang is Aaz?

Dûrlak narrates 'Grang shall shed blood for me'

i do my bidding :)
and how can you say i lose when i go up against a decent player?
i killed zimar just the other day, i'd say he's decent, and i have 30+
uruks on trophy. i misread this guy's whois, thought it said level 15
*blush* believe me if you want, don't if you won't, i couldn't care less.

Well, you told you didnt do this sort of crap anymore and you only
kill when you have a sold called *REASON*...what's the reasoning on this
one...nice kill btw...he really stood a chance with those 73 hps.

grang is aye

Grang = Norsu :P

laugh, i was chasing you.. and my buffer.. that was lagging like a whore was going down to buffer mobbs.. while he was takin forever.. i forgott to search for a second.. lucky kill grang.. but dont forgett... i killed you after that. and i will kill you more times =)

grang = superpuss....

Im so totally fed up with these phony accusations. Grang is completely innocent and this log has obviously been fabricated. Maybe Grang isnt the nicest orc on Arda but let he who is without sin throw the first stone. From now on i will protect my brother and slay anyone who dares to bare hand upon him. Hear me ROAR!

A stone flies in from the east and hits Shadrach in the head.

Shadrach you talk out of your ass....it takes no skill to kill newbie bns in dark tower or uneqed orcs who just came up from the halls(1 stab)...just ask adorible
Grang is a peice of shit who is my most valuable kill on my trophy...
i hope he mob rips back to lvl 1

Hrm, we complain that there aren't enough orcs online, yet Grang kills all the up-and-comers and deters them from this race. THAT is the main problem. Personally I wouldn't bother with a race when BROTHER orcs attack me in my sleep while I am afk/regenning.

I dont care what you do to Grang. id say demote or bansite him =P GRANG is a wuss he killed my lowbie orc and kept trying to do so! it got me pissed and i quit playing orc! what Shadrach says makes me think...

Shadrach why do you think HE is innocent? look like 99% of orcs knows that he kills sameside, and keeps doing it, dont you think it should stop?! i think it must! the quickest and easiest way should be Bannside!

I have spoken =P

A good idea would be some sort of sauron list for darkies =P

More fun killing them for 100k like someone said. Maybe they keep orcs on their toes, definitely lame though

*comf Edea* dont give up, he just likes to make poor newbies frustrated!

Grang has stabbed many an uruk returning from the halls, still wounded from fighting elves serving the cause of sauron. And shadrach condones this sort of behavour? Where does grang serve such a cause? I've heard poppycock scapegoats, such as he's serving sauron by killing weak orcs. Define weak, popping your head up from halls at HP:Bad> to be stabbed? Grang it's time you role played with the rest of us. Anyone else there have a thought that people like Shadrach side with grang to avoid him? It certainly has come to my mind.

That i would fear Grang? Giggle, i kill him when it pleases me and he licks my boots like a puppy.

Well then Shadrach why condone his actions? I for one have no qarms with grang, but these are problems with grang.
(1) Pk'ing with the ability of the where command.
(2) Taking to victims returning from hall or orcs.
(3) Attacking low level orcs.
(4) Luring new orcs into exping with him, mostly newbies, to be trapped.
(5) Killing players with mob flags, thus resulting in a mob death.
And I've yet to recall an instance where he hasn't used the above...

You forgot to mention 1000ms linked legends that logs on just to see warlords
news etc without client and spells down.