yes, i'm easy to provoke, and nice editing out of all the bullshit comments
that you tossed at me to provoke me further.
Now I'm really very happy that I looted and burned your corpse...b/c being dishonest is the lowest form of insolence.

Edited out my comments? Hmm lets see that exact out of what I saw and what I typed. And you had no right to do what you did, but you wont get punished for it because certain valas dont give a shit and think that anyone can do anything they want. I did nothing to you and yet you still attempted to kill me. I think its sorry someone of your level has to go around killing level 19s just because they are polite and ask you not to kill the mobs they were exping on.

You obviously deserved it.

I would have liked to see the whole story. I find it extremely hard to believe that one of MUME's finest players would do this without provocation. And ut's my guess that it took a LOT of provocation too.

attempted to kill you, no, did kill you, yes...
maybe if idiots didn't go around jumping to conclusions about what I was or wasn't doing and then
spamming me with yells/tells, they wouldn't have to die...
btw...nice whining to all the uberplayers.....*snicker*...its not enough that I run around doing things for ppl in the pk world day in and out that I have to get tells from them
asking why I slew a bonehead such as yourself...next time, leave well enough alone.

Sameside killing isn't illegal, he can kill you for whatever reason he wants to.
All he really can suffer from is alignmentloss, realdeathflag and such, but not for 1 kill only.
Look at grangs victims, has any ever received anything from gods? Nah, same for pukes, especially in the wilderness.
Go hide in a town if your about to be attacked.

Grunge is a dick, but we still love him! *hug*

That Grunge is a bad, bad man. I feel your pain Legolin and I am really glad you shared this with all of us. I'll be sure to avoid him in the future.

Believe it or not that is the whole story, I was exping and i can cut and paste the whole log where i was exping why GRUNGE was the one that spammed me with tells. I yelled 1 time to please leave, and not knowing what level you were or what your purpose was it was justified. Instead of explaining you wanted only the mushroom you come up and think "ooh im big and bad" and thus blind me and then block door. From there I was continueing to be nice and told him he shouldnt do that, its not nice. He replied with a comment i inferred to mean I dont give a shit. So I went on my way where HE continuted to tell me stuff and there i was getting frustrated. Then when he finally come in I was talking to Galadon, yes a good friend of mine. And no I wasnt whinning to him. Then I was looked down on by Nienor, who wouldnt do anything because of a few of my other characters. Looking for the only excuse (war between legends) she refused to consider an appropriate action. So there I leave it...no matter what anyone thinks, the log is not edited and there was no story before this. He wasnt provoked except by my yell which i thought was polite enough. And yes I am disappointed that a player such as Grunge as to stoop so low.

Hmm Grunge hmm i have played a while and never seen grunge start too many problems with people. Let alone kill them. I think i would agree with Shadrach.

Grunge, I'm so proud that I could cry.

I don't find it hard to believe that p(Grunge) is capable of being a moron. Unfortunately his rl accident didn't jostle some sense into him.

Legolin, you obviously believed that you could say whatever the hell you pleased
to a rather dangerous legend, such as "go ahead, if you think I'm running from
a retard like you you're sadly mistaken," in the belief that if the ensuing
fight went badly, you could whine to the gods and get Sethron listed. I don't
think there will be much support for your position. Next time, think before you
pour kerosene on the fire.

You love dicks.. no sense in repeating yourself all the time.

first off, yes grunge has had a same sider, big deal. he is also one of the finest players, and i also agree i've never seen him do anything to cause trouble, outside of his same sider. Nienor is also pretty damn reputable in my book and you did cock off to him, on top of the fact that YOU DON'T OWN THE MOBS IN A ZONE

Honestly I didnt say I owned the mobs, and I was just asking for him to please leave, but instead of explaining his situation (which would have caused none of this to happen) he only went ahead and did what he wanted to do. And to Lowest, I sent that tell because I was getting quiet aggrivated at the time, and no I wont run from anyone, and I dont feel that anyone else would have either.

rock on grungie lips!

Grunge is a wuss!!!

Fine, if you don't want to run from anyone, that's your privilege. But then if you
lose the fight and get killed, what's your complaint? What you can't do is
choose to play in a gutsy mouthy "I won't back down" style AND simultaneously wrap
yourself in the protection of the gods: "tell marajade Sethron is killing me".
I don't think the gods will cooperate.

Hey Grunge you got Grang rooting for you now, think its time you ripped.

We still like Grunge? *snicker* All I can say is that someone with such a thin skin and super inflated ego shouldn't be playing MUME (or loose for that matter).

> Then I was looked down on by Nienor, who wouldnt do anything because of a few
> of my other characters.

Slandering a nice god like me is safe, isn't it, Legolin? Next time you decide to
throw such accusations, you might want to provide some proof in case you hit
someone with less patience.

Rest assured, a character of any player would have been treated the same in this
situation. As was confirmed by the fact that every V+ who read this log supported my decision.

> Looking for the only excuse (war between legends) she refused to consider an
> appropriate action.

Ah, I guess rules (rules sauron in this case) are just a collection of excuses to
allow us not to take 'appropriate action'? And you are of course the ultimate
authority on what 'appropriate action' is?

Damn linebreaks.

Heh :) well first off yelling to someone to please leave isn't 'polite'. Just by putting 'please' in it is not an indication of curtesy while you are yelling. Second, it's better to assume he was doing nothing first.. then if he did start doing mobs why not say heh? You a little big for these.. mind if I finish em off? It's more likely hords of newbies running in to mob areas while you doing them more ofen than a legend.
Course my fuse is a little longer than Grunge's too..so I won't even try and explain him whackin ya.

DO NOT FLAME ESTONIANS! WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY AND HAVE NO FEARS OVER KILLING THOSE WHO TALK SHIT ABOUT US! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

once again i would like to mention, you don't own the fucking mobs! are you entirely retarded?! please leave, i want these mobs indicates you think you own-ie have special rights- to them. so whynot just admit you screwed up, pissed off a good but short tempered legend and payed

hehe, you kinda asked for it by telling him "you think im scared of a pansy like you' or something to that extent, and would be nice to see the whole log, its not hard to see stuff was intentionaly left out/not logged

Ok, I am really sick of this shit. You think that only some words give you right to kill someone? You have some problems in rl that you need to kill people to feel strong? I hate egoists like you who thinks that they are so strong that they can do everything, but only in game, because in rl is the situation different, isn't it?

Actually i think sethron acted like a true 12 year old guy with a small dick....

Stop doing that, will ya?!? People stop playing the game for less than this! Damn.. some of you players act like such babies!

Based on the log only I think Grunge overacted and should be on elbies for stuff like that. But, hey, it's a RP game.

you both suck

Just read the log thorougly and you can see its been edited...

Grunge can be an ass, but at least he is a cool ass...
And since this guy edited the log, there must be stuff
he doesnt wanna show, making me vote in Grunges favour...
If Grunge just didnt smell os bad that is...

*ponder* Grunge, if Legolin was so rude and abusive, howcome you copied the line: Sethron tells you 'legolin yells leave please!' as an example of this. I think that was a rather polite request. If the way Sethron acted in this is ok would it also be ok for a caster asked for a chant/heal/cure or whatever to sleep/blind the one asking, and then start abusing him when he asks why the fuck you did that. If you can do that and get away with it without getting sauronslisted then we might as well drop the list altogether.

Rule number one of a nonlegend player - always be the first to apologize for your actions even when when the legend has offended you more AFTER your actions (you started it, you know), rule number two, keep yer goddamn mouth shut :P

indeed looks like two guys with small dicks trying to prove theirs is bigger. I guess sethron's was bigger, he won.

Legolin you whiny little crybabywhore. Instead of spamtelling random gods for
help, what about focusing on getting away? Would you have done the same thing
in RL? If yes, then its darwinism at its best.

This is bad, you are killing my pukes... and not for Sauron. If you feel angry, do like me, logg a darkie and start messing with snagas!

Methinks Sethron has slightly less tiny balls than Lingolin or sumptin', but I'd love to see what had happended if *Forin*, a fine dwarf, had yelled and said the same as that scrawny Linoglin did.
Bah! Sethron should pick on someone his own fat size :)

well i can se you thought he was fucking with ya grunga but the thing is that he ASKED ya and you misunderstod him. i have seen planty of people who go and kill yer xp so i woudla done the same thing as he did there

hahahahahahahah SETHRON was xping gh at lvl 39 LOL LOWLIFE!!!!!!! neeeeeeeeerd come blow me ARSE!!!!!!

BM-Bree is only useable for xp as legend... Lowbies miss kills coz legends spam faster.
On the other hand, dont offend legends, they tend to be well, legendlike. Only true XP place for lvl 10-20 is noc :P

Nah Grunge always sucked dicks. Just for the fun of it, i'll see to it that every chance i get to kill him, he dies... Don't wonder who i am, cos u will know it sooner or later.

Learn how to not pick on legends, Legolin. Esp on such proud and horny as Grunger :P

*comf* Legolin - yes some players are like this one :(( so k him with ur legend
and then tell him that he sould know u have higher lvl and he shouldnt disturbs
ur lower lvl ;-) - eh, act according rules of this game... :((
btw anyhow this game is full of stupid arogant teenagers and u cannot take
seriously their behaviour...

WOW! with all this talk about legends having all of this powerful
seniority and how people shouldn't mess with them because they will be more liable to kill you
well let me just say that people have talked all kinds of shit to me but i NEVER
would kill them due to the lack of maturity it would take ooh yea GREAT LOG *PUKE*

Well its fun to read some comments.... how a rpg games turns to a discussion about size of dicks.. age etc ... well have fun.....

grunge is officially a fucking loser. next time he in my zone......HES STABBED!!!!

Fucking boring, don't fuck up legends like Grunge with such bullshit.... still I think it is childish to kill such a dork but ok....

Nothing against Forin, but give Grunge Forin's link and I'd take Grunge in a fight. As for Estonia, its not so bad, Tallin has its cool places but it really is the ugly sister of the Baltic States.

Like 12 year old Estonian ?
Well, as much as i know 12 year old mud addickts don't play MUME in Estonia

Funny story, this warsword-wielding lowbie called "leagal" spit in my face in tbad, and shortly after, he died. His buddy who was shooting at me looted the warsword which i had intended to keep until he apologized to me--he also died when he refused to turn over the sword. I went Shady to talk to Namo who dropped in...meanwhile Siroth came in and blocked the door---Namo says "siroth will handle this" and leaves me to get wasted by siroth. Oh well Shady got the warsword, & 2 teen punkasses learned not to spit at dwarfs with big axes. But damn that's why i dont play puke...people can spit on you and you are expected to not beat them into the ground (namo spoke of listing)

grunge is a big piece of shit. he totally reminds me of slayer when he talks to his group. slayer used to use narrates to vent off his steam, grunge uses say/tell to show off his stupidity in mume

I have to say right NOW that relim and grazam acted the same fucking way when i was nice...
I feel very sorry for you

Grang YOU SUCK!
Sethron YOU SUCK!
Shadrach YOU SUCK!
Shadrach you and Grang always had some relationship... i think u both are gay. and as for Sethron, being evil isnt bad, BUT keep out of GRANG-style kills!
This does mean that your a level 39 NEWBIE! fucknut! ok im evil to ya know. but i DONT kill any players at all! people like you suck!

Legolin if you need help or so tell me ok? *comf*

Amen brother

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Lots of newbies talking about shit they don't know here, making threats etc.
Lefali: Grunge can be pretty arrogant i suppose, but he is neither stupid nor a teen.. Hamfist: Why are you signing your own deathwarrant? Don't let me hear about you stabbing any of my friends unless it's a fair fight...
And about exping in GH/BM as legend, Amon Othar, Nagrorh and Azaghal's tomb is decent exp/money/eq (such eq that are referred to as legend-eq for some reason, how does all this add up?). And when you don't feel like getting into pk, perhap cause you are idling a bit, have poor link etc. Can also load useful stuff to give away to slain heroes and lowbies that don't whine about a legends presence. I myself don't totally devote myself to playing MUME all the time I'm logged in.

And those whining about a legend being present at all around GH/BM should just be shafted with some spiky metalclad object the size of a flagpost. Or maybe they never played dwarf to figure out that mending and renting is cheapest in BM, as goes for elves in the elven towns.. If so, consider yourselves educated.
I'm getting pretty fed up with alot of the ppl on MUME, but then again i like some, so I won't just quit. But I'm about to go insane cause of all ppl spambegging, asking shit that's none of their business, etc.. So if I ignore your tells, either i'm busy, afk or would rather whack you than giving you anything or helping you, don't ask me twice, and don't ask about my reasons for declining, I'm not here to satisfy you.

My diagnosis: You both overreacted! And Nienor was right not to do anything, as the blame should be split fairly equally.

Ok, lets just ignore, I was wrong to even post this shit here. Yes I was wrong in several ways, and I should have just ignored him. But the ONLY part of the log that isnt edited is the spam from room to room, the exp spam, and 3/4 of the fight spam. I have nothing to hide and never will, and I do admit I shouldnt have been so hasty to demand him to leave as he was ONLY there for the mushroom. Yes I am sorry to Grunge, and PLEASE dont let any more flaming going on, because Grunge is a good player. Lets leave it at that.

Your calling me Brother Aggressive Joe? *blink* oke then =) Trust me hehe =)

Adroniel i am not your brother nor do i wish to be in any way shape or form be realated to you. i was just agreeing with your comments earlier

I was just grabbing the green sickly mushroom....this thread is way longer than it should be...
I have apologized to Legolin and will requip promptly upon his return to Arda.

grunge, your level of stupidity is much higher than it should be

Legolin got *exactly* what he deserved, fucking xp whore.