I talked some to Bludgeon - I still have problems understanding some parts of the log which he was responsible for - but while talking to him for quite some time I start to think that he might be okay after all. So if you planning to kill him it would be perfectly fine regarding that log, but well - probably it was just some bad day, some bad thoughts or whatever. I experienced kinda the same myself playing some other char who was blamed to be a linkless killer (I didnt even kill) which I am surely not, but well, after looking at the posted log I have to admit it really looked that way. Nazgum killed me for that (Naz, I was already slow from getting tps - if I had gleaming, two draughts and good mps you would have had quite some time killing me) I even mobdied while trying to get my corpse cause I was fuming RL and RL int turned down to 0 so ah well - after all I guess I deserved it. Still I favour darkie-darkie justice since I still think most darkies are the more experienced/mature/addicted ppl who can take care of themselves and as long as ppl like pNazgum, pDiamonium, pTairach, pMochomurka and pAsmodeus are around I feel secure that some balanced justice system exists. All of those ppl have their faults - some more, some less - but they together with others (thinking of pVanimelde, pBootyho whose I dont really know - I forgetting all troll-only-ppl here since I play BN for a really short time) are able to keep up some MUME atmosphere which is unique and not compareable to the puke side. Well, I might be forgetting some key-ppl here since I am still kinda newbie to MUME, but well I just judge from listening to narrates and meeting ppl who are kinda always on. Ok, reflecting to current Smrtihlav (<= still cannot spell that name) and Gravesh problems I have to say that I strongly believe they would not do anything to hurt the mume-darkie-atmosphere - I didnt experience those action hunting days so there might be prejudices left - I only grouped with them like 1-5 times so far, but still think/know they are some super ppl and it would unbalance war a lot if the would be forced to leave. Dont want to get into that a lot farther myself. Okay, I somehow drifted away some, but I think Bludgeon is okay after all. good night minions, Girando