i only seen mestan linkless once in this whole log and the 1 time merlin found him linkless he cancelled his spell. the only thing merlin did wrong was acutally talk to vargas. just proves how much of a moron vargas really is

Looks like a perfectly legitimate kill to me too.

Looks like that to me aswell.

my client wasn't up 1 second of the whole fight
cause everytime i reconnected it went down again
etc etc, i didn't get flag exept the first time

well, if you see someone reconnect they are probably having link problems, and to continue hunting them after that is kinda lame. Most of the true non-linkless killers will yell and ask if link ok before they continue to hunt.

well manaja and co got hurolg linkless also today. he was healthy and with 8 draughts and flag. to the lame asses couldent keep from killing!

You know what's funny? He's bitching about being killed "linkless" but he sure as hell moved pretty quickly. Usually when I'm linkless and my client isn't "up 1 second of the whole fight" I'm not able to run about 50 rooms.

looking at the log, doesnt it seem like vargas and mestan are cheating? vargas got info from mestan (cross race) about a kill (mestan's). damn labbie whores should all die a slow death!

Unknown can first tell his name, before that i doubt ppl will even listen to you

What a whiner. If his link was so bad, how the fuck did he manage to spam half way across Arda? Admit it. You got beat.

i agree with unknown

Well I understood it like his client died everytime a *man* enters room, something wrong with settings :/

Well, after reading Nazgum's comments, I decided to give the log another look and revaluate my opinion. I actually went through and counted; the Dwarf with no link had to be tracked after 51 rooms :-) For someone whose link couldn't stay connected, he sure moved around a lot :-) For my reference only, can anyone tell me the name of a client that moves you around when you aren't connected cause I could certainly use one from my shitty ole American link? So I stand by my original statement: good kill :-P

Ahhh...one of those lines should read: "...the Dwarf with no link had to be tracked OVER 51 rooms..." Sorry.

Merlin isnt a linkless killer:( And Nazgum, maybe *Dwarf* should of yelled 'laggy' or something? :)

That sure looked like a clean kill to me. I don't even see where he lagged, after he walked out of a TON of spells. I spare Relim linkless w/o flag today, myself. I ran out of big priest fight due to nasty freezes and lag, and saw Relim standing (got suddenly notice, so I thought maybe he failed a hide too) I stabbed him, but he just stood there, so I asked if link was ok then I left. Aren't I such a nice guy? I didn't even look to see what eq he has.

BTW, how come someone with a link as bad as mine (worse at times, better at others) pk almost exclusively ford/warrens? He puts a LOT of faith in people not killing him like that :)

This was a fine kill, and to anybody says that it isn't I laugh at.
*WHINE* my client fucked up more like you suck byatch

Smells like crossrace to me.

Well, i want play dwarfie too ... Couse my mage (vasilisa) usualy die in 7 seconds freeze from healthy with all fresh spells up. And this can heppend anywhere. For me it was always in open terrain. To stabber, to 4 orcs, to 2 bns and so on :( linkdrop cant help then, but i cant say thouse people were linkless killers. The only person i will kill linkless EVERYWHERE is Courage.

In the case of Vargas vs Merlin, we find Merlin "not quilty".

Re: fredde's comment above. If Hurolg died linkless he fucking deserved it cause that bastard killed and looted my lowbie orc at takhr. The kill i got no problem with, its that he looted my eq that pisses me off. Im gonna get his ass when i come back. *nod self*

Nice to have you back Merlin, and it didn't seem to be a linklesskill to me either.

last time I found 2 trolls linkless (raichu/overt) and they had my equipment from recently slaying me,
they dropped link b/c sun was near....so we are standing there looking at them and I am thinking kill the fakkers...
but pElestir wouldn't let it happen b/c they were linkless Nazgum...so what do you do when fucknuts drop link on purpose to avoid pk/sundeath?
and then make off with a fullset of legend loot later????? I tell you what I do, I don't give a shit anymore, if you are linkless and I was hunting you, you die.

Because others are playing dirty, doesn't mean we have to ourselves. It's much more fun just to enjoy the game and take things as they come in stead of holding grudges and worry about what other people do. Just my two cents.

Well only an idiot wouldnt drop link to avoid sundeath.

hey, i would have been ok with getting killed linkless like that.. but only because i dropped link on purpose.. but i think its ok for trolls to drop link at sunrise.. im sry i had to do it.. but sunrip sucks, but i got what was comming to me.. sunripped like 15 mins later so..

Hehe, "not quilty"... well i don't consider u guilty or quilty concerning this silly kill :P

No he is not a linkless killer. He waited for reconnect then retracked him. He was riding a pony. His moves coulda been low. Hell maybe the dwarf was dropping link to look like he was having link probs cause he knew he was dead. notice he was solo and at the end someone shows to help out. He did call for help it seems. He did a pretty good bit of running. I say cool decent kill. I have died flagged and linkless and not asked people or narrated myself about it. As Nazgum said though, a "true" non-linkless killer, a person more moral than ... well anyone i know on the game, would have backed off, or yelled. His friend, that other puke coulda yelled though.

There is one thing i can't quite understand. Some of you say that bad link(lag)
equals linkless when it comes to pk. The different players on MUME have a link
speed span from 10ms-900 ms+. A guy at 10 ms would find 900 ms VERY laggy and
some would probably consider an eventual deth as a bad link death=linkless death.
Now my question is, at what link speed/% packet loss, do we consider somones link
so bad that he must be spared? My opinion is that there is no way to say if this
guy consider his link unplayable or not unless he tells you to. Thechnically you
can spare a normaly very fast linked guy from norway with what he considers a lag
at 500 ms, just to kill a 700 ms linked guy from australia the next minute just
because he considered that link to be of his normal standard.
Bla bla bla. don't know if i said what i wanted to say but i got tired of typing. :)

Nice kill, Merlin =)