What was that place, and comf too

Who cares, mume can fuck off for a while.

Change the damn ranger muddle. Christ I have problems with them as an orc warrior, I can't imagine what it must be like for a bn on any sort of a poor link.

looked like green by fnost

no no no, dont change the muddle - rangers have to protect the newbies, lowbies and whateverbies - please dont whine - rangers are there to help! actually rangers should be improved some, so that pukes can xp down greenway, better till tbad without darkies charging them - we have to protect em - AND remove wild dogs at GH :p

Axel, plz stop reading ainur board, it seems to be bad for you :P

This fuckin sux...

I say I can not exp my newbies without rangers! So IMPROVE them! They need a true fast leader like Glorfindel

Let's make MUME an even bigger arcade game - that was always intended. (irony off) If you're not content with 70% of MUME as pk-arena I don't know whats wrong with you.

Did you know there was a chance to encounter rangers there? Whose the dumb one now?

Rangers instahit its fucking boring for bns if all players say tone em down why don't vala listen?
Chuckle

And btw where was this area=)

as was told in news they improved rnagers temporary and removed maluses in bree zone, and in other citys, so, bring things back ;) or make Axel lead rangers (to DT hopfully :>)

sorry Roman, dont wanna lead rangers - you know how much I like uber-grouping :)

The real _bug_ here is spamming "flee" and ending up where you started. "flee" should make you run _away_, it shouldn't be brownian motion!

Well, its my understanding that for a BN to be effective in pk, he needs the element of surprise, a good link, and usually to outlevel his opponent(s). Since any legend puke with a grain of skill should be able to total the best bn alive, I would think that the bns would primarily pk on rtf->gw. Throwing rangers into the mix makes this very difficult, so unless you want portal-whoring bns leading 10 trolls to traps you should recognize the situation.

You're doing quaketraps on rtf and want our pity when it fails and you die to rangers? poor poor trapperwhore. better do all them traps by tbad instead. and malak, your thought that bns would primarily pk on rtf-gw, whats that based on? i'd say rtt-tbad-eregion myself, but, uhm, i dont play bn so what do i know.

namo has a point

but comf stormblast, ive died that way too, it really sucks

This area is off rtf where an exit w and then w leads to a room n with spirit
in it. its pickable door.

Bn's have to kill lowbies/midlevs becuse there aint nothing else they can even harm a bit... sure, scouts in a quaketrap, but thats like... it! this new RangerwalkALLoverarda shit makes bn very close to unplayable... (if your not a portaltrapwhorebn ofcourse)

This warrants a *comf* stormie so *comf.*

Iam about to make on of them troll transportators! BEWARE!

Is anyone here so naive as to believe that so many darkies eat ranger deaths because they are too clueless to figure out the danger? The reason they are there is pretty simple: the 70% of Arda mentioned above is great for pk only if you like hugegroup killing or being killed by a hugegroup. If you want something other than that, you aren't going to be particularly happy. Hugegrouping has trivialized mume pk to the point where skill, character design, area knowledge and equipment are all secondary to the most important skill of all: joining in a bigass group led by a superlinker. If you aren't a member of such a group, you're just an future entry in the trophy list of someone who is.

Ain't war hell?

sucks ... *comf*

rangers ruin many things in this game :(

Bah.. I wouldn't have a problem with that if a huge group of Players..got him. At least there is a chance for human error which is consistant with 'war'. I see no war where there is 'zero' chance of mistake by your opponent.
Course I don't play puke anymore, however, when I did there were no hardons patrolling and I don't recall being 'overwhelmed' by the darkie presence. Though I guess it might be needed.. *shrug*

That is sad, Rangers have serious flaws immo. I really feel that someone should think of recoding them. Its bad enough they trap, and overkill. Whats next they going to poison and bash? The city of bree in all the tolkein books was always invaded by the Nazghol, and the Rangers were few. In the game, rangers are overpowered and overpopulated. Maybe keep it to where 4-6 max patrol the area. (2 on rtf, 2 on greenway, 2 on oer east of bree, and 2 on oer west of bree).

lol rogan at least he has the balls to fight solo what do you do?
get 5 level 50's and run around pking with poisons,
takes a lot more guts and skill solo pking like he does so often then you have so shut the fuck up.

1.rangers dont save newbies from me very often, they just make it damn hard and boring to fight breelegends that are hunting me 2.Never seen Labero slaughter pukelegend warlords on 1 on 1? It is possible.

Namo is right on the money. Sharan, Labero has what most dont have..a great
link. There is nothing wrong with ranger code, it does what it was meant
to do. If your solo and you go bree/forn thats the chance you take. Someone
talking about bn's unplayable - *LAUGH*. Try solo pkilling with a whitie
thief and taking him noc and see how long you last without draughts. Stick
with your mega-powered puke mages and talk about more shit you don't know
or actually challenge yourselves. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

Rangers around Bree should have the horn thing at rivendell, only be released at certain times

Its odd to c u guys "bn-warlords" complain about rangers. Im sure game would be
quite dull if u could raid unhindered on rtf and around bree.

Hmm, I actually don't have to be the voice of 'Reasonable thinking' (for once) most of you pretty much have used your brains instead of your ass (well a few of you at least). Anyway I really don't find anything wrong with Rangers because if your going to West you are putting yourself at risk to ripping, So its like signing a contract if you rip its your fault no one else's (well this applies in most cases) and Rangers make it challenging. The one thing I don't like is that Rangers hit like Mini-Trolls, which should be changed. But to compromise this they should hit a lot (but tickle, or barely) but be hard to escape from or to cast at. Its hard enough to be a puke these days because there's always 40 overkilling dorkies standing OERMGW or a couple of bns having an orgy in tbad or lame Norsu running around with his butt buddies and poison etc. etc. So basically you want to change/get rid of the main and pretty much only defense the west has??(when legends aren't on or wont go out side bree)*Stare* I suggest some of you people rethink this a little more if not 2 or 3 times - Common Sense

I hate to see anyone get mobkilled. That being said, the harsh truth is that as
long as there are BNs who say "our main occupation is going to be to hunt
lowbies and midbies between Fornost and Morthan," there are going to be Valar+
who will say "we have to create more and stronger rangers to deter the BNs from
hunting lowbies and midbies between Fornost and Morthan." Sorry, but MUME was
not designed to be pk everywhere from the Brandywine east. It is not intended
for everyone to have to hunt in the Blue Mts until they are level 20. As things
stand now, it is throwing one's life away for any whitie to go solo into a closable
east of the Brandywine unless you have enough hp and ob to whack the BN
who spams out a block and four stored quakes. There is this notion that things
were wonderful for you minions back in the old days before evil gods created
hardened rangers. Well, I remember the days when a level 14 could hunt smugglers
off the Greenway or spirits in the spirit castle or bears up by the wild weeds and
it wasn't an act of insane recklessness. For that matter I remember when you never
had to worry about stabber orcs hiding on the Gulf of Lhun and stabbing dwarves
outside Thorin's gate. Things are tough all over! Listening to these complaints
about the awful rangers, I get just about the same level of sympathy I would get
listening to some whitie legends complain about how hard the mob trolls hit
in the caved-in tunnel or how they got whacked by orc mobs while trying to
get their daily pbs.

BTW I like shovel raids. While the pros fight it out around the tunnels for a
couple hours, everyone else has a chance to xp! :-)

Make more rangers and make them harder so more bns come back and play their trolls!

Yes sloshed you're absolutely right, i could never kill anything alone, i simply suck too much. Now that we're past this bit of often repeated and very common knowledge, why dont you tell me what's so brave about storequaking? I just can't get it. Would i be considered brave if i store-quake trapped people on rtf? Or if i store-quake-trapped people near noc? I just don't see the fun of it. I think i rather be the idiot loser i am and have fun playing with friends instead of running around alone and be bored.

well, bns are not that hard to play, its just when the armor drops, then u die =)...thats kinda harsh, gig
about storequaking, as bn its quite brave to go quake a group, not talking about 1vs1 or 1vs2 etc...

FUCK IT, *comf Stormblast*. My downfall was even more pathetic: freeze and then three pages of hardon spam, and hidden island... from 5th to 10th. Petrel, every level 5 puke with a clue can escape bn really easy, if he lived first spell and has a semi-decent link to spam away, so don't tell us about poor innocent whities, who cannot xp in peace

Rogon, please don't comment playstyle of bns, since you never play them.

Rogon, dont comment playstyle's cuz yours suck *thats more like it*... HMM.... perhaps i shouldnt comment playstyles, cuz i dont play tho *thinks loudly*

Everyone who doesn't agree with the "common" idea of fun are lamers or suck horses ****. And someone said that a stored teleport will help while going gw/rtf - get _some_ knowledge before commenting please. Comfort to Stormblast dying like this - but you ain't a true bn till you've died on hardons or, as Labero once said, teleported to a dt/"mob-dt". ;)

Sense the irony in my 1st sentence!

oh yeah, what is CDME? :P

Astar: How does the level 5 bash his way out of the blocked door?

Blocking self inside somewhere on rtf is plain suiciding. Overkill group will come in 5 mins. _Rare_ bns do it

hmm Stormblast died from his stupidy (at this moment) i was on him from old fornost and he tyied trap me at rubble . then at farmer near fornost and finnaly at green, all time he has rangers on his ass. so if he fough that i let him block me inside and qauke he was wrong so he died. (ranmgers comes about 15 sec after me so he has really low time to do it. btw stormblast play style rocks

hmm Stormblast died from his stupidy (at this moment) i was on him from old fornost and he tyied trap me at rubble . then at farmer near fornost and finnaly at green, all time he has rangers on his ass. so if he fough that i let him block me inside and qauke he was wrong so he died. (ranmgers comes about 15 sec after me so he has really low time to do it. btw stormblast play style rocks

I am always pleased to see Rogon that I bring out the best in you :). You used to be a blabbermouth with a nice sense of humour, now it's just a poor blabbermouth. Lothlori, please believe me, that I don't need any stored spells to kill *you*, all I am asking for is a place where none of us would have the chance to run to safety or worry about 100 instahit mobs. Is it too much to ask? To sum it up - I had no other stored's up besides *one* fireball which would have been quite enough. Thank you for your time.

Oh and Rogon think of something niftier than saying "I suck but I have fun sucking, he sucks but he doesn't play like me, so he isn't actually having fun, so he's just sucking without having any fun, so he must REALLY suck". We know that guy like you just needs an audience to pk with, that doesn't make you less of a *khm* extremely cautions and *khm* well prepared (in a sense of leaving no ends loose, quantitywise) pker. So... last time I did release 5 quakes was in Tbad when a puke backtrapped me with quakes... and he died. What are you doing anyway commenting logs that include a player vs 7 instahit mobs with low defense and no buddies to back him up? It's not like you'd understand things way out of your league.

I am not done yet :). Why do ppl generally think that bns roam Gway-Tbad just because they want easy kills on midlevels *stare*? Maybe it's because it is impossible to find ok fights elsewhere? Sure, you can be a bob/portalwhore for Warrens groups, but outside, all you meet is groups of 3+, so what's the point of just finding pk to start fleeing and running for camping? Sometimes I wet my bed when I have this nice dream about solo legends that I could pick a fight with, be that at Noc, Ford or GH. MUME is a game where you have to choose between utter boredom or extremely dangerous situations, and increasingly so.

hehe so your proud killed you, ok trusdt me i want to find you in the same place when you cant run / port to safe spot. hmm it iwll happen sooner or later.
and i agre that tahrbad is mostly best place to find nice fight without fuckin spammers. You always caunt on me if you want to fight some 1vs1.

Have I suddenly caught a bad case of dyslexia, or does Lothlori spell REAL bad? All your traps are belong to us.

Heh, I met 4+ hardons while checking Malardil. They spanned out in the maze forest
at Malardil and all my flees ended up bringing me back to them :P
I think I will try running to GH with Adi next. Might be safer than rtf :P