Laugh, Surge is a dead man.

Surge is Grang, the gods claim "THIS" is roleplaying character seperation. It's fucking bullshit he does this as EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER. But they don't want to bansite him, sure they demote a very fun nice player like stormblast for abusing a very gray rule about cross race info, but people like Grang are welcomed, encouraged, and PROTECTED by the gods. I sent log of this asshole cheating via char sep, but I've yet to see him demoted, and I am still threatened by gods I will be demoted if I attack his others chars. How fun.

Well, I stand corrected, he did kill someone

hey fuckface....nazgum....if you think i am grang, you are wrong. Actually, P(Grang) is pissed at me because i told the gods of what he did, so don't think i am Grang. ...and no...surge is not a dead man...... ... . ... ..

Aha! I am invincible!

P(Surge) is grang, I guarantee it, he has a distinct style of asshole
that is easily recognizable (And don't forget the dropping link when
legends start chasing him, which I'm almost certain is illegal, yet
he has done it 20+ times just running from nazgum)

Surge is my hero!

so, because i happen to sameside pk i am automatically p(grang) huh?...you mume people make me sick. Nazgum, you are the asshole for telling me I am someone who I am not.

People who same-side pk are either hilarious or pathetic, depending on how you look at it. I mean, mudding is pretty much near the bottom of the human social ladder as it is, and same-side pkilling is at the bottom of -that-, so you have to give a certain amount of credit to a person who's that determined to be an utter and complete reject of a human being.

this guy is just pathetic, cant kill enemies and now he is trying to whack sameside low-lvl characters. *yawn* death to Grang, Zoone, Yanwe and Surge!

Deaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

ROFL @Vorlin =) And Surge, don't be so sure you are invincible... no-one in invincible. If I see you as any character that I happen to be playing, you will find out how mortal you are... Oh, and the name Grang instantly popped into my head as well not even 1/3 of the way through this log =p

It hasnt to be necessarily Grang - just some ppl found to be interesting
sameside pk. There should be some better low then sauron list - it's joke. And when u cant even help to kill that person - so what can u do? (Btw I think that
it's rp also try to kill grang so what problem with it?) Its problem of God's
management I think. And yes I agree with Koljat - they prolly sucks in pk.

And btw isnt it player of Shadrach? He has sometimes such stupid jokes...

it's Grang, that is his "Style" of slaying lowbies, always, after
seeing him play, reading a few logs, then seeing this I can spot
it so easy. Bansite him christ, he's just a worthless worm wrecking
fun for Many, MANY players.. And I bet right now mume has lost at
least 5 players because of grang, And I don't know who these 5 might
be but i guardantee I would rather have any ONE of them here then
Grang. Wish gods could see it that way

Surge is my hero! But seriously i agree with Naz.. If a player is driving ppl to quit mume they are nothing more then sad grief players and should be banned.. nuff said.. Then if NSL makes ppl levae youir just suckers who cant take a death =) Atleast we done sameside pk... to often...

hay... take me out there. i got quicker hard hiting bolts.. we can chat a little.. a very little.. its funny you pick on newbies.. but you try that with someone who can defend there selfs .. your a dead man.. maybe i shouldnt say this.. because i wana group with ya now.. wink wink..

Surge is Grang. Kill on sight. Remember when he denied being Zoone too?

Methinks it's Mournblade who has risen from his grave to pester us pukeskins once again.

heh here is log, now we all have rights to kill character Surge.
I will prac charm after retire. My list of enemies got seond record.

Sadism shouldn't be encouraged. When you meet crossrace char, you know he is going to kill you if he can, so no probs here. But when you exp with sameside race char, and suddenly he's starting to whack you - it brings much more negative emotions that death in crossrace-pk fight. Too bad we can't kill p(Grang) in rl - seems there are no other ways to stop him. I once almost got morgulvaled for picking on Korf - due to well-known stupid rule, so whacking all his chars is troublesome work... Maybe keep posting on every board about his chars/doings, so every newbie will know about not to group with him? //paragraph// To Arhar: SECOND??? Forgot/didnt know about Strine/Yanwe, and pstealers Docstrange/Delegat/Shashakar/Fionwe/Spicz??? Blja, ty by u menja na secured page pochasche smotrel players list, a? *growl*

Ah poor Bruenor, you brought back nasty memories. Although I've delt with Mournblade by tipping him off, he has been known to try and slice my throat whenever I turned my back. Ah, the days smelly Bruenor, the days ...

great comment Vorlin.

wasn't it mr Acheron that used hes immo to see where darkies were and then logged on mr thief and stabbed em?

why the fuck do you all think i am grang because i same-side pk?..maybe there are more than 2 people with the realization that mume is gay and boring without same-side pking....alright bye

and if you think you're actually gonna kill me, HA!..you think I am gonna actually go back on anytime soon with Surge? Eh? Eh?..... AHA! I am invincible!!

rotfl, this is NOT me. i applaud whoever it is, but he is most definitely
different char from me. nice kill surge, keep up the work for sauron!
ps-he SHOULD be listed, i hope he is :)

You rebel scum!

THANK YOU Grang..finally...maybe someone will believe i am not you...lol...oh..hey mr. elite dunadork...NO FRIENDS!

hey Grang...btw...i know your AIM name..so u might know who i am :)

Grang, next time you post to argue you're not Surge, might want to wait more than 120 seconds after you post as Surge.

hey Grang...btw...i know your AIM name..so u might know who i am :)

And as an afterthought, mume management really needs to think about this sort of thing. They've jumped through hoops to protect newbies, and I don't argue against that at all, my point being that clowns like this are preying on exactly the people you are so dedicated to protecting. I argued for a tailored punishment in the Stormblast/Olorion incident, I'll argue for the same here: a same-side pker who is preying on newbies should be Sauroned a hell of a lot faster than one messing with veterans.

all sameside pkillers are the players that suck in this game.. they are even worse player then ME! and that is bad

Surge you little FUCKER!!! Surge can sameside pk all he wants and Nazgum(or any of his other stalkers) will get demoted for killin him? Wher is the fuckin JUSTICE?!?!?!?!??!! Surge you are a disgrace to mume, and i don't want to admit it but yeah, i guess this DOES make surge invincible, cause no one wants to get demoted!

I'm telling you right now, if I see Surge im not gonna think twice about NOT
killing him. The first thought going into my head is kill if i see his name.
I will revenge anyone who has died to that little newbie that kills people for
HERENDOUS reasons! The day that guy dies is the day im going to hold a party
in grey havens! bE FOREWARNED SURGE, IF I HEAR SURGE killed me im gonna kick
the shit out of you personally, its people like you that need where and narrates
to find out what to kill instead of playing the game the real way and hunting
darkies... Thus ends my case!

Maybe grang has a multiple personality disorder rl so he really doesn't know that he plays all these sameside pker chars. My solution to the problem would be electroshock therapy 3 times per day, and if there are any anti-anxiety drugs left in the country after Shadrach gets his prescription filled, take 2 blue ones and 3 red ones every 30 minutes.

Death to same-side pking scum .... that being said ..... who cares if surge
is grang is yanwe is blah blah blah. If he is a pker he will be hunted down
like the dog he is. However, the actions of surge does not allow you to go
pk others who are none pkers. Character separation is an important aspect to
mume and must be (and I believe has been) upheld.
This situation in no way has anything to do with the
stormblast situation.

Troubling part is the fact he has not been sauron listed and can not yet be
eliminated with out reprecussions. If you want to protect newbies and other
players allow legends and others to hunt down these scums immediately. This
will allow players to believe that there is some justice and prevent them
from leaving mume (though I highly doubt this is a major problem)

Sure if Grang et al. Nazgum is right, its his M.O. He can only kill newbies or drunk, afk estonians.

I'd bet you anything no gods would complain if you hunt him down even now, Mouser. It's just that he's probably a throw-away char who doesn't care if he dies, so pkilling him won't hurt him much while he's not Sauron listed.

why, if i am so crappy a player, cant you dumbasses kill me?

Notice the succession of time elapsement between comments with Surge and Grang... not even 2 minutes after each other all the time =p Nice try.

Although I like p(Yanwe) I wouldn't doubt Surge is him. He's cried wolf too many times. Surge is dead when I see him.

I happen to know p(Surge) in RL and he's not p(Grang).

P.S. I'm not Surge either, so don't tell at me for that.

i doubt you believe that Grang's comment is not mine, which it isnt, ah jeese...i will log on as a darkie sometime..and let nazgum and all the other people know that i am not grang..

Surge died to morholth... problem solved.

COME ON PUP LOTS ROCK THIS MOTHA FO.

Yes it is guaranteed p(grang) trying with lies to lure ppl with him, then kill them when they're helpless. and if he gets beaten in combat, he yell to ppl that don't know him and claim he gets killed for no reason etc. he's purely pathetic, and u can read it all the way if you try...

When Zoone can find pk, I think he's very good at is... But if it's sameside pk, I have a problem with. And he should know this by now... I have reason to attack Grang, and to attack Surge (as any of my chars btw) just due to thier reputation. Other than those two chars, I won't take part in his attack at all, but still dislike how he plays those two chars, and I think he knows it.

Sameside pk can actually be fun...
But it all depends on how you do it...

I sarurons listed Ginlon at level 43 or so...
And had lotsa fun killing people like Vainamoinen...


U had a lot to lose, nothing to gain..
I had fun, and i died back to level 1
after DT'ing on purpose with Vainamoinens eq :)

But, to make a char, take it to midlevel and just
use it to kill newbies is lame, yes...

hmm,indeed, killing a level 72(or 73 by now?) is much less lame then killing newbies. Btw did you notice at the end of the log that Surge tell ophelia 'just killed you coz I needed rent money, you understand':):):):)

And what level would Ginlon or Drokk be if you didn't constantly suicide them? I bet Ginlon would be highed level on mume. You have a nasty temper and you like to take it out on yourself =p

sometimes i wonder... how the fuck did i type highed when i meant to type highest... slap me!

BAD BAD BAD SURGE!!!

Notice those two same messages from Surge. They are absolutely same and the time interval is ~5 mins./paragraph/
I will tell you what that is. Reload of the page. Surge=Grand simply followed the discussion and wanted to know what next comments were :P
to Gray: davaj kak nibudj nocju groupnemsa i ubjem etu suku ?? :D

lol surge =P

don't think people are even still reading this log, BUT if they are, i'm SURE that surge did NOT = grang simply because if they were the same grang would have been tellin me in on AIM just cause he's stupid like that. cause grang has sameside pked me before as a joke with the trollies guess cause he's a dumbass and got a big kick out of it on aim