How Mume Should Be
posted by Nazgum
2001-04-10 05:50:40
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I really hope I am allowed to post this, and Manwe doesn't get too mad at me. D
waynem@efni.com

### A games reviewer from games.com was doing a review on mume, and the best mud gets an enter in "PC Gamer" magazine.  Vanidor asked me if I could help out and try to provide the dark side player aspect, so I did the best I could ;p ###

o W C>
Manwë has transferred you!
Mansarde (M7 Hacking Lab)
A large bulletin board is mounted on a wall here.
Manwë the Ainu is standing here.
*an Elf* is sitting here.

* W C>
*an Elf* gasps in astonishment.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'pk!:)'

* W C>sa time to DIE ELF!
comm snorts 'time to DIE ELF!'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'hrm......'

* W C>ex
None.

* W C>
Saving Nazgúm.

* W C>sa nice a noflee ;p
comm snorts 'nice a noflee ;p'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'manwe...'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'what iou say...its touchang almust'

* W C>look

Manwë says 'Nazgum (the orc) is one of our pk-type players :)'

* W C>
*an Elf* nods solemnly.

* W C>
Jahara narrates 'was Elfyfan troll i think'

* W C>nod manwe
You nod in agreement with him.

* W C>howl
You howl triumphantly.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'give me a quote?'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'what does mume mean to iou?'

* W C>
Manwë says 'so, if you want to ask him some questions as well, from a player
perspective ?'

* W C>
*an Elf* nods solemnly.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'perfect'

* W C>sa a quote?  ok one sec ;)
comm snorts 'a quote?  ok one sec ;)'
Ok.
* W C>
Manwë says 'a World of Possibilities :)'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'remember'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'people....well see this ind yoor name'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'here's iour chance to suck op'

* W C>sa hehe
comm snorts 'hehe'
Ok.

* W C>sa lemme try to word it nice
comm snorts 'lemme try to word it nice'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'ok.'
* W C>
*an Elf* says 'so nazgum I hive a fealang yll keep on plaiing thas mod'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'what happends if iou see me an pk'

* W C>
*an Elf* winks suggestively.

* W C>sa u die!!
comm snorts 'u die!!'
Ok.
*an Elf* says 'well saad;)'

* W C>sa jeah!
comm snorts 'jeah!'
Ok.

* W C>sa I smite my sword through your chest and hang you oFF a TREe!!
comm snorts 'I smite my sword through your chest and hang you oFF a TREe!!'
Ok.

* W C>cou
Yuck, try to cover your mouth next time!

* W C>
*an Elf* nods solemnly.

* W C>sa This is an Orcs World!! Those fanciful Elves are worthless, Weak, and Make great appetiz
ers!!  one day I shall slaY THEm ALl!!
comm snorts 'This is an Orcs World!! Those fanciful Elves are worthless, Weak, and Make great app
etizers!!  one day I shall slaY THEm ALl!!'
Ok.

* W C>
Manwë falls down laughing.

* W C>
*an Elf* nods solemnly.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'im quoting that nazgum;)'

* W C>sa jeah!
comm snorts 'jeah!'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'ok;)'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'nazgom what makes pk here so great'

* W C>sa the Differences between the sides..  The fruity side leaves for greeD!!  Always Tryin TO
 get theMSelves More preciouS jewels and SHinY STuff!!  We live for Blood!
comm snorts 'the Differences between the sides..  The fruity side leaves for greeD!!  Always Tryi
n TO get theMSelves More preciouS jewels and SHinY STuff!!  We live for Blood!'
Ok.

* W C>sa We shall Hunt them Down, use the Terrain To trap thems!!  Have our men use Magics to fin
d them!!
comm snorts 'We shall Hunt them Down, use the Terrain To trap thems!!  Have our men use Magics to
 find them!!'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* smiles happily.
*an Elf* nods solemnly.

* W C>
*an Elf* smiles happily.

* W C>sa The outdoors is Huge, Like an EndleesS Blood Pool, that Wants to be Drinken then REpleni
shed with a smelly Puke corpse
comm snorts 'The outdoors is Huge, Like an EndleesS Blood Pool, that Wants to be Drinken then REp
lenished with a smelly Puke corpse'
Ok.


* W C>sa Our Master Sauron makes Nice Darkness sometimes, to Hide the evil sun, but sometimes it 
finds Us, and we're Weak!!  But dumb Hobbitses Still Fail to Hurt us eveN Then!
comm snorts 'Our Master Sauron makes Nice Darkness sometimes, to Hide the evil sun, but sometimes
 it finds Us, and we're Weak!!  But dumb Hobbitses Still Fail to Hurt us eveN Then!'
Ok.

* W C>
Manwë giggles.

* W C>
*an Elf* nods solemnly.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'well said'

* W C>sa We retreat back to Troll caves, Were big smelly things STomp The life OuT of them!
comm snorts 'We retreat back to Troll caves, Were big smelly things STomp The life OuT of them!'
Ok.

* W C>
Manwë says 'I didn't know you could rp, Nazgum :)'
* W C>
*an Elf* says 'this is excelent rp'

* W C>sa eh I can't I'm just making this up as I go :)
comm snorts 'eh I can't I'm just making this up as I go :)'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* falls down laughing.

* W C>
*an Elf* claps.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'well...oh that's great stoff great great great stoff.'

* W C>
Manwë says 'well, you should try while pking... it adds a lot of 'colour''

* W C>sa I do when I'm solo
comm snorts 'I do when I'm solo'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'I bet ia anithing he's sucking up now;)'

* W C>slap elf
You slap *an Elf*.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'am stall gonna quote that nazgom;)'

* W C>sa what else does puke wanan know!
comm snorts 'what else does puke wanan know!'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'nothing moch that was perfect nazgom'

* W C>
Manwë says 'Nazgum, suck up? No. Orcs hate me because I once stated, in their
early days, 'Orcs are just intelligent mobiles''

### hehe manwe rocks ###

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'one lat thing'

* W C>t jahara hmm, yea something like that :)
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'last sorry'

* W C>gig manwe
You giggle at his silly antics.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'hrm...'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'with you permision'

* W C>
Manwë says '(while Trolls are stupid mobiles)'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'may A post your players name?'

* W C>
Saving Nazgúm.

* W C>sa yup :)

* W C>comm snorts 'yup :)'
Ok.

### pk talks ###


* W C>
*an Elf* says 'ill have to tri thit one out'

* W C>sa go walk east of neni eLf, I shoW 
You PK!!
comm snorts 'go walk east of neni eLf, I shoW 
You PK!!'
Ok.

* W C>
Manwë says 'Oh, if you try PK, you should also explore Moria. Moria is the
'gem' of MUME IMHO. That's a meticoulously crafted place that has a LOT of RP
athmosphere... 
You 'feel' the books, there more than everywhere else'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'so what level would a pk master like yoo recomend thas?'

* W C>
*an Elf* smiles happily.

* W C>sa yea, Moria is a very very nice area :)  I live there lately
comm snorts 'yea, Moria is a very very nice area :)  I live there lately'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'ill try that before I pulbash the revaew'

* W C>
*an Elf* falls down laughing.

* W C>sa it's my legend home until ainu allow me one :)
comm snorts 'it's my legend home until ainu allow me one :)'
Ok.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'live?!?'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'legend home??... '

* W C>l
Mansarde (M7 Hacking Lab)
A large bulletin board is mounted on a wall here.
Manwë the Ainu is standing here.
*an Elf* is RESTING here.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'am guessang iou get yoor own huoses it certiyn levels?'

* W C>
Manwë says '(yeah, but he can't enter the west gate, so you are safe there :-)'

* W C>sa only smelly ones like yourself
comm snorts 'only smelly ones like yourself'
Ok.
* W C>poke elf
You poke her in the ribs.

* W C>
*an Elf* falls down laughing.

* W C>
*an Elf* chuckles politely.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'su A can build mi own hoose yt level 30?'

* W C>
Manwë nods solemnly.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'do I litterli have to collect wood;)?'

* W C>
Manwë says 'no, you pay for it :)'

* W C>
Saving Nazgúm.

* W C>sa If 
You Don'T Run INto Me in the ForeEST befoRE 
You can PAY FOr It!
comm snorts 'If 
You Don'T Run INto Me in the ForeEST befoRE 
You can PAY FOr It!'
Ok.

* W C>lau elf
You point your finger at her and laugh.

* W C>
*an Elf* chuckles politely.

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'iou do pk;)'

* W C>
*an Elf* says 'and rp all in one'

* W C>l
Mansarde (M7 Hacking Lab)
A large bulletin board is mounted on a wall here.
Manwë the Ainu is standing here.
*an Elf* is RESTING here.

* W C>
Manwë says 'yes, that's possible, but very rare'


* W C>
*an Elf* taunts nazgum.

* W C>
*an Elf* nods solemnly.

* W C>scream
ARRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!

* W C>st
You are already standing.

* W C>l
Mansarde (M7 Hacking Lab)
A large bulletin board is mounted on a wall here.
Manwë the Ainu is standing here.
*an Elf* is standing here.

* W C>sa 
You Lucky AinU MKaes This ROom NoAttack PEFL!
comm snorts '
You Lucky AinU MKaes This ROom NoAttack PEFL!'
Ok.


### If only Mume could really be like this, the game would
be so much more fun...  If only ###
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Nazgum2001-04-10 06:01:25
on a side note this 40 minute talk with elf and manwe (not all shown here) was probably the funnest thing I have done on mume in the past 2 months ;p
Pilois2001-04-10 06:15:13
I'm not sure I want a bunch of PCGAMER readers on MUME... :P
Veluslol2001-04-10 06:16:23
SUCKUP!!!
Saber2001-04-10 06:51:58
This log rocks :)
Thanks fer sharing
Juston2001-04-10 07:08:37
Bah. Kids these days don't understand the beauty or complexity of the old-school PC games. Sim City 2000, Duke Nukem 3D, Doom 2, Hexen: Beyond Heretic, I'll even go as high as half-life.
Rogon2001-04-10 07:56:43
The Invasion of the preteen americans is at hand. úrk :)
Skojardu2001-04-10 07:56:55
Yeah kids dont understand games like wolfenstein 3d,doom,warlords,heroes of might and magic I old kick as games.Did i miss M&M 1-6 series then Vii and Viii sucked ass.
Vorlin2001-04-10 08:10:00
I'll not only go so far as to say that Moria is the gem of mume areas, I'll say that it's the single best area I've ever been in during my years of mudding. It captures the feel of the 'real' moria as well as I think could possibly be done. I recommend to anyone who hasn't mapped it yet, do so by yourself (hopefully, noone else will be there *grin*): it's definitely a rush. /par/ I've been on 'popular' text-based muds before (Federation, Gemstone III) and I can tell you that while they might be profitable for those who run them, they suck as a gaming enviroment. Too fucking crowded. Picture mume with 800 people logged on. Picture moria with 75 people in it. Dozens of narrates per minute. 45 people selling stuff all at once. And finally, picture the current bitching multiplied by 10, along with the current cluelessness multiplied by 100. No thanks. :)
Nepenthe2001-04-10 08:11:36
The reason mume isn't like this is because the stakes are so high in pk that no one wants to risk goofing off for rp fun. After mind numbin hours of xp and tp to legend, weeks in retirement for age, and days hunting enough eq to be conpetitive, no one is going to take the time or feel light hearted enough to type in a few rp commands when they're trying to lose the xp, age, and eq that is always at risk in pk. I don't want mume to be quakemud either, but if you want people to play like they're having fun, you have to lower the stakes.
Nepenthe2001-04-10 08:13:01
"when they're trying to lose the xp, age, and eq" --- er... meant "when they're trying NOT to lose..."
Lochdale2001-04-10 08:15:27
A bunch of teenage Americans joining up should give you just about all the fodder you need Rogon to reach level 100. Pray for it mate.
Nepenthe2001-04-10 08:16:33
An idea that I'll throw out that I posted on idea board a few days ago: Make a quest available to all races (doable at hero level or so) that erases trophy. You'd undergo some kind of mindwashing or something, like FoY for the brain. No legend+ would want to do this quest, since it'd erase their record of pks. A hero level, though, probably wouldn't have many pks on trophy to lose, and would have a much less tedious time levelling. Personally, I enjoy all the time I spend on mume in pk and goign to new areas, but after a couple hours of xping a midlev I feel like I've just wasted a chunk of my day.
Fragir2001-04-10 09:21:23
If they do this Nepenthe i get all my 40+ level chars and clear their trophy :P And belive me, I will not miss any lost # trophies :)
Reef2001-04-10 09:26:55
I have only three words for you all - Leisure Suit Larry....
Diam2001-04-10 09:57:45
Yeah please, i would erase every trophy in blink of an eye:P,
that would mean level 80+ in 1 rl month :P with clean TROPHY!!!

And someone told there is a dozen narrates per minute???
hey! U must be kidding:P, when im in there is 100 narrates per second.
Fredde2001-04-10 10:27:46
yeah moria is fun to map.. first time i enterd through west gate i like walked to four ways and then back and hided to wait for gate to be openable again =þ i got scared! mwahaahahaha
Merlin2001-04-10 11:14:45
MUME needs less players and bigger maps along with less mps and remove bob, teleport, portal, wor. Offcourse leadership needs to go too, groups of 3 should be some sort of maximum if you want to move swift. I feel its silly how you can jog warrens -> bree -> tharbad -> khuzur -> warrens in NOTIME, would be more exciting if moving far away would feel like some sort of adventure.
Torment2001-04-10 11:28:04
I noticed it too, whenever Diam is on there are 100 narrates (in all caps) a minute.
Paras2001-04-10 12:27:29
that's true Torment, 'bout the many narrates in caps, unless I am on, then Diam won't have the possibility to do it ... *GRIN!*
BTW, nice rp there, Nazgum!
Raichu2001-04-10 12:59:47
Cool log!
Natash2001-04-10 15:57:29
All pay attention there! We need more of this.
par2001-04-10 16:24:26
par....?
Jahara2001-04-10 18:12:26
Elfyfan!
Alcion/Vanimeld2001-04-10 18:13:31
"Have our men use Magics to find them!!'" - You wish, this won't work no more!
Nazgum2001-04-10 18:16:36
yea well I realize mume isn't quite like this, with some imagination you could hope it is, but it still isn't, unfortunately.. And I've made several tries to roleplay but it's simply not possible and groups, and when trying solo usually ensures you will not get a kill.. sucks
Olo2001-04-10 18:22:23
I think it would be super cool if this mud got the recognition it
deserves in PC Gamer or whatever magazine this was for. Because
IMHO, all the bullshit aside, this is the best mud ive ever played.
That is why i keep coming back 2 days after I swear ive quit for
good. There is no comparison! VIVA LA MUME!
Armodo2001-04-10 18:26:24

PC Gamer? *shiver*

I am afraid MUME is going to become a VICTIM of its own success.

If you have a good thing going, keep it to yourself! Especially if it is FREE!
fed2001-04-10 18:59:57
i own a server here in the usa, if you need a place to host mume i will host it free. My server is NT. I can put up a linux box if needed just ask. Also way to go Nazgum.
fed2001-04-10 19:00:38
my server has been up for 3 years now no crashes
Rogon2001-04-10 19:29:36
I believe mume is already hosted for free or something like that :)
Unknown2001-04-10 19:41:06
Rogong sweating that he'll lose his link advantage
Manitalni2001-04-10 19:45:17
*claps* for Nazgum, rocking rp, but i happen to agree with all the people who dont want mume in pcgamer, to get that much recognition would kill the mud, when there are 100 pukes logged on it gets to the point where you can't find any xp that hasn't been done already without running all the way south of tbad, imagine what it would be like with 400+ pukes.... it would be pointless to play, because it would be impossible to level lowbie and midlevel players.
Raichu2001-04-10 19:47:26
Nah Manitalni, with 100 pukes you can easily xp but you just need to know some good places.... MUME is huge.
ElfyFan2001-04-10 20:28:13
To:Jahara Dain deleted me, said that my name was silly!
Well, i quite agree actually.
Cele2001-04-10 20:41:21
Nepenthe: thats why I implemented numpad7 with my client: hitting it makes me roll my axe and say someting ugly, irritation, stupid, trollish.. randomly choosen.
Juston2001-04-10 21:14:49
Doesn't MUME have a limit to how many people can be on? Isn't that limit set at 200 people total?
a snot to the s2001-04-10 21:26:19
You americans thought about this - there are several hundred muds out there that is run by americans only and played by americans mainly, where we swedes have shitlinks. MUME is one of the few good european muds and europeans built most of mume(or?). So, on a global scale, you americans got much better links than us! Puts all this talk about taking it away from us`into perspective, doesnt it? :P
fed2001-04-10 22:02:06
when will we know the results of pc gamer etc?
fed to the snot2001-04-10 22:07:21
Your link gives you an advantage, but that doesn't bother me i will play mume even on ajaxs link because i love to play it. I don't want to take your advantage away all i was saying is that if you need a privatly owned kick ass server i own one its got lots of bandwidth and hasn't crashed in 3 YEARS.
Vorlin2001-04-10 22:39:56
I worked for Federation on AOL for awhile, and at the time the Federation team would periodically buy the slot that AOL sells that shows your product name and a link to it whenever anyone logs on. The slots would be up for about 30 minutes to an hour (been a few years, don't remember exactly), and the result would be utter fucking chaos. During that time hundreds and hundreds of sightseers would log into the game, and I think everyone here can imagine what that was like. An article in PC Gamer could well have the same effect, though it would probably be less intense and spread out more over time. It would sort of be the mud equivalent of a hurricane: all the veterans would lay low till it ended. :)
Galerech2001-04-10 22:59:00
i read pcgamer! for last 2 years or so (magazine used to be ALOT better before most of the old editors left for new jobs, still prob best pc games magazine out there). but my view on this is that most of the attention recieved from this will be short lived (after all, who wants to play a mud with all those nice 3d games out there? *cough*).
Vegas2001-04-11 01:25:24
nice log Nazgum, on the matter regarding pc gamer, lets pray that mume doesn't get
credit it deserves or we're all in for some shit connections, more annoying whining
bitching players and even more eq horders.
Reef2001-04-11 01:44:32
Give Fed the nod, give Fed the nod, give Fed the nod!! Fed you rock mate, get up someones ass and get your server connected - even as a server, would be better than connecting to Mume direct.
Prist2001-04-11 03:24:16
Hey, i'd love if there were more newbie pukes around... they always look so cute when they die :)
Reply to FED2001-04-11 04:55:41
Yes.. we would love a mume.usa server. please speak to Manwe or rifle
through the files when he sleeping.. whatever it takes. get us mume in
usa and let the NSLers either come over or keep their shit to themselves.

Who would like a MUME in usa?

*raise*
Azg2001-04-11 05:45:12
Personally I think mr *elf* made up this whole thing just so he can get special treatment. hehehe
'lem2001-04-11 07:20:39
I must admit that roleplayign in mume has a special place in my heart and I see no reason to not
continue it in a pkill situation. If you ever meet Eomund or Oruk (not my characters btw) you
will see roleplay in pkilling! Such fun! *claps Nazgum*
Lefali2001-04-11 07:54:20
I have an idea - its boring when things become easy, so maybe create
something even harder then darkies? I found out that when i get tired from
plaing pukes I have still something new to play - darkies, but i can imagine, that one day i will be bored from darkies also, so maybe there should be
something after it - and i dont mean play gods or someth like that *shiver* (it has to be boring be immortal imho) but something dunno - more harder, or just simply different - not changing things all the time - but just something more.
Im sorry i posted it here - i just was thinking about it today.
Merilon2001-04-11 08:07:10
It would be nice to have a server here in the US... I do fine with my 400ms link, and I'm sure the server would never match those crazy swedes, but hey, anything helps :D
Unknown2001-04-11 11:46:45
nod Prist they look cute, or better say they look like linkfrozen :P *CACCKLE*
Pampalini2001-04-11 21:05:43
Yes i know what Merlin wanted to say, it would be really nice, no idea if would
it work.
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