tsihih

Nsl followerer doesn't deserve better!

give him reimb, that was fucking fucked up by hob, ruin game totally

Orcs once did to my puke and they didnt get demoted nor didnt i get reimb, i know it sucks!

I've had reimb for this once. It sucks!

So why do you program your client in such a way it can be used against you? I agree this is total bullshit and hobbit shouldn't be allowed to keep the eq. Isn't it totally out of character for an orc to suddenly drop all of his gear and hobbit picks it up? If this is legal then I can easily crossrace trade eq with my rl friends pukes and my darkies. Just pretend you have that trigger and its all legal :)

They did same thing to me and verminaard.

this is gay. from both sides.

this is gay. from both sides.

That was damn funny and NSL deserve some abuse themselves for ruining mume. Still, funs over, he should be fully reimbursed and the hobbit should be demoted.

How does the scripting look like in the client that causes this ? How should the scripting look like in the client to avoid it ?

Well I didn't lose much I lost 1 piece of eq, I feel more sorry for meliza.

How does the scripting look like in the client that causes this ? How should the scripting look like in the client to avoid it ?

emote ;rem all ; drop all tells you ' arglebargle'.}

I mean in the client like #action {........

First, good going on the hobbits part to abuse NSL. This should be totally legal, in the case of being used against NSL. *nod self* Second, good going i will now murder all these hobbits. THIRD and MOST IMPORTANT: tintin users you need to edit your constants file before compilation, change the command used to break up multiple commands (by default this is ";") -- change it to "`" or something other than the widley-known-and-abused ";"

This is bullshit, Meliza should get reimb. And Meliza aint NSL. So *SNORE* all! *comforts Meliza*

I am not NSL btw, but I do play from Umeå, Sweden!

How does the action look like in the client file that causes this ?

Well its clearly trying to simulate gameoutput to trick a pc "tells you". Which useally is
deemed to be cheating.. its Rules misc. Next they trick ppl to walk into a DT....

It's no cheat, more like abusing ppls poorly configured clients. And the valar
have stated cleary that they do not take responsibility for ppls clients.

So how should client be configured to not cause this ?

In what way do we ruin game except kill you? Its a pk mud, face it. Idiots.

The ugliest thing to do ... i think soon will be made a bunch of chars just for guarding and whacking bastards like those hobbits ... its not part of the game ... its rude twisting of the bases of this game this should be taken as virus or sth like that. come on ... thare are certain rules in this game but controlling the rules outside from it ...you think youre somekind of matrix or what ? Fuck you lousy hobbits ... If guilty is is proved ...i would fucking delete the bastards account and ban their site for a month ... damned

Good god you are an incredible tosser Rhuka. Your bullying complex on a mud must be used to over compensate for some profound rl issues. Fighting agains a 24/7 max equiped superlinked lab is not really a game. A game suggests that there is some competition. Other then Rhuka (Elmir right?) most nslers are decent and do nothing worse then the rest of would do (myself included) if we had the same circumstances. I just think that you should at least try and appreciate how difficult and unenjoyable it is for a US based ppl to fight your lab. The competition element has been remvoed in those instances.

I feel SO safe on jmudc. SO fucking save. *cry*

Ferska has done this to me before too same side. I sent log and no re-imb or action taken against Ferska. It all depends how many V+ you know vs how many the abuser knows....

If this doesnt violate the rule about emotes...

This is great. Since your action is illegal anyway you don't have a leg to stand
on. I think it is amazingly stupid of you to have written your action so that
you can get screwed like this.

hey unknown stop asking that fucking question and read my previous comment for your answer

For everyones knowing, those hobbits are storeport lab.
From right to left, Mumma, and Mestan.

Message 1703 : Action-triggering (Manwe)
Written on Tue May 8 17:22:25 2001

Since we now have a clear setup on actions (see rules actions), it would
be unfair to take advantage of badly programmed clients by triggering their
actions to your advantage.

--Manwe.

Yes ofcourse we play hobbits!, I've been spamxping my troll to olog at the same time
I've been xping some hobbit. get a clue

so you abuse triggers AND have 2 diff accounts? shame on you

Lochdale about summed it up. Elmir, you're a good player with a super link. Sure, the link helps, but you're also very knowledgeable. But, your idea of fun is completely using your scenario (lab) to basically remove the "competetion" from the game. And for you not to admit to this is just plain idiocy.

Lilladde, lilljempa, lillmarre, all swedes, nice plan from them, lets make bets on who they are!!!! My bet is either its tindomerel and his preteen buddies, or if its not that, i bet atleast one of them has a v+. Prove me right, prove me wrong!

Lochdale about summed it up. Elmir, you're a good player with a super link. Sure, the link helps, but you're also very knowledgeable. But, your idea of fun is completely using your scenario (lab) to basically remove the "competetion" from the game. And for you not to admit to this is just plain idiocy.

Jeah, well, ok, I can see the fun in it 1, 2 or perhaps 3 times - but heck, getting eq like this is silly. See how well Tindo (Lilladde) and his hobbit-friends (Mumme, Mestan) take advantage of that action to gain equipment. I lost an ornate and Uldrak some shining piece, that's fine by me. But I sure as hell hope Meliza get reimb. Was a bad trick vs. a nice player.

I agree with Rogon. Tindomerel's rl name is "Andreas", and those are regularly (in Sweden) called Adde. I thought he had passed this stage in life, but I was obviously wrong.

the action looks something like this #action {%0 tells you %1} {#var reply %0}

Whenever some new chars on mume are made they have to be some superplayers char?

martin is lillmarre and jens is lilljempa. martin is mumma jens is mestan. seems like you win this time rogon

why u think that it is tindo?

why not use variables!? #action %0 tells you '%1' {#var reply %0} {default}
#alias reply {tell %reply %0}

fun once, twice or not fun at all, but when people cant learn to make "safe" triggers, they suck ... at least in client programming ... and should train some more and a bit harder on that :)

What does it matter, we know it's Tindo, Sharmak. What's sad is that ppl _have_ to know who ppl are. I myself have experienced ppl enjoying grouping/talking to me as lone as they are not aware of that I'm NSL. That IS sad.

How can ppl "know" that it's tindo? He said he plays one of those lill ones?

galadon used to stand slag and spam do this. i can't program well, so
i got someone else to tell me how to do it *shrug*

Skiter du på dig för att vi vet vem du är eller din jävla fjant. Sluta kommentera som unknown Tindo. Välj ett bättre namn och gruppa inte med samma personer och ändra spel-stil om du vill försöka gå incog. Jag förstår att du försöker, men var inte så kass.

So only way to make a reply action that is safe is to recompile the client with new char for ; ? or is there a simpler way to make a safe reply variable ?

Well this is bullshit. Meliza should have reimb just for playing from norrland. And what the hobbit did was probably the biggest fucking lame ass bullshit i've ever seen...

nope, you don't have to recompile it, just check the options, there's an option to change seperation char from the default ';' to something else.

nice dorks, using my name to comment. *pathetic*. and somehow im 100% sure, its that Grang-dick.

anyway, from now one - i wont comment anything here and wont write into wall. so if you see my name - its writted by some1 else - not by me

Im the master of actions! Watch me go! #act {%1 tells you %0} {#var name %1} is the action, and it should be {^%1 tells you %0} {#var name %1}, that makes it trigger on sentances starting with ^1, I fell for this one aswell, as Rhuka, but thats cause I have soooooo old settings in lab... And, I dont have a GREAT link, I have 150 ms when Im playing from home, which I am most of the time. And Meliza got reimb, but whobbits werent demoted.

What the fuck is all this spamming bla bla bla. If I wanted to do some shitty little hobbit and planned on being incognito, why would I pick a name containing my RL name how stupid are you? I would certainly not attracting attention by something like this and then comment that i did it "cause the others were nsl/nslfollowers" I would know that you would send over Magica - nsls "soft" answer to Luca Brasci to wash some V+ car and get account information anyway. I never triggered nobodys client and I don't comment as unknown, it looks like i am afraid of discussions/flaming? Suck my dick.

Durcano, it wasn't grang, it was p(snotty) the guy who always play fair yada
yada yada and his friends Elajt and Mumma.

So I pointed out that reply actions are technically illegal under RULES ACTIONS
and Rhuka(Elmir) tried to whack me. Meliza was running after me as well but
never engaged. How completely lame. Maybe he's keeping a list of everyone who
made comments here and planning to whack them with his labbies next time he
sees them.

These comments are starting to get rather personal. I have always maintained that people will use whatever advantage that they may have. Its only slightly better then outright cheating. Lab ppls are not inherently bad people, they just have a huge advantage. Its the arrogance displayed by Rhuka/Elmir that really bothers me. As far as I am concerned, the Hobbit cheated and should be demoted as such and a full reimbursement should be given. Lastly, Snotty seems to comment a lot in his own name so I would be surprised if he commented as an unknown. Account system anyone?

But you looted? Isnt that some kind if participation in it all? I bet ya didnt say: Oh no, what did my buttfucks do now? Nooo! They triggered someones actions! I bet ya said: Ohlalala! My buttfucks buddies whom I love arent only capable of storeporting, they can abuse actions aswell!

Final comment, how can anyone think ppl of Magica is such a terrible person? Always struck me as enjoying the game and not taking it too seriously so lay off Majica some, its unbecoming.

Meliza got reimb, I am glad he did, very nice player.

Heheh, funny stuff.

Magica is a nice person, but I guess most people that have seen her pics think
she is beautiful and is jelous of us. There for they have to tease her.

I honestly in all truth think something should be done. For instance its not right to fuck up peoples clients that they work hard in doing. And for some its the most simple they can only do. And for these hobbits to do this shit is utterly wrong. If they think they deserve that equipment let them go get themselves. Something really should be done, under rules whois, it calls for punishment or removal of a whois that copies any game output. Emoting that someone tells you something is copying game output and thus causing damage to another player.

What pics of Magica ? She is a Elf girly ?

.......In tintin there are three ways to avoid this problem. 1) Use an anchor ^, Elmir mentioned this above. 2) Use %1 instead of %0, because %0 is a multiple word string and %1 is a single word string. 3) Use $1 instead of %1, any variable with $ is treated as literal, so you would actually treat ; as a character instead of the control command. .......In powwow there are also three ways to avoid this problem. 1) Use &1 instead of %1 which limits to one word characters. 2) Anchor as mentioned above. 3) Additional anchor on color control characters. Use the variable $lastline to find out the proper color control character. .......Zmud accepts most tintin commands. In my opionion, powwow should have a way to treat ; as a character like tintin does, and whoever programs powwow could consider this a big thing on my wish list.

every1 that follows NSL are nice ppl it seems. Meliza is totally clueless, can bashtrap, stab moors (with his eqstealing thief) and follow misc nslrer. Atleast i storeport solo.

Yes I am totally clueless, I certainly not deserve the equipment I wear BUT, I did not steal any equipment with my thief (exept an ornate...was it from Elmir?)
So would you please shut your storeport up your ass so you might end up in the pile of shit where you belong? Atleast I try not to get myself enemies, or bad reputation, but jesh Mumma - you beg for it! *spit* And would some NSL tell me, do I often follow you guys? I follow them as often as I follow .cz, they are all good players so tell me, why shouldn't I follow them since its allmost impossible to solo-pk as low-def orcShaman? Come back when you have some arguements, Yours.

When was the last time anyone saw Mumma solo??? what is that, a disease, it hurts? never heard of it before!

When was the last time anyone saw Mumma solo??? what is that, a disease, it hurts? never heard of it before!

It wasn't the most sporting thing to do, but anything that discourages the use of clients for any reason is OKAY BY ME!!!! The best thing that could ever happen to MUME (except maybe Phier should drop dead) would be if clients could be BANNED totally and people forced to play for themselves. Lazy curs. Just TYPE IN commands and do your own THINKING! And stop cheating. Thank you.

I don't know why everybody hates me. I probably deserve it, but I am trying my best not to be too much an asshole anymore. I just don't know hope to behave around people. I'm really sorry to be such a jerk. Please stop making fun of me. It really hurts my feelings. What can I do to be a better person?

Mumma is solo alot, not that he takes any great risks with his stored port
and but solo he is.

When you were born in Mume, you cried and Arda smiled at you. Play the game so that when you leave it, Arda cries and you smile.

- god damn I am a poet =)

When you were born in Mume, you cried and Arda smiled at you. Play the game so that when you leave it, Arda cries and you smile.

- god damn I am a poet =)

I don't recall Meliza following any of us that much, but I could be wrong.
He is a good and polite player so I don't mind at all.

or if you use JMC you can just change the character return character to something else that only you know. An example is changing it to tilda (~) And, no, I don't use tildas as my character return.

Still dubious... Somehow this emote is not 'emulating game output', but *a troll* emoteing tries to sneak behind you! IS, and therefor illegal... Sadly people can't just interpret rules in the most logical sense, so rules have to be rewritten to completely illegible mumbojumbo (btw, i go reread rules actions soon... beter make sense :)), just so no loopholes can be found. Btw, i am gonna try a new/old viewpoint... Maybe most of you don't realise, but this is a GAME, and GAMES are made for FUN (or atleast getting away from everyday worries). Where's the adrenaline in .1 seconds of gaining/losing eq?

make account system or lets leave this mume.net

you think u.s'ers have it bad, i think me and reef have it the worst of you all. But i'm not blaming anyone for that its our choise to play on an overseas mud ;P

You got is bad? Try playing from a deserted island with 6 other stranded castaways. Even the professor can't get this coco-modem past 4.6k and that's pushing it. Not to mention that I have to take breaks every 30 minutes for the monkey's banana break or he can't keep the electro-tredmill up to speed and my fish tank monitor browns out on me. I'd blow this hole, but I ain't leaving Mary Ann and Ginger for the Skipper to ravage without me. Say what you like about castaway life, I do rather enjoy the ravaging.

Hee hee. Gilligan.

I can confirm that indeed mumma plays solo. I saw him solo near dt. He storeported too. Buh.

Another reason for me to stay on good ol' telnet! *nod self*

Laugh, the danger of actions, this is hilarious shit.

Rock on, this is what NSL deserved !! What you want reimb for, they just used your fucking actions vs you, it's cool. Btw i bet NSL are using doortrigers in pk too so demote them ALL !!!

Heh, use tinyfugue people, NO WAY AT ALL to make it interpret world input as a command character. Btw I wouldn't be surprised at all if these hobbits indeed were Mumma Khazdul and Mestan... they're known for NSL-like attitude concerning eq and whether something is lame or not (it's lame if it's done to them, it's certainly not lame when done by them).

I'm too lazy and dumb (but not busy!) to write anything here so this place is good to whine about ME :).
I think if some1 would just write the account creating/deleteing/editing for mume.net and send to me, I'd check this out and maybe put it at work.

Ya, Mumma playz solo and is somtimes pretty kewl. Otherwise name yer variables ppl! You don't have to use %0, %1 for everything, instead you can use
#action %some1tellsya tells you '%somekindatext' etc. It would be highly unlikely for any1 to figure out what goofy names you are setting for your variables, if you are an imaginative sort.

I NEED THAT EQ FOR ME, INCASE MY HUGE GROUP ISNT ENOUGH TO SAVE ME

The idea that someone 'deserves' to lose their gear because they aren't expert client programmers is ludicrous. That's as stupid an opinion as you can have, it implies that a victim is somehow responsible for a miscreant's success. Hopefully the morons that espouse that view will one day get shot, then when they call the police they'll be told 'It is your fault, you should have worn a vest'. /par/ I think the management is slow to punish this abuse because they resent client users and don't mind seeing them get hurt. I know that sounds ridiculous, but I can't think of any other reason why such a blatant OOC abuse would be allowed to go unpunished. /par/ I prefer to see the people who do this sort of thing have all their characters wiped. I would say sitebanned, but that can hurt innocent as well as guilty. Any person doing such a twinkish thing like this can't possibly be worth having around.

you see what happens when people don't post logs?
you get comments like this from the utterly bored
logs people! logz

Ferska goes to army SO WHO CARES?:)))

Ack

was me this unknown

Agree wtih Vorlin ... Why on earth should i be busy with programming a client.
(I admit that programming is my weakest spot) :). when i can play with some multiple aliases and variables ...Doh ? The point of a game is not protecting yourself from an outside moron who has little... (hmm well whatever no need to get into details of physical and mental description of fuckasses.)Come on i really think that people should have somekind of selfrespect. <--- sounds like a fucking big daddy talk but really ...grow up guys and yes siteban maybe + delete of account for sure, would be a solution in those cases.

MUUAAHAHAHAA:...ROTFL....great...never thought anybody would really FALL for something
like that. Demote the hobbit and his buddies for abusing
Melizas lack of programming skills. But DONT reimburse Meliza. Silly people MUST be punished. C´mon...thats
from chapter no. 1 of each and every clients programming guide.

well mahatma! since not everybody has dedicated their lifes to program mud clients like you! he should and has been reimb.

Throw away that M$ OS and get a real one like linux!
Then you get access to the good clients like powwow or cancan :)

When they can write their trigers they should write it so it cannot be used agains them. If they are so stupid that they can't it is other story. They choosed to use it so nothing more to say. Rocking work anyway, go on !!! Death to NSL fuckers !!

You chose to enter our trap your fault, how could u be so newbie?
Thats about the same thing.

For your information, a vala and then a muddler said that this kind of action was totally ok before this happened. Then Manwe changed his mind (after alot of whining probably). Meliza got eq back, we "lost" the exp that we would otherwise have gained, by spending an hour in morgul vale. They had told us it was ok, now it was considered illegal retroactively, but we did not whine. (we kept verminaards shining greaves which we later banzaied away to shake)

Why in heavens name teach ppl to use a reply action thats illegal, the action automaticaly acts on another players input (when he tell to you) it then sets a variable - check rules.

--
Actions are tolerated when they do not depend directly or indirectly upon
another player event (Personal actions), but are illegal otherwise (External
actions).
--
Another thing is that emoting game output is illegal so they are both in a small fix here.
--
And if you want to get rid of the problem dont use ; as the spacer between the different commands

Fucking comments are pissing me off almost as much as my blow up doll which happens to be leaking air. Some of you people make me sick and it is understandable since you people are mostly morons (except Sauron who is my hero). Some of you people should really go out and get a real life like me. Why not go all the way and get a blow up sex doll like me! I recommend model number rs-45301 which has a rating of 1400psi. If any of you feel the need to talk to me about any problem whatsoever (problems on heterosexualityphobia is my speciality) just mume mail me @dardhel. I am more than happy to help out any other fellow faggot out there who is need of guidance. Lets just run down a list os people who can suck my dick if they can ever find it. I know im having a hard time finding this tiny thing. Relim,Rogon,Vaina,Ajax,Raichu,Idun,Dain,Phier,Stormblsat,A simple farmer,Leatherhead,Raiden,Korf,Korf,Korf,Korf,Korf,Zool,Mumma,korek,Diam,Ozon,Grishelda,Tiara,Oin,Fragir,Dardhel,Dardhel,Dardhel,Dardhel,Dardhel,Burger King
mochomurka,Dragoth,Julie my blow up doll, my right hand,my left nut,my ugly face,my fat ass,my stupid family,my fat cow,and all those who read this

Yeh, don't blame Fredde because he is illiterate and can't read the programming guide!

It was just plain stupid, Meliza got reimb so don't make problem about it.

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I like Alcion = have nice experience with his spammy actions on rtf. Was really cool.

im surprised im so rarely on those huge hatelists here. I could sure write a even huger hatelist than dardhel if i wanted to,a dn ppl you hate tend to hate you too!

oh yeah and 90% of the people on these lists would either fit in my hatelist, or are my friends, wierd uh? :P

I have no sympathy for Meliza since her and Macros killed me after
I yelled I was losing link 4 times. Some of that eq looked like my
old shit which she never deserved period. Also, I raged about just
such things like this a year ago, and what did I say? Nothing would
ever happen until it was done some in PK. Sure enough, they decide
to do something. What about the same-side abuse that took place and
nothing happened except Gods acted like it was ok. Sickening.

--> WINDIC: Your statement about actions is totally ok and correct BESIDES the little
fact that autoreply actions cant be used in PK. The rules action say explicitly:
"..their [i.e. the actions] use is forbidden in contexts
where they might provide an advantage on other players." which is clearly not the fact.

-- FREDDE: Well, ok...not everybody does use his own client programming. But SOMEBODY did it
for them and then Meliza (et al) must be punished for trusting these other ppl who gave
them this baldy programmed actions.

Yay, yer dick is pretty hard to notice anyway

That stupid childish commenting in the name of Dardhel has never been funny and now its OLD so fuck off with that?

Am I the only person who thinks that both sides should be punished, the hobbit for emulating game output and the orc for having pk triggers ??

Am I the only person who thinks that both sides should be punished, the hobbit for emulating game output and the orc for having pk triggers ??

EEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeine meeeeeenie meeeeeeeiniii moooooooooooeeeeee!!!!!!!1 (eller hur magica?)

I do not see the point of this log. I think I'll leave now.

gimilzor! you dont suck, cause u killed me once, but andreas and "adde" dont really fit together, adrian and "adde" fits, /my opinion)

Rofl...

What was that PAmaplinig?! :) I'm curious. And dear hobbits, you didn't get my shining, you stole my blood-thirsty hammer. I hope you liked you swines. /;)

Laff... I don't know if that was the "real" Dardhel commenting, but how the hell
can ANYONE have anything against an all around good-guy like Oin? :-(

well life sucks