19 con, 130 some moves, 210 hps... damn, thieves need more dodge.

instead of 19 con i would go 17 con? and get int up 2-3 points for some pracing of remove poison :p

I would like to see dodge tweaked a bit.

PANIC TRIGGER! DEMOTE!

Well Jahara should start working on his characters and playing skill instead of making
fancy whois pages...

Damn, I say it once, I say it 1000 times. Listen - if a sneaker is around, what do you do? You use flush. If a basher is around, what don't you do? Wait around for bash (trap). If a door is open, what do you do? You track. And if there's some players around spam poisoning everyone, what do you do? You get antidote. If you don't have it, now's the time to learn the lesson.

A crazy idea would have been to stop and ask fingeror for a rem and/or a bob...

Next time dismount the horse and sneak out of there. you *might* have survived

Relim, you are wrong: if there are groups of warriors spampoisoning everyone, you RENT.

Nah, disagree. You make two potions. Quaff one before you go out and keep the other handy. Then spam poison them! Worked nicely against Sharmak and his group, Shargl going down to arachnia and Mammoth and co low when they got away. Fight fire with fire, and keep a fire extinguisher handy. Or something.

The problem was that he was sneaking.

the problem was not that he was sneaking, he was also riding so it shouldn't have made a difference, and both relim and Norsu have some good points. Also ever try to run a loop and hide thor?

I don't know if antidote really would have made much difference. If the antidote was made before fighting the orcs then yes it would have made a difference. If antidote was made after he got poisoned he was dead. A short while after the fight mume ticked and he went to tired moves. There is a chance he could have survived from tired moves with a bob from a friend or a well placed hide...

Like I said, make poisons before you go out. Unless I have no ing (rare), I ALWAYS have a brown bottle in backpack...

How can you hide while arachniaed?

I don't know if its possible but I implying that he could have survived after quaffing antidote and being tired moves

Yeah, make antidote.. All herbs load in one zone east rdell, just learn it once

relim was very polite and explained it nicely to you, but I'll just say it my way...die you fucking loser, make antidote bottles and you will be fine.
DIEDIEDIE

This is why this game is REALLY starting to suck. Norsu and Co. is abusing the poison command. Its bad enough he’s to chicken to go out west by himself and he overkills and im sure he has super track. So what’s with the poison? I recommend making only certain weapons poison able (mostly piercers and arrows because it is a thief skill so lets make the thief weapons only poison able) So Norsu how many Pukes on your trophy have you gotten from FAIR (<-Key word) 1 vs. 1 NON-poisoning kills? Like what 4%?

Isn't track int+per? If so then an orc warrior would struggle to get super track since orcs have -3 base int

bah the rest of my post got cut off so here is what you missed.
So Norsu how many Pukes on your trophy have you gotten from FAIR (Key word) 1 vs. 1 NON-poisoning kills? Like what 4%?

Who gives a shit about fair, its war isn't it, your supposed to kill the opposite side?
I play for fun and I laugh my ass of everytime someone dies to poison.

Poison is dangerous crap. That' s why it really isn't used much. Poison needs to be changed to make it more dangerous to the user. For example, if u stumble or fall off a mount there should be a chance u poison yourself. If you are in battle, there should be chance of nicking somebody on your own side and poisoning them. Poisons shouldn't have that much of an immediate effect either. Maybe some nausea and a stuffy nose at first, but several hours before anything really drastic happens. Anyway, poison is another one of those things that has gotten out of hand, probably because a few V+ use it so don't expect change anytime soon.

This is one of those issues where real life and game mechanics don't jibe well at all. Why didn't people poison claymores in real life? Because if you get hit with a claymore, poison isn't exactly needed. :) Mume doesn't reflect this, and thus needs a coding change to bring the game in line, and the one that most sane people agree on is to make poison piercing-only (arrows and such included). It's crazy to let the hardest hitting class in the game wield the hardest hitting weapons and then let them get -bonus- damage/effects from poison as well.

I'll politely remind the pukes who use call lightning traps and bash traps to play fairly next time. I'll also ask the guys who trapped me 3 on 1 the other day, or the 15 (yes 15) pukes who tried to trap 2 orcs in stonedoor the other day to play fairly also. Or maybe have a nice even 2 on 2 fighting against Fingeror/Snick, but to make it fair ask them to go to seperate rooms and not use staff etc. Quit being retarded seems a more reasonable thing to ask. Our group fights ALOT of battles against same number groups and more, but nobody ever talks about those that we win. Usually we 4 (Uldrak took a break from his archpuking today *cackle*) win, cause pukes panic. Plain and simple.

Nod Everhate.
Why always whining about poison? There is an antidote out there. USE IT U MORON !! And about huge group, it's doesn't matters. In war if we meet 1 enemy do we will pass or kill? Think !!!! FUCK

OH PLEASE REMOVE COLORCODES NEXT TIME!

I don't think poison is as unfair as sun. Remove the sun, please, it gives way too much advantage to pukes and I can't even move 2 zones because of that stupid yellow eye.

Heh, when not using poisons 'common sense', how do you know if they suck or not? About antidote..., yep, this is old truth what relim said- make one before long travel, but quaff when some1 really is around (narrates/tracks/killed mobs). Herbs for antidote can be all easily collected even west of bree if that helps. And nice whine comments too:) Hint from: NewbieBasic v 1.0, IceCube.

whiners moo!

Pukes don't have advantages, they have 'features'!

I have as much respect for anyone who uses poison as the next guy, ie very
little respect. But if i was you, i would carry antidote, id get a
rem for fingeror and i would have gone forsaken inn. Plenty of things
u could have done, u did nothing. Still those poison whores are really
pathetic.

Antidote potions last about 2hour realtime nowadays (my last 2 atleast) so they ROCK! :-)(so you can have em always ready wo any prob at all)

poison wimpyfies. no risk no fun (but BOTH sides has to risk. Maybe guys in norsugroups think they suck so much that they are taking risks playing like this day after day after day after day. Applies for fingeror/lowyn groups too.)

and snottygroups?

and snottygroups?

Not quite sure what risks you take Snotty to justify making that statement.

Well spamming along oer to try to get in bree is apparently stupid imho =P