Didn't read it yet, too much beer inside me *burp*

who the hell is gonna read that???

You and your whole lab is a fucking huge pile of fudge, All of you will die every time I have the chance to kill you, Linkless or not

I preferred the version I couldn't read :) But you miss the point - it's not other people's problem that Hark is a tosser. It's Hark's problem, and he has paid many times over for it.

Wow u should write a book :)

And btw, I refreshed armour before my link went down, I have 260hps, Now you telling me that Hark stabs for 520hps? There is not many nonlegend stabbers who
can even stab for 260hps, so even if my armour would have, in some magical way went down, I wouldn't have died in 1 stab.

Ever considered that other ppl around could have hitted you before finding out that you linkless?

And I can't see why I shouldn't be allowed to kill Hark, He killed an orc linkless and ppl asked me to nuke him when they bashed, I asked Ainus first and they said it was ok. btw, You suck Vanamoor

Why you even bullshit about this Vanamoor? We all know that hark did the linklesskilling on purpose and then gave his labfucks the eq. ppl narrated I was linkless since they noticed, Hark took his chance and killed me while knowing I was linkless, then he loots, gives you eq and spamrents so ppl couldn't ask him about it.

Cagim you bitter because you are gonna go down?

Ok, I try telling you again Vanamoor, this time you will maybe understand this.
There is not going to be any demotion since I killed hark because of 2 resons.
1 ppl asked me to nuke him. 2. He killed an ORC(sameside if you didn't get it) linkless in warrens. Now is that not enough for any darkie to kill him? You think I would have killed him more or less because he killed mestan linkless?

I got my shining from Thalanthyr so stop bitching.

I can reliably state (as a bn thief who made it WITHOUT linkless killing) that legend stabs don't do 260 hps either. I wish all of you involved would grow up a bit....you put my 'whining' far to shame. You sound like my second graders at school: "He keeps touching me!" "He won't stop looking at me!" "She's picking her nose!"

it=warlord

WOW, you should start writing books!!!

Thanks I will

Oh, so thalantyr died linkless to hark too? Don't tell me you can get fair kills on ppl with link too?

ask him

Hark and Cagim and Vanamoor all 3 suck arse.

Vanamoor are you fucking stupid or what? I KNOW that NO ONE and I mean NO ONE who got link stand in same room to eat harms (YES HARMS SLOWASSPELL) from FULL hps and FRESH armour to dead, and IF I didn't have flag how come it says (while feeling in less control..blabla) in history? NSL is no more so don't whine about that thankyouverymuch. And I think we all saw the log while u nuked Gabriels warriorpuke on moors from healthy to dead, first starting with bolts but noticing he wasnt fleeing u used harms instead so that u would be 100% sure he would rip. If you can't get kills any other way than linkdead then I feel sorry for you. All Harks LD-kills dont even need to be mentioned here, I think we all know. And the fact that he told me, in exact words: 'I'm a BN, I feel like a God when I kill someone linkdead, sometimes I let them live, sometimes I don't.' I didn't have much against your lab or anything in the beginning, (especially not p(Lammoth), and I still got nothing against him) but when you attacked Brutux you crossed the line, that Eluk-guy deserves all he get after he assisted Olog in Warrens when Brutux were doing. No one touches Brutux :-) If I'm 'arrogant and bitching' just because I don't let you linklesskilling fuckheads fuck with me (not litterally..:)) then I'm very proud that I am, and I couldn't care less what you think about me, I know who my friends are. *snore*

Sniff that comment sure looks ugly :-) But if you guys read Vanamoors log why not this ... *hehe* :-)

finally power bitch spoke :) Nice words. So who's next?

Erm, why would anyone care enough about this game to write that. Get a life.

*nod* OM. My opinion - sameside killing is lame, not as bad as linkless killing but still lame. And sameside linkless is the worst of them all. I wish that gods would just make sameside pkilling illegal.

What a kindergarden this place sometimes is...

Btw. Did anyone read the whole thing?

Like sands through the hourglass, so are the Days of Our Lives...

Nod Celorfilas :)

Based upon the bullshit way Nacs / Naksur / Disco killed me 'mostly linkless' I tend not to think much of their integrity.

I was told that my stabs were doing 250+ on testmume a couple days ago. Don't know if this is true or not but I was told this

i would have read the whole thing but man.....learn how to write and spell!!! proof reading first would be a big help.

3 words, It's a game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And due that it's forbidden to make a statement 'bout players who ruin the fun of this game? Game is worth nothing if some1 breaks the rules. think bout that!

Well Bubby, if you consider that "It's" is actually a contraction of "It is" you really had 4 words to say. Which is still a few thousand less than Vanamoor, but still...

Anything reasonable coming in comments?

Play some counterstrike to take out the aggression that you build up during your mume sessions (which seem to consume most of the day for some ppl). Nothing like counterterrorist blood splattering on the wall to make you feel much better.

"All Harks linklesskills what followed Mestans death are the fault of those
ppl who made it their conserne to fuck with us". what a fucking crock of shit. thats the same time of excuses morons who shoot up schools "oh oh mean kids made fun of me so lots of people have to die". get a life

Sometimes it's good to calm your attidude, sometimes not. As said it's game so noone get shot. I hope.

So no one has comments 'bout the rule brakings that took place, no one.... who am I kidding I'm one of the Hark lab so no one dares to say something. And btw as I was the first to start MUME in this so called lab It should me VANAMOORLAB or shortly VANALAB. LEARN IT :)

where- Vanamoor - Morgul Vale *burp*

but in testmume ....

i'll read and croack

Whining this much about an internet text based game is kind of low... ;)

i'm gonna kill Hark, i'm gonna kill all from Hark lab, i'm gonna kill all from Gurgelfuck lab, i'm gonna kill all from all labs and sure i'll kill all nonlabbies too! muhahahahahahaha

are you kiodding me? this is pages and pages of pure text, no way i will read it :)

At 2001-07-09 17:22:42, Vanamoor commented:
And due that it's forbidden to make a statement 'bout players who ruin the fun of this game? Game is worth nothing if some1 breaks the rules. think bout that!

Exactly, lad. While linkless killing isn't against the rules, it's against the spirit of the game. Take away that, and it ain't no fun. I refer again to what you said about Hark - that it was other people's problems. It's his huge problem (especially if a game makes him feel like God - hoho!) and has resulted in a lot of ill-feeling with a lot of people. You trying to defend him isn't doing you any favours at all. think bout that! (sic)

seems you didnt read it. Was not ment as whining but as a warning to those players who i like. So you would know bout Cagim- his charsep, Naksur and his charsep, prolly sharmaks char sep, bout lothar beeing back with a new troll (prolly), bout whar beeing wimp and all that. So the next generation would know. Nuttin else.

ppl started attacking Hark BEFORE those linkless kills, based only on some measly treaths. i prolly didn't write it that good.

I DID read it, and I still find it a bunch of whining, albeit with warning in. I just think you got a LITTLE too upset about a game? ;)

a thought.. you chasing someone, they down to awful, enter room, they linkless. Do you kill linkless? Drop link? RIP

Oh really ? Seems Magica is doing a great job on blowjobbin' ya.
(and this is very real Hark here)

How long time did you spend writing this ? Write a summary of it for the ones who arent interested enaugh to read some 10 pages of text?

I readed it totally, and tho i really quited this time (all chars eqless/retired), i stil watch changes and etc in mume. Can say that mammoth/manaja/feriand/herold and sharmak/nacs/zubr +shadrach/ibrahim, cagim/mestan , mumma and valamir and some others are total fucks and lamers. Mammoth/sharmak used to be berserks, wtf now? only poison, stonedoor-traps, hugegrps and shit - no kills worth mentioning. Whine brings whines and hate grows from hate - truth is i have complained a lot and whined, but tho i got 50 trophies with tharain, only two were from trap (luckily mammoth/nacs:), some lowbies and cpl from raids, but others 'ok-kills' or so. Maybe i was breelegend, but atleast i didn't hang in grp of 10 nor overkilled. Solo kill on open fields is hard to get, usually ye get it when someone backfires his plans. Why did i quit? i died three times during three days to overkill with fullset i had just gathered (no lab nor 10 friends). i got really pissed and remarks by arrogant and rude fucks like mammoth (dunno how hold, who or where he lives irl) pissed me even more. I tried play fair, soloexped and shared eq. But lame lies and eq-greedy ppl ruined last attempts. MUME is ok game but ppl whine too much. When i started playing and died atb 9 times, 7 linkless, i had no urge to whine i died linkless - just thought 'bah, unfair shit'. Anyways, about vanamoor/hark - haven't died to them, pCymoril died to lammoth linkless (to hugegrp/or no flag) tho (scout on open field); but i surely can tell ppl claim they were linkless even when they have not a slightest reason. Never did this bymyself. So i can say to you vanamoor that DON'T wait ANY justice from mume-gods: they too busy, subjective and often ignorant (tho some of 'em are nice). Well, maybe i will be back with new account from scratch (gave old account to newbie rl friend) and new chars- then i make back what for what i feel sorry - killing sharmak with freez/ld/linkless (spared whining piece of shit when naksur died to NSL fag olorion/feon), i also avoid grping of wimps and pussies who only live for eq and talk shit. Dunno if anyone readed this long story by me, anyways i liked some ppl (FEW) and hope they enjoyed my acompany... they know themselves and i'd prolly forgot to mention some if i'd count names... Hope ppl didn't get totally wrong picture from me during my playtime (about 1.5 years) and i hope you ignore all arrogant ppl's and have fun. Cya maybe (51% chance), i'll catch ye then...

oh, and most cz's are lame too - smrt, shake and also remainings of NSL - they gain NOTHING with thier playingstyle, fucking strange fags (no fair play just shit). catchya kids...

Only a cheater suspects that every1 cheats!

Hmm, this reminds me of when I fought hark, for some 15 minutes, got him to low bad
and probably lowish on moves too. (hiding/quaking/tracking). He lost link.
I wait some 3-4 minutes. I kill with 1 fball.
5 minutes afterwards I get tells from someone in his lab (whitie) that he's gonna
sameside pk me til lvl 1... He was morgul valed at once, of course. Nothing
happened, but I dislike the spirits of those players.

In restrospect, I'll take NSL over eelabs and czlabs anyday. Most
of them were cool dudes, and could spell the words g-a-m-e and f-u-n. And, man,
how we whined about them at the time.

OK, the ones i am thinking about were SL rather then NSL, but, oh well...

Tharain makes me laugh hard! Try playing some darkis in summer with 42387423782783 insta tracking/find the path useing rangers! Then come to speak whats right and whats wrong! Try to go bree as solo or in group 2? I there are pukes online u get INSTA some 4 legends on u! And then u run e and run e and run e untill finally u get lb or warrens where most pukes dont dare to come! Then u get group of 3 they get more u get group of 4 they get more! And u talking about solokills at bree, LAFF! U arent solo! there are rangers/sun/etc so go eat shit and i am happy u quited this mud, less pukeplayes/whiners in this game. YEY I RULE!

Everyone playing from a lab should be banned!!!

so let me see if i got this right! you want to keep this between you and the other lab and post a fucking propaghandy log on mume.net gloryfying your lab and shit. oh now thats one smart move. just a few points i wanna know. what old super troll ever thought that secret/raichu was a tosser? the old an cool trolls that i can think of are cele roadkill rockfish khwaj lothar. prolly forgot some but i can asure you none of them thought that raichu was a tosser. and what the fuck is this about ughar. i was there and saw what happend. you and lammoth who started to chase ughar wasent there and dident know what happend so stfu? hark said that he would spam kill ughar to level one. so ughar killed his arse. then you and lammoth came along and said that ughar killed and looted hark and therefore should die. and then you say that ppl who dont know what the fuck is going on should stay they fuck away. hark has always been an ass. spamming come cellar come cellar! times 2999999999 then when he dies he complains on others that HE died, if he miss a kill he complains on others that its their fault that HE missed the kill. well this is getting boring iam gonna take a shower now.

How can you think I still want to keep this between ... Now I want those demotes I mentioned thats all.

mestan thinks armour gives him 520 hps from 260. hahahahahah HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH hahahahahaha hahHAHAHAHAHAhahahaha someone kill me i cant stand it

Linkless killing is lam.
Sameside killing is lam. *wink tsejov*
pages of text are v lam.
On a side note, relim you're well spoken , reckon you must be able to make the best excuses irl (looking at statement that quoted vainmoors)

begging for changes on mume.net is the way to go!!!!!!!! =) rogon is nuts

yey you sharmak DON'T rule, if you think killing clueless newbies and lowbies around bree/fnost rules you are total idiot (who you are anyways). Why to come bree if you gotta run soon anyways? how often you get any nameable kills even with traps/poisons and shit?? rlly rarely i recon, you are just pathetic to say you *rule*. Being experienced and ruling are two different things. And besides, last time i 'quited' it lasted 6-7 months, if i'll be back (don't think it's big threat) i will ruin your *ruling* any way i' able. (besides rangers should really changed, they only are able to kill solo bn's with shity link and etc, darkies shit their pants and woun't solo). And playing darkie? i hate dorcs and brainless trolls, tried this shit fuck you, i rather rp at shire you gameruiner!

Dear Rogon, If you for once would read my comment I said It would take a 520hps
stab to kill me with fresh armour, if my armour could absorb that amount of dmg.
Still It's very impossible for someone to kill a pukemage with armour up and 260maxhps or?

This endless verbosity puts me to shame. I aplaud both of you (though I can't really tell whos who as you both seem like lonely sad little teenagers with little or no chance of real human interaction in your futures).

Well at least you have heard the both sides opinion ...if you read it ... i did and heard the story from vanamoor also
I apologised in front of Hark from face to face because of some comments you read befor
Because i DID NOT know the story from their side... I'm not the member of so called 'harklab'
but ive played with guys and in summer im gonna play lotsa ...so i give ya free hands to label me also a linklesskiller
so my chars ..u wanna know them for flaming and killing ...YMIR and gebbeth from darkie side Daerandir and angrendal from whities
So HAVE FUN ,,, FLAME BLAMe and KILL

You know how this is called in my mother tongue?? Kindergarten.

"And btw, I refreshed armour before my link went down, I have 260hps, Now you telling me that Hark stabs for 520hps? " . . . . thats a direct quote from your comment. and no, hark doesnt stab for 520 hps, and you dont have 520 hps with fersh armour either. harrharrharr

Problem is that if you don't understand what I mean you are really alot more stupid then i though. Now tell me, If I got 260hps and armour spell on 52% how much should someone stab me for for an instant death? Let's say the armour is fresh. I don't know how to calculate it but since It would make alot sence to say that armour then abs 50% of the dmg, wich is the same thing as I would have 520hps. Now I know it doesn't work on that way since one armourspell can't abs that much dmg, but you get my point!, And if you don't It's really not worth explaining for you one more time. And there is still not a chance in the world that Anyone could kill Mestan(or any other pukemage with armour) in 1 stab.

Wenom killed Galadon with one stab when galadon had full armour and hps!

i'm gonna kill Hark, i'm gonna kill all from Hark lab, i'm gonna kill all from Gurgelfuck lab, i'm gonna kill all from all labs and sure i'll kill all nonlabbies too! muhahahahahahaha

I believe u get roughly 2 hps worth of abs for every % of armor u get from the arm spell. That means if u have 52% armour bonus (from the spell only), your armour will eat 104 hps. I could be wrong of course, but as far as I know thats how it works. So with your 260 hps and 52% armour (not counting metal or other abs eq worn if any), it would take approximately 364 hps of damage to kill you.

Stupid clueless whinerfucks.

Vanamoor, sa oled juba suur poiss, jäta nutt ja saa aru et see on ainult mäng. Get a life eks? Tõsiselt.

killing you and you lowbie was soooooooooo fun i wanna do it again!

miks sa unknown siis nime ei näita kui nii isa oled?:)

PK ISA

oinamunnikottipääluu oled mitte PKisa kuradi türaürask

Ok, I read the whole shit. And all the comments. Why post it if you don't want other players to interfere in your war? To get someone demoted? So you're a rat then? And I can tell, I will not die from the stab of a shitty not even legend Bn from absolut max hps. He knew I was linkdead, although I hadn't got a flag yet. Took me about 30 secs to reconnect, and I use linkdrop at 20. So that bullshit about using linkdrop to save against Hark's linkless kills are utterly crap. Go ahead and kill each other over and over again. Check if someone cares. I won't for sure.

My age 13-15 pupils are way more mature than most of you :-(

I love summer in warrens: time enough read the most long and boring things on mume.net...

Reading this log would give me a headache, i have sorta 0 mentals. anyways your pathetic accusations/excuses will be ignored, u will die if the opportunity is there. protect the biggest fakeass moron whimp in the game, and u die! harklab fuck!

The vanamoor coward did ofcos not fullfill the challenge he did to uldrak?

haha i remember reading that log fredde...

Well, nice and long and hard explaining work done:) Anyways, Vanamoor or Hirm or whoever, i DID really lost link in the described situation, believe it or not:), and i admit that it might have been hard to see. Didnt care much about it, just mentioned, thats all. Still wont care but ppl going ugly should pick another target next time. Yhes6naga mees, saan aru su frustratsioonist aga ära kohe valetamises syydista - tyhja mula pole ma kunagi ajand ei moron(laabide) ei linklesskillide kohta.

This is just amazing

Sorry guys... too bad to see all you beeing sooo pissed at each other. uff...
now too many ppl are in this shit. every1 got their point of view. and think they wont change it. just try to calm down now. and try to settle things...

too many comments btw :P

Huh... well since mume is down i'm reading old logs, althought i doubt anyone will comment on it or read the comments any more. I think posting this was the right move, since the other side really HAS been doing their own propaganda. In general i'll stay out of this unless you attack someone from my group. I think everyone has got their chance to statisfy their lust for killing by now, so maybe you should all now just cool down?

I posted it so ppl would understand why I attack them and would keep they nose out of it! Not giving me bullshit that brutux is a fine player- i protect him or Sharmak is my friend- don't attack him. They will all regret the day they attacked me!

I understand it's a game. So i shall take it but instead of chasing pukes all the time I will devote myself to rp. In tolk. orcs fighted amongthemselves. So shall they do in MUME. Nuttin personal.

Lollpea Cyrio, mina olin see kes sind valetamises süüdistas sest ma kokkisin vanamoori kõrval kui sa surid ja sa panid endale bobi mingi 2 seci enne stabi, OK ?
ROCKON :)

Cagim & Melinda ...who is this ORC who was killed (linkless) by Hark ... if you've got the name ask some high god to check harks trophy list to make it sure once and for all ...i personally doubt that Hark would be THAT crazy to kill an orc just for fun and then share eq between labmates. As you're protecting your friends i'm trying to do it also but in my way finding out the so called truth but- as you can see the stories of both side are completely different, so what is the decision? arithmetic average, i would say. well not completely average for who can be a judge if he/she knows one side quite well.
Some kind of personal effect is added to opinion.
I still think that negotiations would be better a if there are 2 fighting sides among darkies.i dont want negotiations between dark and white side :)
But this pk hunt is just stupid though i can say that Norman enjoys it :)
And you norman don't start flaming me for peaceful thoughts ... i am a true puke as you know quite well, I don't want to get involved in this shit.
though Tolkien had this line about orcs fighting inside also i think that this war has gone a bit far ... an orc who was killed in a book rarely got out of the hell, or whereever his soul went, for a revenge :)
cya

blehh 2 last lines ...skip it ...:)something is very wrong there :=

Ok now lets see, Vanamoor didn't admit that a single linkless kill was made with a flag. Thus he deems that we've had 3 cases where ppl post their death with a flag, yet obviously faked it. That I killed Hark for his threaths to kill me to lvl0 is true, after that? Well they proceeded to hunt me with Hark, Lammoth, Vanamoor and Mohk .. which is 4, not 2 as stated in this log. Vanamoor confessed 2 char separations here already. One being Norman killing Devastator, second being Hirm logging on after Vanamoor died to us. Oh and Vanamoor went wounded with one harm+smite and insta flees after that, I was casting my third harm? hihi. Oh and when he came back, he started with a harm on me, still he was bad me fine when Mammoth joined the fray and finished him :) anyways all I can say is Harklab rocks! free xps *wink*

I am the God of linklesskilling and nothing changes that.

Wryak your just patchetic. If I was bad as you say why didnt you finish me off by
youself. Was kinda naked and afk when you started harming me. Sure ppl go down afk
easily. Still if I get By a miracle Vanamoor out of Vale we wil have a duel and if
not then you'll die to someone whos comes from the wilderness of Cuba. You are
just the kind of wanker this story was not ment to. And bout free exp we'll see.

As i was afraid of this story didn't change anything. Nothing useful was added. Immos won't demote cagim for obvious char separation. Only one who goes down is me. I don't give a fuck. Beacuse I know that from above the vickid shall receive their punishment. And they will trust me.

*shiver Vanamoor* =P

Dwas remember how you mobripped in noc? Picked darktree open you fled in and ripped to gnarled got yer part in advance i'd say. If I only knew that your so stupid would have kept the eq.