Flee or not to fle, that is the question
posted by Sharmak
2001-07-16 18:17:05
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Hmm when i started playing this mud, ppl said u gotto flee sometimes also, and f
#Oh oh oh it is so fun! Some ppl say new flee is good but i will NEVER agree!



* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>SOUTH
Ruined King's Road
*Filin the Dunadan Man* is here, riding a warhorse.
*Norglin the Eriadorian Man* is STANDING here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
*Waldo the Dwarf* is STANDING here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
*an Elf* is standing here.
Exits: *North* *South*.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>SOUTH
*Filin the Dunadan Man* LEAVES ^^NORTH^^ riding a warhorse.
You swiftly dodge *Norglin the Eriadorian Man*'s attempt to pound you.
No way! 
You are fighting for your life!

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *Norglin the Eriadorian Man*:Healthy>WEST

*Waldo the Dwarf* pounds your left arm and tickles it.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *Norglin the Eriadorian Man*:Healthy>No way! 
You are fighting for your life!
You strongly slash *Norglin the Eriadorian Man*'s left hand and tickle it.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *Norglin the Eriadorian Man*:Fine>FLEE
*Filin the Dunadan Man* has arrived from the north riding a warhorse.
You flee head over heels.
Ruined King's Road
Exits: *North* *South*.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>
*Norglin the Eriadorian Man* has ARRIVED from the vv SOUTH vv
*a Dwarf* has ARRIVED from the vv SOUTH vv
*Waldo the Dwarf* has ARRIVED from the vv SOUTH vv
*a Dwarf* has ARRIVED from the vv SOUTH vv

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>
*Waldo the Dwarf* quickly approaches, trying to pound you.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Healthy>NORTH
No way! 
You are fighting for your life!

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Healthy>FLEE
NORTH
You flee head over heels.
*P*A*N*I*C*                  #YEY PANIC PANIC PANIC!

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Healthy>No way! 
You are fighting for your life!
*a Dwarf* quickly approaches, trying to pound you.
You suddenly notice *an Elf*.
*Filin the Dunadan Man* has arrived from the south riding a warhorse.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Healthy>
*a Dwarf* pounds your body hard.
You feel a strong ache there!
You strongly slash *Waldo the Dwarf*'s left arm and tickle it.

* R W C HP:Hurt Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Fine>FLEE
You are already attempting to flee!
*Norglin the Eriadorian Man* quickly approaches, trying to pound you.
*P*A*N*I*C*			#Some 3 secs later

* R W C HP:Hurt Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Fine>
*Norglin the Eriadorian Man* pounds your right leg very hard.

* R W C HP:Hurt Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Fine>
*Filin the Dunadan Man* slashes your body extremely hard.
You feel a strong ache there!

* R W C HP:Hurt Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Fine>
You flee head over heels.		#And more 3 secs later
Ruined King's Road
Exits: *North* *South*.

* R W C HP:Hurt Mana:Burning>NORTH
Ruined King's Road
*Norglin the Eriadorian Man* is STANDING here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
*Waldo the Dwarf* is STANDING here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
*an Elf* is standing here.
*Filin the Dunadan Man* is here, riding a warhorse.
Exits: *North* *South*.
*Filin the Dunadan Man* quickly approaches, trying to slash you.
*Waldo the Dwarf* pounds your right leg extremely hard.

* R W C HP:Hurt Mana:Burning *Filin the Dunadan Man*:Healthy>NORTH
--ARMOUR DOWN--
*a Dwarf* pounds your right arm extremely hard and shatters it.
You feel a strong ache there!

* R W C HP:Wounded Mana:Burning *Filin the Dunadan Man*:Healthy>No way! 
You are fighting for your
 life!
You flee head over heels.          #Wimpy flee!
Ruined King's Road
Exits: *North* *South*.

* R W C HP:Wounded Mana:Burning>FLEE
You flee head over heels.
Ruined King's Road
*Norglin the Eriadorian Man* is STANDING here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
*Waldo the Dwarf* is STANDING here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
*an Elf* is standing here.
*Filin the Dunadan Man* is here, riding a warhorse.
Exits: *North* *South*.
*a Dwarf* quickly approaches, trying to pound you.

* R W C HP:Wounded Mana:Burning *a Dwarf*:Healthy>
*Waldo the Dwarf* quickly approaches, trying to pound you.

* R W C HP:Wounded Mana:Burning *a Dwarf*:Healthy>
*Filin the Dunadan Man* slashes your body extremely hard and shatters it.
You flee head over heels.
*P*A*N*I*C*                  #More panic god these pure shamans rock ass

* R W C HP:Bad Mana:Burning *a Dwarf*:Healthy>
*P*A*N*I*C*		#Again i waited for long time for this message
You slash *a Dwarf*'s left arm and tickle it.

* R W C HP:Bad Mana:Burning *a Dwarf*:Fine>
You flee head over heels.               #Wow this was a fast one
Ruined King's Road
Exits: *North* *South*.

* R W C HP:Bad Mana:Burning>NORTH
Ruined King's Road
*Norglin the Eriadorian Man* is STANDING here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
*Waldo the Dwarf* is STANDING here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
*an Elf* is standing here.
*Filin the Dunadan Man* is here, riding a warhorse.
Exits: *North* *South*.
*Waldo the Dwarf* quickly approaches, trying to pound you.
*Filin the Dunadan Man* quickly approaches, trying to slash you.

* R W C HP:Bad Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Fine>
*Norglin the Eriadorian Man* LEAVES vv SOUTH vv.
*a Dwarf* LEAVES vv SOUTH vv.
*a Dwarf* LEAVES vv SOUTH vv.

* R W C HP:Bad Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Fine>
*an Elf* LEAVES vv SOUTH vv.
You flee head over heels.
*P*A*N*I*C*                  # GIVE TO ME BABY----------- PANIC!

* R W C HP:Bad Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Fine>FLEE
You are already attempting to flee!

* R W C HP:Bad Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Fine>
*Filin the Dunadan Man* slashes your left hand extremely hard and shatters it.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

* R W C HP:Bad Mana:Burning *Waldo the Dwarf*:Fine>
You flee head over heels.
Ruined King's Road
*Norglin the Eriadorian Man* is STANDING here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
*a Dwarf* is standing here.
Exits: *North* *South*.

* R W C HP:Bad Mana:Burning>
*a Dwarf* pounds your head extremely hard and shatters it.
You feel a strong ache there!
You are incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.

* W C HP:Awful Mana:Burning *a Dwarf*:Fine>SOUTH
You are in a pretty bad shape, unable to do anything!

* W C HP:Awful Mana:Burning *a Dwarf*:Fine>
You feel a strong ache there!
You lost some renown in this battle!
Ouch! 
You lose a level!

You are dead! Sorry...

#I was on my good link this time, and i think i never woulda died in 
this situation with old flee ;P Go figure!
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Devastator2001-07-16 18:23:10
Sigh....... all post an idea how to change the new flee, a constructive idea on the mume postboard. Do it all. I posted 2 ideas already, spam the idea board so they change it.
Skojardu2001-07-16 18:23:58
Who wana go solo when its like this?
I vote for bigger group and more traps - like all the rescent changes has been for.
Fredde to skoja2001-07-16 18:27:14
you elk!
Miffle2001-07-16 18:50:21
There's nothing at all wrong with the flee system as evidenced by this log. How much should flee work? You got away several times and didn't get far enough is all. It will be a good thing if flee becomes more an escape tool and less the offensive weapon it has been (i.e., using casting/flee). The way it was before was ridiculous.
Sharmak2001-07-16 18:52:50
Who the fuck is Miffle? And what a fuck do u know? I died cos i ate so much damage between flee attempts so stfu!
Prist2001-07-16 18:57:05
Mmmmm... maxattack def pukechar using pierce... or better yet orc... goodie, will create one today :)
Gilbrethil2001-07-16 18:57:35
those flee attempts are so slow that they totally blow: with 20 dex i stil get freaking hittied badly with 150 defence cuz this just sux...*slow*. Else of system is ok, nuff said
Unknown2001-07-16 19:02:21
new flee forcing europeans to deal with the knowledge that they're not so skillful and that there success was cause of there link
Rackhir2001-07-16 19:06:31
Sharmak you hugegroup every day and all day and you die to a huge group learn to live with it and dont whine on new flee if you wanna whine on new flee go make a fucking aratar or something and change it! dont fucking whine!
Link cant save2001-07-16 19:06:37
hahahahaha
Sharmak2001-07-16 19:13:15
I whine how much i want get it? Just dont read if u dont like? And Rackhir u are a PUKE a pointless being a useless idiot etc! U pukes made me overkill! When i went west u get tons to kill me and if i get tons to just fight pukes off u whine like bitches! So just go die someplace will ya?
Haazheel2001-07-16 19:23:36
Just after flee change was made, my going up from 3rd place in warlords was stopped, even retired Tezcatlipoca to get him 16-17 dex....
Lina2001-07-16 19:27:12
the thing is, i could spam fleeeeeeeee alot and get safe somehow, even when i got back in, i got approach
maybe when you have a sucky link(i had 2000 ms today) x_x it comes in handy, but not with 90 ms (my normal link)links :/
blackfoot2001-07-16 19:29:43
well this means you dont want to be caught as orc, with 6 puke legends, in sun, in bottleneck. sounds about right to me
faint2001-07-16 19:33:56
i like you sharmak, i really do! But i agree with miffle, flee shoudl be a escape thing. And as i said before, before this change, people was whining about killing decent players in openw as impossile. Well new flee is the answer...
Steele2001-07-16 19:39:27
You could have lived Sharmak. Don't spam directions after fleeing. After finally fleeing 5 times BACK into room after spamming N, why not type S and let the seconds go by before walking back. They all were SPAMMING hit orc and they would have toned it down some after moving s for a bit. True, the flee system might need some work, but overall I think it's good (especially for me since I don't even use a client and haven't resorted to saying 'oh, I forgot to turn my auto-flee action off!').
Korgan2001-07-16 19:45:44
Whine it up sharmak you little bitch. Morhol portals you and some other dreadful in on my korgan(level 18) feck(level 21) and fock(level 11) 3 legend darkies to slay 3 lowbies ......whine it up...glad we got our overkill revenge...btw
*a Dwarf* pounds your head extremely hard and shatters it.
You feel a strong ache there!
You are incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.

thats from me you bastard...die more i got 114k xp of that bitch

Morgan2001-07-16 19:46:07
above comment was me...used wrong name
Sharmak2001-07-16 20:21:17
Laff korgan it was in tbad u idiot! and we didnt portal there!
shydae2001-07-16 20:38:41
people who say that the flee rounds are too slow definitely have a point.
I can't believe that even the badlinked had *THAT* big lags between. All you can do now is lean back and watch yourself die. I havent tested my low encumbrance, 20 dex, superb attack thief yet, though. They should in all fairness decrease the base length of the attack round. And huge fastlinked groups are almost impossible to survive.
Skojardu2001-07-16 20:58:20
Seems most people havent figured that slow linked gonna suffer alot - you flee -im gonna be at the room you fleed before you even can type a dir = R.i.p because new flee stops you from fleeing again. It do stop spamfleeing super linked people to but it also makes people not wana go solo - which is see as a big downside (just as approach did).
name intentiona2001-07-16 20:59:01
i love to see sharmak rip, post more like this
Sharmak2001-07-16 21:03:38
God i how i love when pukes hate me ;)
ditto as above2001-07-16 21:03:56
die sharmak die!
Sharmak2001-07-16 21:04:57
HATE ME HATE ME COS U NEVER CAN TAKE ME!
Devastator2001-07-17 00:17:00
Just make fleerounds shorter... as I said I posted 2 ideas for it... huge nod skojardu u got the point.
Arelion2001-07-17 01:54:30
Morgan keeps saying he got 114k for sharmak. i hate to be the one to say this but that's impos.
Fezz2001-07-17 02:01:55
ROCK ON WALDO! and btw cant u only get a max of 100k per kill?
Steele2001-07-17 03:22:28
14k from hitting the fucka?
Dork2001-07-17 05:05:20
Skojardu, what a stupid comment.
Dork2001-07-17 12:36:43
Stop using my name!
Natash2001-07-17 12:47:38
Uhm, for ppl whining about ppl with european links... I am european, and played a year with 300ms link on average. That not good compared to what i now have. Back then only way to flee group of opponents (the fastlinked/spammy types, Norsu, Elestir et al.) was to spam flee a bit and spam away. Flee giving you 4 random rooms was confusing both to me and opponents. Now if i flee, and spam dirs (for example w/n) i am too slow if i spam wrong dir in the wrong room (Alas, you cannot go that way!, shortly followed by 1-4.*Orc* pounds/approaches extremely hard :). New flee screws both good and bad links, it just prevents ppl from soloing. Any1 know any decent mud which doesn't have a policy on removing all soloplay?
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