Unless this his 10,000th death (which must be close), what's the big deal. Mammoth is just another spam corpse like Gabriel and a few others who aren't penalized enough for dying (which is kinda the ultimate "loss" everyplace but mume) and keep coming back for more. Gotta love their persistence, though, even if they are a mockery of the game. *sigh*

heh, mammoth died? didnt know that..

FUCK THIS NEW FLEE. What's the point of fighting till bad?
That flee just works fine when u're fine
But when u get down to bad it just FUCKS YOU UP.

POINTLESS change!!!! P O I N T L E S S !

Doesn't depend upon skill anymore if you survive. Just on luck - which is sick!

go portaltrap as usually do mammoth!

wow, pretty kewl and long fight

Join the club Mammoth... *comf* and *spit@flee system*

We are so happy that the fuck died thank you all, that little retarded estonian have been a plague for all players, some just dont understand it yet.

Well, Mammoth is right though. Kind of retarded that your deaths now are based on a large amount of luck. Oops, I failed a flee, now let me sit here like an idiot doing nothing hoping game mechanics eventually let me play again. New flee is just plain gay. Yet another change you rarely hear anyone say good things about, alot like making wps nonvisible. The GH legends cheer, they people who really play the game get boned over.

*cheers over invisible wps* =X Was it something I said? Personally, I like the new flee only when fleeing a trap (and non-blocked-door) cause then I ain't gotta worry 'bout fleeing and opening door. But otherwise, like everyone else has said, it's too slow. I wish wps were back to #'s, single warlord list, and yes, I wish Rad would come back and play again, because he deletes in one month!

The gods thought that this change would decrease trapping since more people would die on non-trap fights. What's the difference? Trapped by a blocked door or trapped by the fleesystem? At least when you are blocked in, you have SOME level of control over your chance of escaping. I'm with the rest of you ... this system just sucks.

Gee, Mammoth, you failed only two flees. This has nothing to do with new flee.

It takes more skill to not die now when you are more hurt. 'nuff said.

I fail to see the tragedy of new flee. I really do. All every single player says is "it sucks, remove it, get back the old one". And the point is..?

Comforts to Mammoth.

And btw, could you unknown dickheads plz show your names so we can see what great chars you play and laugh. 1st unknown probably some storeporter since he mocks Mammoth for dying much, and I bet the second one died 12 times to Mammoth the last week :/

I for one see exactly what the problem is, Mammoth. It's outrageous. You deserve much better and nobody will blame you for quitting. Take Everhate with you. Have a good life together. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Nice knowing you. Bye.

how bout when you make dex SO dependant we at least get rerolls eh :p, 10 dex shamans sure don't do so great in this newe system you developed.

I must agree with Mammoth that the new flee system sucks...

*shrug*, I wrote to immo board if we could at least have free _limited_ rerolls... guess what was the answer I got from V+? Retire! *stare*

I totally agree with Mammoth!

Try "help retire", Prist, if you're clueless about the term.

I vote we all get full reroll if we keep our chars retired for 9 months! Hell, I'd start playin' lowbies again!

You didn't see the whole log Manwe so please!!

Before that i was on a dwarf at wounded hps, typed flee.. failed 4
the thing isn't that i failed 2! Thing is with old flee i would've S P A M F L ED
and got at LEAST 4 flees in during same time.

Just before elfie bolted me i was engaged to dwarf as i said.. failed 4 flees,
and so while sitting there unable to do anything but watch, i turned mood wimpy
and closed stonetrap/Metaldoor since we were actually winning with mobs
when dwarf fled I wasn't engaged so the system stopped fleeing with me,
now came in the close metaldoor and close metaldoor so elf had enough time to bolt me
but after that i was ready to flee again which i did, with old system i would've spammed it 4 times for safety
and !!! WOULD*VE GOTTEN OUT!! GRRRR

What's next? Autofollow your enemies? Like 1 room per 2 secs.. so pk wouldn't depend on link but on ?? what!!

Once again so perhaps even Manwe gets it - with old system fast ppl could risk a bit
because mostly fleeing from a battle relied on theyr own speed, but now... pff
relies on luck mostly. Ofcourse you could do some 19dex warrior maxweaponskill/light eq
with new system and be pretty much as fast as you were with old flee but hell!! What about all the other classes

Would it make a difference if Flee were coded to give more opportunities
when you are engaged by more opponents? Kind of a Fear Factor. I dont
understand exactly when the attempt comes in the current system, but perhaps
when each person tries to hit you/approach after you have instigated the flee
command. i guess not much help vs non-engaged casters, but the game has never
favoured fleeing versus magic. Just a thought.

Well Mammoth, i got 18 dex slashing warrior and wearing light eq, failed 6 flees and sk and died like pig... and Manwe, if it IS Manwe and not some moron Unknown, just give me some good reasons why cannot we get free limited reroll, i don't care, just ONE free limited reroll per account at least? Why da fuck do I have to sit whole rl month scratching my balls while all my chars are in retirement just because that change is a bit fucked?

How is a limited reroll going to help you any? Going from 10 dex to 12 isn't going to help you at all. Rerolls are so limited you can do crap with em really.

None of my chars has 10 dex, most of them have 11-12... and it's possible to raise dex from 12 to 15 easily and with 15 i _believe_ it _should_ be playable...

Mammoth, now you've sold me on the new flee system once and for all. What a wuss. With the old flee "fast ppl could risk a bit" and save themselves with all the skill it takes to play a fast link? Try playing without a client and wearing mittens. Then you get some idea of what it takes to play with some strategy and skill on a slow link. You take whining to a new level. Boo hoo hoo. You lost some advantage to the super advantage your link gives you. You don't like it, quit already. And take Prist with you.

Playing without Client is your own stupidity. And playing on a slow link - same.
Or if on a slow link don't risk.. that's it! end of story.
Clueful ppl with slow link (nazgum) could flee better than they do now.
So please shut your newbie trash.
Fuck you, I lost the ability to risk! Nothing more nothing less.

I've been playing from 300ms link all summer... anyone calls me superlinker?

i like new flee :P Manwe on the other hand, does suck :P

Go fuck yourself mammoth and your little dog Prist, too. You lost the abiltity to "risk." Boo-hoo-bullshit, you just aint the guts to take a risk. The game was all fun and good times when your link gave you an advantage that minimized risk to your wussy comfort level---and even at that you've been nothing but a walking corpse on your best days. Your sleezy clients aint nothing but cheating machines and should be banned altogether.

Lol, *a snail* never seen ppl so full of crap. Yes it was easyer for me to flee
with old system, yes i'm losing that advantage! YEs i'm pissed.. and so are a lot of other ppl.
!!!

A snail if you trying to say i can't stay alive with new flee, i can but i just have to pussie out like you usually do, on HURT! I DONT WANT THAT

Stop your little hussie fit and flee whenever you want. If you're too chickenshit to hang in and take your change with fleeing, that's your problem. Entirely. You don't have a clue if and when I flee, cause I ain't posting whine logs/comments every time I get a boo-boo. (And *laugh* you couldn't stay alive with old flee except when you were hiding behind a group of 10. Get real.) Just quit already.

Comf mate, really comf =P U know what? I failed flee at grinder with Ginlon Forin
Fingeror and Just fighting me ate a bash and fled out at bad =P rofl rofl new flee suuux =P

Get real a snail! I could beat your ass any time - you know that. Clueless fuck tellin me i can't play! Grrr
And did I post this log? Was this a whinelog? FUcking IDIOT PRICK!

Did you post whiny, snivelling comments? Why, yes you did! Again. You're a wonderful player. I'm just afraid somebody's gonna trip over your corpse one of these days and hurt themselves. Take some Geritol and maybe a vitamin B shot and relax you senile old twit. This can't be good for your BLooD PReSSUrE!!!