mowie wowie!

maui wowie!

meowie owie! didn't mean to post it twice!

The linkless shall rise again! We shall overcome!

erm... did you edit out your spam? looks like all you did was close the gate, Celorfilas opens the gate and you get an unlucky flee in, they pursue and end up blocking the gate... whine all you want, but please at least post something that backs your story up :/

I didn't edit a thing, and if you are too stupid to find the commands I entered that ain't my problem. Oh wait, I don't use key bindings, so maybe you are confused by someone actually typing a direction like s in.

You only tried to close once, you should know better as an american.

Jesus, use your name idiot, im so tired of you pussies not using your names

Sorry Everhate, but you sucked hard there. Nod Deor.

I do it to irritate ppl like yourself D! ;)

Dont let me hit your ass on the way out. Fucking wont be missed a bit.

Well nice to see that the one that play so so safe dies aswell. No pity from this keyboard.

nice flee :)

Hmm you died, who cares? Pukes made 100k exp each. Bad link? Who cares about your link, you are well known linkless killer. Sit somewhere in GH and collect herbs.

Die pig die!

even tho i hate all over powerd leaders.. because of the fact.. i just ant as good... i dont like this log one bit.. Everhate V Elestir.. that would be a good show... not EVERHATE V A TOWN ***AND*** ELESTIR AND CO... come on ppl.. any1 who knows me knows.. i dont really like everhate.. but on this side.. i think it was extrem overkill.. fuck.. why even block?? let the guards insta hit..

Hrm. Danced a few times with you, mostly when you're with others ... so never really stood much of a chance. While you have my sympathy (I play from a horrible link at home), this is slightly hypocritical, no? I mean, you, Norsu and co have done this to many a poor puke at times...

Slightly htpocritical? Pardon? Everhate always laughed on anyone who died thisway, and now he forgets it and waits for some comforting or anything in that matter? Get real.

Wasnt you Norsu's asslicker? what you whine???

Come now, we all have our moments of unforgiveable ego - and we all pay for them. Everhate was okay in my book, just it's easy to forget (for Axel, it seems :P) that this is what him and norsu and co did to others to.

I think you meant Ajax Relim.

What if the gatekeeper would close gate and that pukes would need to call to get it open, that would make it lesser easy to flee in and stuff.

Perhaps its human nature or just a need for some area of ones life where one can have an ego but it never ceases to amaze me how arrogant, indeed ignorant, some of the better linked players are. If it makes you feel better then I guess its all down to skill...cough cough. Everhate is a great player who plays on a dreadful link and kills many many players solo or with a group he leads. He is right though, he can't compete against super-linked labs though and quite frankly why would he want to? Where is the challenge in playing with such an advantage? Ask yourself this: Would a player like Everhate be any good on a sub 100ms link? The reason he gets so many comments is because he is good and good players always get abuse from those they have whacked in the past.

Excuse me, but if he is so good the why he followed Norsu 24/7?:/

Excuse me, but if he is so good then why he followed Norsu 24/7?:/

Obviously you have not been paying attention. Sure he followed Norsu (who wouldn't) but if you played Orc at night US time Everhate was the only orc who would lead and make any effort to engage pukes (usually very successfully). Also, how often has Norsu played of late? Rarely it seems and and when he does, Norsu only group with good players.

Norsu groups with warriors lvl 40+ in fullshinging&warsword and shaman to rem. Yes, those players are also clueful and skilled (some) but this doesn't make rest of mume society bad if they blame overpowered hugegrper. Isn't it so?

Mume is a punitive mud. The higher your level, the more it punishes you. The better your gear, the worse each death is. If you have a bad link, you're screwed. If you have a good link you count on having a good link, then when it goes bad you're screwed. If you flee, you'll find out later you should have stayed. If you stay, you'll find out by dying that you should have fled. The more you play, the more you come to appreciate how you can't ever avoid being screwed for any significant length of time. Anyone who thinks "If I could just get 'X', then I'd stop getting screwed" is naive. If you don't like watching the characters you spend so much time making getting beaten around like red-haired stepchildren, then mume is not for you. Mume management -wants- you to die, they -want- you to lose your gear, they -want- you to move two steps backwards for every step forward you take, and they will add any code and make any changes to enforce those wants. Play with this in mind, and you won't feel so bad when the inevitable happens.

And stil people play mume and think they can ever be safe 8) Totally wrong - even if you are lvl 70+ with 200 defense or offense and 10 scrolls and 5 rocks and 30ms link +lab and shit, stil you get screwed CUZ MANAGMENT DOESN'T WANT MUME TO BE SAFE MUD:) This may sound cool but isn't. MUD's are pointless like any computer game, but here you must work harder soooooooo.......

I'm sorry to break it to you Everhate, but this what hapend to you, hapend to
all of us(maybe an exception with those who allways outnumber their enemies so
they don't have to flee at all), fast linked or slow linked, it's all the same.
This had more to do with luck and bad luck.The horrible truth is that you can't
spam close at the same time as you type flee. If your enemy is spam opening the
gate he has an advantage over you in this situation at the exact moment you are
fleeing, and there is nothing you can do about it. Ofcourse you could have fled
some other direction then south, or even fled when the gate was closed, but this
time you didn't. And you dear Lochdale, sometimes you sound like an old woman
grumbling over her low old age pension. For you it's allways the the slow linked
players who are the best ones and the most skilled ones. If they would move on to
a faster link the would automatically qualify as bad players relying on nothing
but their link. :) There are good and bad players no matter what link you have.
Everhate is one of the good ones who had some bad luck this time, but it's still
not the end of the world. This could have hapend to anyone and it had nothing
to do with the link. This is my contribution to whine.net for today. Have fun
guys, and play safe.

Me vs Elestir is not a good fight. Elestir is a defense warrior who has to rely on others to kill for him cause he simply does no damage unless he has an artifact. His purpose is to sit there and buff while his mages spam nuke. As for Deor, what would having spammed the gate closed more than once have done? I closed the gate so I wouldn't flee in, but if people like Celorfilas whole whole is to flee me inside I can't spam close gate AND flee at same time. Sure, if I had the free time like Elistir and could play 24-7 and do Unqualome and other smobs all day I'd have had rocks and scrolls to live there with. If I had a better link I could have spammed out after I fled in (well, at least a possibility of it).

By examining the log closer i notice you didn't enter the commands right after
eachother. You waited with the s command to the point where you were already
inside the gate. If you typed flee;s or something like that you COULd as you say
have had a chance to walk straight out without beeing hit by the mobs, but you didn't.
Still, with the new improved mobs agression code i think it would have been impossible
to NOT get hit instantly. Still if your link is slow i dont understand why you
wait with typing s until youre already inside, if you expected to flee inside.
This may have been your one and only misstake. Lost of bad luck still.

Can't close and flee at the same time...forget about new wimpy? Set max wimpy and spam close....

well, well, all ppl die sometime(even level 70+ hyper linked freaks!) so whats the point whining? everyone dies someday, just face it!

Why don't I ever get idiots suiciding to me like this moron Everhate did here?? Instead of having alias open gate s ready, in case he flees in, he has to stop and make an alias for it giving them time to Block it.

(sarcasm -off)

Er. Why am I the bad guy. Elestir and Donald were there because I was wounded/frozen/slow inside there with s gate bashed and 4 orcs waiting to kill me. 3 min earlier you tried to lure me to roots trap with 4/5 orcs there. You were the one silly enough to come back after your orc buddies left, you knew our numbers. Er.. why am I the bad guy?

*LOL* U SUCK!!!

Everhate is one of them old players who's still using raw telnet. "Spamming"
might be rough. Instead of just hitting two/ont button(s) like most of us he
has to type and stuff (heard about that once). So it's slower to "cga, f, oga s,
f" etc etc.

...commented as the Unknown just before. Oooops.

I like it when the 10 ms people tell us it's all the same no matter what link you have ROTFL

That place is total puketrapspot, any experienced pk'er should stay away from that place.

*nod Sloshed* I still leave open my invitation for any fast-linked player to stop by my house and play for a while. Strangely, nobody has taken me up on the offer. I guess it's simply easier to associate link speed with skill rather than to credit a victory to link speed. Also, *nod Lahnborg* for realizing that some people still use raw telnet...

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot>#alias b open gate s
# {b} now aliases {open gate s}.

Playing mume with raw telnet vs all the people with clients programmed to autofollow/hit, autotrack, etc....isnt that sort of like bringing a knife to a gunfight?

NIIIIICE Elestir overkills once again, delete elestir.

you're beeing silly sloshed, or just not very bright. First of all, who has 10 ms?
I have never heard of anyone with 10 ms. Second, who said anything about
"it doesn't matter what link you have?" Maybe you should take english lessons too?
I think you just read what you want to read,... retard.

Come on now Jocke, calling me an old woman was one thing but calling Sloshed retarded...well thats child abuse. (Just kidding Sloshed). Further, I think you missed my point Jocke, I was not suggesting that those with a good link are not skillful but rather that those with a good link often tend to confuse the link with actual skill. An excellant example of this would be some of the many newbie lab players or other Swedes who warlord yet have difficulty getting from Rivendell to NOC. Further, killing slowlinked American ppls out in the open because you can enter a room and hit before their flee goes through is skillful how? Please explain Jocke (and try not to be insulting, such is the last resort of those who have lost the argument). There are many, many skillful players who just happen to have good links (you are amongst them Jocke) but I would be argue that it does take a little extra effort when your link + loss is nowhere near as good as your opponents.

Actually Jocke, those initial commands were all spammed one after each other. That's just how fast they get sent on a slow link heh.

The retard was ment to be you Lochdale. :) sorry about the choice of words, i was
in a hurry and in a bad mood. *apol* Anyway, it doesn't look like you even TRY
to interpret what some ppl write. This time it was like you just skimed through
the text and then came to a hasty conclutions, in your comment, that had no foundation.
*hug*