forgot to whine some ... use your imagination, if u miss it :P

arf!

I heard Elestir had flag too ... you guys really didn't notice that a 180 def elf was linkless with 2 lowbies and 1 scout? :-) Then I was watching Cave with my elf, and saw some trolls (nonames to me then) talking about that Elestir deserved it because he was 'such a hoarder' etc, sounded like they deliberately did it...

thanks to those pukes that dont killed me linkless west winds (i forgot names fast, but maybe it was Khazdul and Drenical?).
Decent pukes are hard to find...

At least elestir didn't have any rocks left for the linkless killers. *wink Naomi*

SHUDDUPALREDDY!!!!

TWO people with flag killed? ouch that's nasty! Not any surprise tho, some people do anything to get war points. And Ling, of course they did it on purpose, lowbies like that musta had alot of work killing elestir, even with flag.

Don't be so quick to blame for gods sake. When Bellows fled I went after him to lastinn. I wasn't even there when you supposively lost link. So go post your whine log somewhere else ya wanker.

I don't blame you, Grishelda. You are well-known plaeyr from the old-school with good reputation (bad on evil side of course. =) ). This is not first and even not last obvious linklesskill and until it is legal, you can only post on whine.net.

Well first i hitted Elestir in moors with Surm. Well i saw something is strange
that he wont flee from 2 orcs we bashed him some 2 times and got hurt btw no flag
in this time.Well prolly start wimpy flee and i ntocied that something is trange
and i spammed away. But trolls come and other orc and kicked his ass :-(

if i found someone (elestir) who is always in 5+ poofter group i'd kill the cunt linkless too. 5 times over

It seems it is game over for Elestir. (at least he told me something like that)

thankx for guarding our us, when u noticed, we are linkless

Elestir had no flag....dwarf had...but trolls did him anyway

mail me names of everyone who was in linkless kill on Elestir on Starobahno, those who were in eq sharing too
Czech republic can't tolarate this anymore , all trolls who were there will be sunkilled and orcs will be mobkilled 5 levels , who
was in eq sharing will be killed and corpse burned

Mochomurka

From now i start to sundie all fucking trolls i will see with any my char, doesn't matter who (i spare only ppl i realy know are not so fucking morons) till these fuckers who did this will be over level 1 :(

Daz, we all know you would kill any1 linkless, be it hoarder or not. You already proved that with your other chars (Rza, etc). I don't know who plays the trolls who killed us, but any1 who has database of linklesskillers can add these names to it: Dizz Thilax Valkyria Glithraril and the others Starobahno mentioned, except for Grishelda I guess.

Ellara is my favorite, Ellara to president !

Wow...now im really proud of what i did elestir...i really felt bad after u died when
i got to know you were linkless..(without flag )..but know i realize you are just the
dick people say you are..ill gladly kill you linkless WITH FLAG again for being such a lamer. And for mucho... why dont you add daaz about all darkies in cave the minutes after the kill , they all got scrolls from troll who looted pouch. I cant believe you act like this elestir for being ld killed ..without flag..happened to me several times and i havent whined a single time about it...I cant believe YOU!!

Act like what? You expect me to be happy? No I am not happy, because assholes like you and those trolls play this game and ruin it for others. Or maybe you were not smart enough to find out we were linkless, then sorry, but ignorance is no excuse. You felt really bad? Oh *comf*, but it passed I guess. Maybe I should even apologize that I made you feel so bad, but sorry, I won't.

DON"T EVEN THINK ABOUT SUNDIEING ME I HAD ABOSTULTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS

Anyone sunkilling trolls in general because of the actions of a couple of people are just as bad as those rednecks who want to kill all arabs because some are terrorists. Get the right person, or don't do it at all. And if everyone on mume who'd ever killed someone linkless had their character wiped it would be a ghost mud, so let's not get -too- righteous, shall we? *smirk*

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhho :) just drunky

Anyway mume is now overpopulated with trolls. And why not sundie trolls when that is NORMAL part of game (it is coded like that) ?? Gime any reason Vorlin please ? Before unarmed change when were some 5-10 trolls on max, they were mostly good players who took the chalenge of hard_to_play chars, now every brainless fucker play trolls. I NEVER sundied any trolls before changes, but tell me why not now, even when i mentioned that i spare those i know are fair players ??

The poison is still in my brain.

Fragir, what have I done to you that you want to sunkill me?

What a bunch of fuckin whiners. I hope they imp "no-linkless flag killing" so Mume dies a quick death when people start dropping link to avoid pk (as is already often the case). It's what you dumbfuck shitforbrains crybabies deserve. I hope people like Mochomurka get caught seeking some kind of twisted revenge, too, so they get their account deleted. Bunchamorons.

Please once more, if i'm going to sundie anyone from any personal reason, then it will be one of those 3 fucktrolls. The comment above was mentioned in general way about "powefull unarmed trolls" and troll overpopulating the arda :)
Sure i have nothing vs pStah. But maybe u can tell me why is sundeath implemented ?? Why is troll most easy ext-to-legend char ?? And why is he now most dmg-can-do warrior atm ?? No point to sundie trolls when they were hard to play and were quite rare, but why not now when there are 10-20 trolls on all the time spaming in groups of 3+ and spamkilling all in their way ??

Fragir DO NOT KILL SUNKILL ME.

Well, one reason I might give would be purely selfish: I have an olog troll from back in the 'no trolls on' days, leveled up when every 15 minutes a 6-pack of superpukes would sweep the warrens. I'd hate to lose him because of what someone else did *wink*. A better, more generic, reason would be that any 'ultimate' punishment should be used with restraint, otherwise you have lost your only method of control. If every trolls start being sunkilled left and right, then -no- troll will ever behave in a reasonable fashion again. /par/ It's been my experience in the past that trolls from time to time come into fashion with assholes. There are just a certain number of assholes on mume that gravitate to whatever they currently see as the class being most capable of their type of 'fun' (hobbits that same-side steal, orc stabbers that same-side kill, trolls that kill bns/orcs, etc.). Once again, punishing every member of a class because of a sub-set of jerks within it just isn't reasonable. BTW, it's also been my experience that these players either change their bad habits or get eliminated by their own side (I've killed trolls myself who had attacked bns in the cave). So unless 'jerk' trolls become so completely dominant that the older 'civilized' trolls lose all control, I'd say some patience will resolve this particular issue.

And just as a side note, please don't begrudge the trolls their (so to speak *grin*) day in the sun. As noted above, for months they were just a miserable class to play, unable to hit anything with their best weapons, and with about a 50% chance that every time you tried to log on you'd either find noone around, or find 6-8 superultramaxequippedgoober pukes sitting at Grinder waiting to pick you off. I'm sure they'll be nerfed again once they show themselves to be fun to play (*smirk*), so just be patient for a bit and let them have some fun. :)

Well I definately don't agree with that sundying all trolls bullshit, I mean what kind of freak would sundie ologs on purpose... Those 3 trolls in the log havent commented yet. Hmm wonder why. Anyway, about sundying trolls... how can anyone take away someone elses rl-time they've spent on levelling those chars up etc, I really don't get it. Like I don't get how these troll-players in log could kill 2 linkless chars, you were horny for the eq and exp or what? The splitting of scrolls and stuff in Cave later was disgusting, u guys happily splitted linklessloot and talking about how much Elestir deserved it. Too bad I didn't see many trollnames either...

Most trolls wouldn't ld kill pukes anyways. I remember an elf who was casting up around warren forest, couple of people in group exping wandered in, elf had link when started, link dropped, trolls noticed and then cleaned out all agro mobs to save elfie... like vorlin said, its just a small minority.

Mocho you are no one to talk

Hm, typical. Nothing surprises me any more. *Grishelda* is on my trophy, and thats probably because her and her trollie friends have nothing better to kill than lowbie characters. *Comfort to you and Bellows* ..

Sondra, your not a great one to talk, smacking gh orcie when he link screwed then you boasting about it!

I didnt read all comments, but comfort to Elestir and Starobahno. And I am reallly pissed by Daz's comment. To Daz, you would kill anyone linkless you fucker. I spared that idiot when he was linkless without flag, after 5 mins I lost link a and he killed me, and looted. I was full hps with armour and i had flag, but he didnt notice. Btw. Daz is Rza?

was knowingly linkless kill ... delete all and make game rule on linklesskill.

At least it wasnt a bunch of newbies!

lol mochomurka =)

elestir, many have said about you what you say about them now, "ruining the game for others" shrugs.. running around with 5 all the time.. spamming down ppl that could easily be ld.. but the problem is that since it is you we are all suppose to know you are linkless even tho you never set a linkdrop.. i never kill linkless on purpose.. ofcourse i knew the instance i heard you died you were ld.. but everyone cant expect your link to drop all the time. shrugs.. i have died linkless aswell.. and sure i have whined about it.. and to be totally honest i got 2 scrolls of the troll that looted them.. saw no reason why i shouldnt take them if he gives them to me, if i dont take them.. does that give the scrolls back to you?

I dont get it what did i do wrong !!?...Sure i pounded elestir 3 times overall, i have log showing merco and and surm doing most damage .. And sure call me stupid but (noflag).. could mean you were just lagged , couldn't it !! I'd be really surprized if you for one or anyone actually would spare me or anyone else because of laag...laag deaths is what we 'normal' players have to live with what makes the game different for you??? I saw dwarf had flag and targettted elf... i didnt touch the dwarf with flag...i actually DO spare linkless ppl .... but what i understand noflag=not linkless ... why else would there be linkless flags??? And what i dont understand is why u named my legend chars as LD killers what about the trolls and the others spamming around moors... why the fuck did i get to be some rolemodel for linkless killers i did like 60 dam on you if you are to put me in some database for linkless killers i suggest u put all chars in those trolls accounts too....and for mucho i say you did yours for me already since my blindly following your dirs after doing dragon costed me 28 lvls and 2 days 7 hours rl time ...since i am p(gnuttan) too . I dont blame you for that but hearing you talking about sundying trolls and mobdying orcs really made me puke... now now
i at least will take a break from mume ...that should at least make elestir happy, but it will also make me happy since i unlike him it seems have a rich and healthy real life to return too. Ill take this break not because i dont like the game but because im so sick and tired of jerks that seems to think they stand above the 'normal' mume players and that they should for that reason be treated differently.

Isnt there anyone that thinks that this conflict and the current harsh atmosphere is similar to the terrorist attack on USA and the war against Bin Laden?

I heard that bin Laden flooded the .cz links just so they would get linklesskilled.

Dizz i doubt one could be more full of shit.
No linkless flag = not linkless?
... ... ...

Back when I played darkie trolls were the only nice, down to earth players. BN's and Orcs were assholes.

David, keep the scrolls you got, I really don't care anymore, because we have neither moral rules in MUME nor all players are fair enough to return eq. Just be aware of fact that those scrolls are cursed (already 3 linkless deaths for ppl carrying those scrolls). I never set a linkdrop? Well I mostly have it up, first time I died linkless in warrens I proly switched it off while posting a bug report or something and forgot to set it up back, dunno why it didnt work this time (either its bugged or it turned off from some reason, but I am not aware of turning it off). Dizz, there is no need for you to stop playing because of linklesskilling, there is way too many linklesskillers around anyway. I guess linklesskiller is not accurate mark for you, but someone who doesnt care if enemy is linkless if he has no flag fits better. I dont understand the spam about the sunkilling trolls, like it is ever possible to sunkill someone. I say that any troll that sundies deserves it for playing stupid, unless there is some bug that allows to sunkill trolls easily and unless he sundies because of link of course. No reimb for trolls who sundie linkless is another immoral rule we have on MUME.

Sleeping Trolls 1 tick before sun is a great way to sunkill them. No reembursment sucks.

Trolls should be nosleep during the last tick before sunrise. I thought something like that already got imped.

Kriste, je to jenom HRA!! Proc se vztekat kdyz cloveka zabijou linkless.. a o moralce je taky zbytecny mluvit, stejne je to jenom banda debilu, teda az na vyjimky :P

Not that you wasnt lame too with your group, Elestir, but that linklesskill was lamest i seen. I hate to see those linklesskiller trolls among us, therefore they wont be safe anymore.