When you log onto mume you get the following message :
### LAG WARNING ###

The connection to fire.pvv.org is lagging MORE than sporadically at the moment.
Play at your own risk.
I am not taking sides here with your "disagreement" with gods but I do can say that using language like fuck & pussy wont help ...
Comf on the death but you must have known that the link is not stable and lags ...

Guy even doesn't play mortals anymore, and changes like he wants code, ofcourse, you're A, but soon you wount have players anymore in game so. Comf on death but when mortal gets angry on gods, expect punishments...

Comfs Lore... It shouldn't come as a surprise tho that the upper part of Mume is made of the same wood as the lower one, only the idiocy seems to be more concentrated in the management. GREAT GOING, (quote) asshole!

Hehe. I play from USA. The link from here is ALWAYS unstable. And when I asked the reimb question it was rhetorical ... as in ... I'm sure I wont get reimb but how about a lil compassion from the gods. You are right, Dain can be quite the dork at times. Threatening a long-time player with demote over something so trivial is just silly. As i asked, what has mume become?

Whine whine

Mume has become what we players have made it to be ...

mume is lagging dont whine if you die, dain did the right thing here.

i remember when dain demoted my god to level 1 , for eating a few boards, that's gay.

*comf* Lore. Dain is rlly idiot. If someone would act with me this way in RL,
I would for shure despise of him. Only one situation can compare to this and
that is some rlly arogant boss, that need to prove to all ppl around that he is
rlly big and scarry :/. If this is one of the highest gods, then what can I excpect from Ainurs...

Yeah right Bornack, as if a friendly "sorry, no" + noshout/tell wouldn't have been enough.

Actually I'm not all that irritaged with Dain, just the damn link and no explanation as to what is causing it, if/when it will be fixed, etc. As you saw in the log, I laughed when he chopped up my lil hobbit. I was thinking, oh, so THAT'S who is fucking with me! No, I don't think he should have threatened demote but, then again, I don't think he was all that serious about demoting me, or he would have. He was probably just in a bad mood - as was I. *shrug*

Girls...

Well there is like only one arata that dares to make evil things like demoting to lvl for like nothing and its dain, we all know that. so do yourself a favour and dont mess with him. =)

not another log of gods abusing their powers!*glare lazy retarded gods*

Not really Fredde, he just has his own assholish style to it.

Gods are abusing the demote bug!let them get demoted to lvl 1 for abusing it!!!!

Lore: for one, the message says it's the connection to MUME that lags. Nobody on MUME can fix the link to MUME. For another, you asked for reimbursement for lagdeath which they say isn't given no matter what - well, ask a silly question, get a silly answer, maybe? And for the third one, if you swear at Dain can you really blame him for chopping you up - especially since you lose nothing from wizkill? *comf about that mobdeath*, though.

(hupp, accidentally pressed enter there)

Anyway, getting really stupid reimb requests takes about 75% of the total time I spend interacting with mortals. It gets annoying after a while.

As for behaving as a dork now and then, I guess it's the annoyance of having to take all kinds of shit despite doing a lot of work on MUME (and getting nothing in return). Not that I do a lot here anymore, but... at least I have done tons over the years.

Irmgard - I just said I thought it was FUNNY when Dain chopped me up. I had no clue what god had threatened to demote Lore. Hell, it could have been some lowbie god for all I knew. Using the profanity certainly helped to reveal who the god was though huh? I was like ... oh, hi there it's Dain - ok I'm about done whining. It's not a huge deal. Just two people irritated at one another - I got to bitch out an unseen god and that god then revealed himself and took out his anger by 'chopping me up'. No biggie really. Hell, he could have just demoted me but he didn't. You noticed how I shut up pretty fast once I knew it was Dain.

Hoho, missed the hilarious comment above: "you're Arata, but soon you won't have any players left in the game" (translation into English by me).
People have been saying that for the last 10 years. For some reason it hasn't happened yet. I wonder why.

Btw, immos lower level than Valar show up with names when they pray (regardless of being invis or not).

thats cuz you have ALL piez!! and you have limited slaying in to one per month

"You noticed how I shut up pretty fast once I knew it was Dain.", wuss! :)

Wussy wise elf knows when to stop pushing. :)

Dont anger the gods :)

Logs like these make me glad I left this silly text game already. :) Oh, and Dain is nothing more than a thin-necked geek, so he has to show how he is almighty and powerful to others; I happened to see him a few times RL. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. ;)

the fact you read/comment on mume.net, means you are stil addicted! bwaahaha!:/

Blah...I'm a atheist...

I've been playing it for three years, and quitted about 4 months ago. Guess it ain't enough to get rid of addiction completely. At least I was successful in keeping myself from logging on. :P

I fail to see how would reimb hurt any1 here.

imho, then would everybody in future ask reimbs and gods don't want to deal with that spam nor have they time/patience to give reimbs.

this is just like the time i narrated 3 differend norsu jokes and got noshouted for a real month..

A few thoughts for you Lore. Don't pray when you do not have the full use of your faculties. Don't be so stupid as to believe swearing on prays will get you anywhere. If you think you have a point but are not getting anywhere, wait a couple of days as a little time for reflection may allow others to see your point. Lastly, do remember that you get the imps that you pay for...in this case we pay nothing so the service is entirely voluntary, therefore, don't be so self-righteous as you simply cannot carry it off.

Oh, are you by any chance Eale who got noshouted for narrating lines which were so long that they got wrapped and people saw not only 'Eale narrates' but also 'Norsu narrates 'blah''?

Hihi target on quake.

Listen people, get it through your heads. Reimbs aren't given for linkless deaths. You know why? BECAUSE ITS FUCKING HARD TO PROVE. Everybody and their dog would be saying they died linkless. And it isn't hard to fake a log to "prove" you were linkless. Cripes, live with the rule or go fucking crawl under a tree.

Swearing on prays works pretty well Lochdale, I once asked with my immo if any V+ on, noone answered, i asked again, noone answered, then i prayd something like 'are u fucking listening u goddamn motherfucking shittyuseless v+morons' and within 5 secs i was noshouted and morgulvaled :)

fair enough being pissed off because noone cares about all the work u did on mume dain but, its the same thing when u nuke some legend or god to level 1 isnt it? i bet they worked hard too in their own way and took a lot of time, then its all gone in a blink of an eye. this game is a big enough waste of time as it is without people ruining the little fun thats left.

Dear Unknown, I know reimbs aren't given for linkless deaths. Thats why I whine about it. There simply are players who play with honour and never drop link to save their skin and of course there are those kids who do that. Reimb only those with some reputation. And if they will regulary abuse it, it will be clear sooner or later, as many ppl will complain on them, and this privilege can be removed for those (and if proved it could be even solved by demotion, now that would be fair demotion). And if you think it would be too spammy for Ainur to reimb all those ppl with reputation, it could be solved by instavoid for those ppl. I know there would still be few questions on what if char with some reputation indeed loses his link in hopeless situation, etc. But that should not occur as often as to be impossible for some nice Ainu to reproduce the situation, or it could be solved by other means too.

We wouldn't have this game if it wasn't for the gods and gods wouldn't have this game if it weren't for the players, so we might as well drop this shit. It's just that some ppl think it is ok for them to act as pricks with no regard to the effort others have put into the game. Who cares that there is nothing we can do about it, I think being a pathetic fuck is a hard burden to carry around anyway, and a "punishment" in itself.

(Of course I don't think that there should have been a reimbursement in this situation).

Elestir: It is not as simple as that. While I agree with your sentiments it would simply be unworkable as deciding legitimate v illegitimate linkless deaths is a subjective rather then an objective exercise. Anything that is subjective is always open to abuse.

jesus man, do you understand what you are trying to say? don't get so high 8)

English is obviously not your first language which is ok (unless it is your primary language, then your just a fool). Use your name and it might warrant a real discussion.

forgot to add name to last post...now, why on earth are you talking always like this? why to make simple things so damn hard?:P because of profession irl?

Comparing the difference between something that is subjective or objective is a difficult concept to grasp Ellacar? Perhaps I write (speak) this way because I have faith in my audience that they understand my vocabluary and will at least understand my point. If my use of vocabluary confuses you then you probably would have missed the point of the comment anyways so there is no use in worrying about it.

dear Lochdale, doesn't matter if i get point or not, but what audience you have here? Unknowns and flamemasters (wannabe's of fredde). *ponder*

Lochdale is completely correct. And what the hell? If you can't figure out the meaning of subjective and objective, go back to kindergarden. And Elestir, do you really expect the management to go through every player and decide (based on what criteria exactly?) who is or isn't a honorable player? Hell, if I was a A, I wouldn't let you on the list of "reimbable" players. The management can hardly agree on simple rules and changes, now you expect them to make arbitrary decisions about players. If you think people whine now, just wait until that gets imped. Hah!

Hmm well i remember when i was Perrin (the first version). Some guy remade after he got deleted. Anyway i was level 17. I lost link. I came back dead, losing a kinda crappy metal set (it was the best eq i had ever had at the time.) Someone told me to talk to gods. I did. Got no re-imb. But, Lerrin (no relation to Perrin; forgot his god's name) apparently felt bad for me and logged on and took me around mobbing with him and I had even better eq than I had in the first place.

Just saying that his attitude here is one of the things that makes this game fun. I know technically it may be poor char seperation for him to log his mortal, but losing link is not exactly RPing anyhow, it is a game glitch.

Lore, as I remember him has helped me in the past. I am sure he has helped others. Well think whatever you want of that.

Personally, Dain- if you dont want to mess with the stupidity of dealing with ppl, why be a god, shutup, and get out of it. Thats what newbies and whinners do, is go to the gods.. Your job, to make them happy. I think you should have gotten your eq back. Its stupid that you died idiotically like that. Maybe if gods had any sense they would start asking about getting servers fixed, instead of getting their humor from watching everyone die uselessly, ya, bc they have nothing better to do. If your going to be a god, you should have to go by some rule that you have to have respect as your top priority. No respect= stupid ppl and stupid gods.

Lochdale is gay, dain is gay, everybody on this site except me is gay!!!

Totally agree with Rza. And I'm also angry on Gods cuz they changed behaviour
of thieves at black dagger guild, but none announced it. So I lost lvl with my
lowbie ther, just cause stupid change. But yeah who cares, Ainurs sure not :/.
and *gig* @Malric :)