right or wrong? you decide
posted by Dragóth
2002-02-12 12:35:56
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* R W C Mana:Cold>e
High Moors
*a Man* is standing here.
*a Man* is here, riding a pack horse.
A sturdy pack horse is standing here.
Exits: north, east, south, west.

* R W C Mana:Cold>k *man*
bash;stand
You pound *a Man*'s left leg extremely hard.
*a Man* smites your left hand very hard and tickles it.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Cold *a Man*:Fine>*a Man* panics, and attempts to flee.
Your victim has disappeared!
*a Man* LEAVES S O U T H.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Cold>
You are already standing.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Cold>k *man*
You approach *a Man*, trying to pound him.
*a Man* barely pierces your left foot and tickles it.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Cold *a Man*:Healthy>bash;stand
*a Man* panics, and attempts to flee.
Your victim has disappeared!
*a Man* LEAVES N O R T H riding a pack horse.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Cold>
You are already standing.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Cold>k *man*
They aren't here.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Cold>n

*a Man* has arrived from the north riding a pack horse.



**blabla he flees, we track other man up, the man who fled without mount.**



**Near LB**


* R W C Mana:Hot Move:Tired>w
Old East Road
*a Man* is standing here LINK SUCK.      ****Duh****
Exits: =east=, south, =west=.

* R W C Mana:Hot Move:Tired>k *man*
You pound *a Man*'s right foot extremely hard.
*a Man* smites your head extremely hard.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired *a Man*:Fine>
*a Man* panics, and attempts to flee.
*a Man* LEAVES E A S T.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>bash;stand
Bash what or whom?

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>
You are already standing.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>e
k *man*
Old East Road
*a Man* is standing here.
Exits: north, =east=, south, =west=.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>
You approach *a Man*, trying to pound him.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired *a Man*:Fine>
*a Man* panics, and attempts to flee.
*a Man* LEAVES E A S T.
* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>e
k *man*
Old East Road
*a Man* is standing here.
Exits: north, =east=, south, =west=.
Maartje begins some strange incantations...

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>
You pound *a Man*'s left leg extremely hard.
Your victim is shocked by your hit!

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired *a Man*:Fine>
Deathcrush joins your fight.
Deathcrush crushes *a Man*'s body extremely hard.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired *a Man*:Fine>
*a Man* panics, and attempts to flee.
*a Man* LEAVES E A S T.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>e
Old East Road
*a Man* is standing here.
Exits: north, =east=, south, =west=.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>gig man
You giggle at his silly antics.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>
Maartje begins some strange incantations...
* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>exa man
the "defence warrior"*a Man* has several bruises.
*a Man* seems to have:
       A light wound at the left leg.
*a Man* is using: 
<wielded two-handed> a halberd (brand new)
<worn on forearm>    a metal buckler (brand new)
<worn on head>       a spiked metal helmet (brand new)
<worn on body>       a blood-encrusted breastplate (brand new)
<worn about body>    a forest green cloak (brand new)
<worn on arms>       a pair of vambraces (brand new)
<worn on hands>      a pair of metal gauntlets (brand new)
<worn on legs>       a pair of greaves (brand new)
<worn on feet>       a pair of smooth, black boots
<worn around neck>   a spiked collar (brand new)
<worn on finger>     a ring
<worn on finger>     a ring of silver
<worn on back>       a leather backpack
<worn across back>   a leather backpack
<worn as belt>       a plain silken sash
<worn on belt>       a sable pouch
<worn on belt>       a water skin
<worn on belt>       a butcher knife (brand new)
<worn on belt>       a hooded brass lantern; it is lit
<worn on belt>       a set of lock picks

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>
Maartje utters the words 'diesilla barh'
*a Man* staggers back as the lightning bolt sent by Maartje hits him.
*a Man* smites Maartje's right leg extremely hard and shatters it.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>k *man*

*a Man* panics, and attempts to flee.
*a Man* LEAVES W E S T.


****i tell my group not to hit****


* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>exa man

Deathcrush nods solemnly.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>the "defence warrior"*a Man* has some big nasty scratches.
*a Man* seems to have:
       A light wound at the left leg.
*a Man* is using: 
<wielded two-handed> a halberd (brand new)
<worn on forearm>    a metal buckler (brand new)
<worn on head>       a spiked metal helmet (brand new)
<worn on body>       a blood-encrusted breastplate (brand new)
<worn about body>    a forest green cloak (brand new)
<worn on arms>       a pair of vambraces (brand new)
<worn on hands>      a pair of metal gauntlets (brand new)
<worn on legs>       a pair of greaves (brand new)
<worn on feet>       a pair of smooth, black boots
<worn around neck>   a spiked collar (brand new)
<worn on finger>     a ring
<worn on finger>     a ring of silver
<worn on back>       a leather backpack
<worn across back>   a leather backpack
<worn as belt>       a plain silken sash
<worn on belt>       a sable pouch
<worn on belt>       a water skin
<worn on belt>       a butcher knife (brand new)
<worn on belt>       a hooded brass lantern; it is lit
<worn on belt>       a set of lock picks

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot Move:Tired>con man
You could do it with a needle!
* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot>say hm
emote says 'hm'
Ok.


***so we talk some about what to do***
***and we did some mobs e of him***


* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot a black bear:Dying>
Maartje slashes a black bear's left hindfoot extremely hard and shatters it.
You receive your share of experience.
It begins to be automatic...
Your blood freezes as you hear a black bear's death cry.
A black bear is dead! R.I.P.
w
* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot>Edge of the Forest
*a Man* is standing here.
Exits: north, east, south, west.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot>gig
You giggle.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Hot>w
Mossy Slope
Exits: north, east, south, west.

* R W C Mana:Hot>
Deathcrush eats a large piece of smoked meat.

* R W C Mana:Hot>
Deathcrush begins some strange incantations...

* R W C Mana:Hot>
*a Man* has arrived from the east.

* R W C Mana:Hot>
Deathcrush utters the words 'cure light'

* R W C Mana:Hot>
*a Man* LEAVES W E S T.

* R W C Mana:Hot>nar *a Man* is standing here LINK SUCK.
Ok.

* R W C Mana:Hot>w
k *man*
Rocky Plains
Exits: north, east, south, west.

***i track him up some rooms***

* R W C Mana:Hot>w
Pine Forest
*a Man* is standing here (linkless).
Exits: north, east, south, west.
Aha, you have found your victim!


* R W C Mana:Hot>say fucknig

Deathcrush bleeds from open wounds.

* R W C Mana:Hot>*a Man* has reconnected.
emote says 'fucknig'
Ok.
* R W C Mana:Hot>
*a Man* LEAVES N O R T H.

***we find him swept***


* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>n
Old East Road
*a Man* is standing here.
Exits: north, east, =south=, =west=.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>w
Old East Road
Exits: =east=, =west=.
*a Man* has arrived from the east.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>k *man*
Deathcrush tries to crush *a Man*, but he parries successfully.
You pound *a Man*'s right hand extremely hard and shatter it.
Your victim is shocked by your hit!
*a Man* smites Deathcrush's left foot extremely hard.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *a Man*:Bad Deathcrush:Hurt>
*a Man* panics, and attempts to flee.
*a Man* LEAVES W E S T.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>w
k *man*
Old East Road
Exits: =east=, =west=.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>They aren't here.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>w
Old East Road
Exits: =east=, =west=.
* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>w
Old East Road
Exits: =east=, =west=.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>w
w
Old East Road
A strip of leather with a buckle is lying here.
A soft pouch, made from leather, has been left here.
A black snake, with red markings, is lying here.
Exits: =east=, =west=.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>k *man*
Old East Road
A rabbit is here eyeing your presence warily.
*a Man* is standing here.
Exits: =north=, =east=, south.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>
You approach *a Man*, trying to pound him.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *a Man*:Bad>
*a Man* panics, and attempts to flee.
*a Man* LEAVES E A S T.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>
*a Man* has arrived from the east.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>
Maartje begins some strange incantations...

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning>k *man*
You pound *a Man*'s body extremely hard and shatter it.
Your victim is shocked by your hit!

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *a Man*:Awful>
*a Man* panics, but can't stop fighting to flee.

* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *a Man*:Awful>
Deathcrush crushes *a Man*'s right foot extremely hard and shatters it.
*a Man* is mortally wounded and will die soon if not aided.
* R W C HP:Fine Mana:Burning *a Man*:Dying>
You pound *a Man*'s body extremely hard and shatter it.
You feel more experienced.
Congratulations! This is the first time you've killed it!
Your blood freezes as you hear *a Man*'s death cry.
*a Man* has drawn his last breath! R.I.P.


*****SO, right or wrong? we didnt do him while linkdead, i said we should wait and let him run some and see if link was stable after a while, it seemed to us so we killed, you decide*****
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Right!2002-02-12 14:18:18
This is just why I hate log comments. Why should you want others to decide if you did right or wrong? Do something and stand for it. In this case, you killed an enemy, and that is as it should be, so there is nothing wrong here.
Or maybe you wanted to know about the link, well its not YOUR fault someone ELSE has a bad link. :)
Téar2002-02-12 14:46:49
just...
Ainagul2002-02-12 14:48:09
Might as well kill him linkdead - no difference, he was helpless.
Pirdosos2002-02-12 15:08:07
Bad link-dont play mume.
If you play-be redy do die.
Fredde2002-02-12 15:12:46
well if he continues to play when link sucks its his fault.
Nightwolf2002-02-12 15:29:17
Linkdead kills rules! go on :)
Rogon2002-02-12 15:57:36
How can he not continue to play until he gets to a town where he can rent? If you know someone has totally shitty link, you killed him linkless. Who cares if he had flag or not, if you KNEW he had no link to do anything.
turbo2002-02-12 16:26:11
If i guy plays with bad link and gets the rip. He have only himself to blame
Ugash2002-02-12 16:42:42
He looked afk 1st to me, that's how Humala etc think linkless should have been treated. I prolly would have left right after i noticed he was linkdead.
Urian2002-02-12 17:09:09
Playing from a extremely sucky link I can understand the *man* but shit happens, you see an enemy, you kill (if he's not linkless) if sucky link would be a criteria of killing we couldn't kill half the players we do :-) I mean how can you tell if someone really has a sucky link or does he just act as he has ? when my link is extremely slow I stay safe or dont play ... simple as that
GORETONGUE2002-02-12 17:27:49
Dragoth, you are supreme pk'er and a good guy. I suspect you felt bad about the kill (maybe a little) and post it here to be told - no flag==no guilt. But, you know that if he started having link problems, at LB, it would be nice to get back to a town to rent....oh well. To the first commenter, "Right!" I find your comment ridiculous. You say "Do something and stand for it." yet you don't even sign a name on your post. You're being hypocritical.
Rogon2002-02-12 17:59:42
Saying "if you play with bad link, blame yourself" is kind of silly. If i have a fine link, go to noc, and link suddenly goes crap, its not like i willingly goes to a pk area with a shit link, then its just a question of getting away from there, without dying!
Ajax2002-02-12 18:04:55
Seeing as how you don't get to choose when your link turns bad, saying you shouldn't play whenlink is bad is retarded. For example, I could be in brush doing exp or whatever with a perfect link for many hours, then suddenly my link goes haywire. I can't just rent from brush now can I, even if I really really want to. Killing a guy who has obvious link problems is just as bad as killing him linkless. Then again, all these so called hardasses saying *man* derseved to die are the first to post their 'wah I died linkless logs'.
Realistico2002-02-12 18:25:21
It just ain't no big deal. Bad links get people killed all the time. Linkless, lagged, sluggish, rusty modems ....... whatever. Forget about it and move on with your life.
Larkspur2002-02-12 18:47:14
Well, frankly, I agree with Rogon, Ajax, and Goretongue. There does enter this
*ethic* matter into discussion when situations like this occur. Problem is, not everyone has great ethics. Dragoth *has* a fair amount of ethics. He seems even more respectable for bringing this situation online for us to discuss it.
UHU2002-02-12 18:55:30
Turbo must be the dumbest fuck if he says that its your own fault if you play with bad link. Read rogons comment.
Jessie2002-02-12 19:39:44
state your name son and maybe we will consider your comment.
Ujo2002-02-12 20:08:18
People take dying way too seriously. It's only game afterall.
Grunsk2002-02-12 21:19:53
That looked like he was trying to avoid you with all the acting LINK BAD hard to tell tho dont think anyone can blame you for that.
Aschit2002-02-12 23:14:20
I have to agree with Rogon here. Wow, I have been without MUME for FAR too long now I guess :(
Dan2002-02-13 00:14:29
I really respect Rogon in the not killing linkdead thing. One time i met him as my mage when i was going from rdell to bree and it took i swear to god 10 minutes to get to lb losing link every 15 seconds where i met Norsu and his gang. They hit me and somehow i managed to flee a room or two and yell linkdead and he yelled really and a bit later i yelled nod and he left me alone.
Feagil2002-02-13 01:35:27
Not every day i agree with Rogon... But he's right about the fact that you can't really pick the time when your link gets fucked. On the other hand the guy would have died quite likely even with link, so is it right to let someone go just BECAUSE he has bad link? I this case i think you should have spared the guy if you wanna keep your flawless record, but can't really call you a linklesskiller for this either.
Ethar2002-02-13 05:40:47
nod rogon. nod ajax. what the hell are people like turbo thinking. ah yes people spoiled with swedelinks i guess.
Ethar2002-02-13 05:42:41
and perhaps gortongue if you thought before you opened your mouth (which happened to spew forth alot of garbage) consider this. perhaps "right!" (no he's not me) was trying to make a point here. make your own decisions and not what some what you deem as "great player" says is ok. maybe he wanted someoen to agree with him for what he said alone and not who he plays? i dont know think outside the box. or just think.
Ethar2002-02-13 05:44:00
and maybe he said that because he doesnt want to get killed ld because of a comment here! (which in that case i say growup and take the heat for your comment :P). anyway its hard to judge someones motive... just be aware of it. last time i comment :P
Evan2002-02-13 08:17:29
Its looks very much like linkless killing to me... u get him bad/low while he has no link, this with (flag), and then u whack him when he reconnects.
faint2002-02-13 08:52:04
as every1 else here i agree with rogon and ajax mostly tho. But to answer feagils comment, you can think like that, yes he prob woulda died but we dont even know who the player of this man is. I mean, we dont even know if he had draughts/scrolls. i guess that is what you mean when you say prob woulda died anyway....
Pirdosos2002-02-13 10:42:04
Beeg nod Turbo!
Gwendolyn2002-02-13 11:34:50
Link is overrated
Maartje2002-02-13 12:01:05
*man* was Plum. and later i heard from friend on whitie side that he only narrated about 3 orcs (! it was 2 orcs + bn (me, sniff)) lb etc and not once about his link or being killed linkless. because he felt about it that way that took away my last doubts.
Irmhild2002-02-14 08:42:39
Or maybe the guy was just gracious enough not to whine about it. What a notion.
goretongue2002-02-14 17:51:01
uh. thanks ethar for flaming me for saying something which you agree with. what are you mentally handicapped?
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