Why would you hide the key in the first place you prick(s)?

You posted this log, to show how assholic you and Khird are? Very smart. Your furry little ass dies -on sight-.

Nod dont fuck with Nari. Was REALLY FUCKING RETARDED of Khird and co to do this. Maybe its like a jealousy thing, they can't get group and have no social skills to group with people for rog, so they try to prevent others from doing it. *shrug*

Well, we found the key about 10 to 20 minutes after they left. I was actually waiting for Khird to come jump us as Eggraz, with Shimmer, and break char seperation rules. Seeing as how they knew we were down there as pukes, and would have used that knowledge to attack us. (imho that's breaking char seperation when I stood in one place for 12 ticks after hearing they on)

Hey, that's life. The majority of my characters are retired now, I've had it. You win.

funniest part of the log is 'Almarian tells you 'Is Lief somewhere beating you up in a alley for the MIGHTY BALROG KEYS''. This slut knows 4 commands... follow, cast 'portal', cast 'block door', and assist.

You forgot, "french Simba" :p

every story certainly has two sides, but Juan you are just a sorry moron for a) doing that and b) posting that!

hmmmmmm, pukes are interesting...

Lief says, 'I know entire Arda'.
Yes? No.

lol

Erh ... you gotta be kidding ... it's kindergarten time all over again ... some players really, REALLY need to grow up ...

demote all gods to prevent future cheating.

Alkar, please don't let this sway you from coding! Mume is rocking lately with all the new changes..And I hate to think some moron would get you down. WE LOVE YOU ALKAR! :(

Where was the cheating in this? Me asking an ainur to see if key bugged ain't cheating. An ainur answering "No, the key is in Moria" = Not cheating. Just a slip of his/her tongue.
And I claim to be able to lead anywhere on arda, yes. Of course none of you'll ever know the truth, since half of you (if not all of you) don't like/trust me.
And I do agree with Almarian, I shoulda taken him into a back alley to bully him some, but what do I need to do that for when she does it already? =) (poor child of hers) *waits to get the tells saying "I don't talk about you blahblah"*

no, burritos does not work. tried it already. and lief, immorts giving in-game info to mortals is not cheating? nice attempt to rationalize it...

Hiding keys to not let others players doing smobs is _stupid_. It's ok if you have to leave Moria for some and want to prevent keys from decaying, but doing it like this and lying to others is dumb and moronic.

i agree ostu...but what bothers me more is that immortal chars are blabbing. dmote demote demote em all !!

Wow. You have completely changed Kim. How disapointing. *sigh*

The few times I've talked to khird he seemed as a nice chap, but after seeing thsi many logs of him beeing an ass I guess I have to believe it.

Well first we wanted to do Balrog at 21.00 so that da Amercians cant cause these fucks have done it every night for the last week and we always have had to wait or skip due to this. But we didnt do anyway, though I see Khirds group did almost what we were planning to....

Hehe "Well first we wanted to do Balrog at 21.00 so that da Amercians cant cause these fucks have done it every night for the last week.." yea it's their turn now, Cz, Sweden and Estonia spamdid it for a while, it's their turn now!!! :-) And: Khird tells you 'you really suck and lowyn is a really dirty slut' You're disappointing me (not that you care but..) wtf you would never say these kind of things before :-( What happened? *Comf* Alkar so true, he spent so many h designing this game for us guys to play, and ppl still being dickheads to eachother without a valid reason. But the poster of this log, Juan, gets the prize for being a total moron - why the FUCK do something moronic like this and then POST it? :) *DUUUUH*

Hehe, actually, Fero learned to lead it, so he's been doin' it the nights we haven't. *shrug* Btw, no ainur ever said anything to me other than they can't decay key cause it still in Moria. I can name names of people who've done it. I think the one that'd suprise you folks the most is Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs. Not this time, but back when I was trying for morgul 24-7 as Shriek. And had it a few times too (which I got flamed for).

I like Ling's comment though. It's our turn! So what if I got some 60 Roggies on trophy! Americans can get shining, so you guys can kill 'em as darkie and get shining. Saves you time! (Aka, you should be thanking me, esp' Elajt and co for bringing Bren on Roggie trips)

Information from gods in situations like this is REALLY wrong imo, if someone wants to hide a key in moria (which I have been told some gods would like to be illegal, but is currently legal) and it is legal they have that option to do so. Another player being informed by a god who may be a friend of anything to do with that key should be complete demotion of that god. This is about the 4th time i've seen something like this happen and it is very frustrating to the game environment imo.

Information from gods in situations like this is REALLY wrong imo, if someone wants to hide a key in moria (which I have been told some gods would like to be illegal, but is currently legal) and it is legal they have that option to do so. Another player being informed by a god who may be a friend of anything to do with that key should be complete demotion of that god. This is about the 4th time i've seen something like this happen and it is very frustrating to the game environment imo.

Well, now as Ling said it all she saved me some time commenting. I just have to agree with her on all accounts. Khird, there gotta be better ways of solving personal conflicts with players than this.

haha!! wonder what's the point of posting a log which tells how idiotic you are? :)

I consider information from gods is _required_ in this case. You see, Balrog is a quest that requires cooperation of at least 10 players. And if they gather only to see that some asshole hid keys because he dislikes one of them... some V+ should consider resetting zone then. Of course it doesn't apply when other side player is in Moria with keys, but if it is a same side case, it should be possible to obtain these keys or at least information of thier location...

LOL this is really really sad and just recently i even defended Khird i guess i was wrong about him this was really low and sad to see people acting like this and don't worry Lief plenty of people like/trust ya =p

to claim information from gods aint cheating is bull. and this mexican/spanish or whatever hobbits are kinda funny sometimes. and i really dont get the point of this log.

Es malo! Que lastima! (Don't get the point either Freddy Flintstone.)

Next time, my snaga, next time! Btw, Lief, i told ya he gacvd it to black uruks. *sniff*

Next time, my snaga, next time! Btw, Lief, i told ya he gaved it to black uruks. *sniff*

Thank you Lief for the shining and defiled from Bren!

God what an idiot log this is. I don't play pukes becaus of this shit.

Isen't giving eq to mobs illegal?

He gave it to lurg leader, Zmej, not black uruks. Apparently you were sleeping when we found it, since you claimed to have fallen asleep like 6 times in there. =p *comf*

imho lief, the gods should have been more careful when giving out such information. even though rog is the greatest mob in the game he is still just mob and all mobs imho should apply to the same rules and not get more attention than others. If you foun Juan or Khird untrustworthy, then why give them the keys? and if you didn't find out till later then too bad, they had the keys and they can do whatever they please with them imho. You cannot pull a lame-ass trick (so you say) by calling on the gods to help you.

What this game needs is a ring of conflict. And wand of death of course.

I'll be glad to say I informed the dwarves led by Lief when I Saw this happening. Not only did they drag me and my brother Tur around slandering our name by calling us newbies but then they had the audocity to take the keys, snicker, and blatantly state they they're stealing the keys to piss of the dwarf group. And, to top it all off, which I told myself I would table, they continued to banter and rave OUT OF CONTEXT and Khird's girlfriend rl spammed me with "I love you" words to piss off Khird and get a one-up on him. She continued to do it almost to the point of obsurdity. So, they were using me at their expense and then they spammed "sorry" at me for the next 10 minutes. I told myself I would just drop it, but when players like this not only perform these acts BUT ALSO post it on MUME.NET thinking they have the general mume public to back them up is absolutely histerical. They're literally a bunch of teenagers in rl so I usually just drop it and tell myself that they're just young and jealously rises string at that age. But, this is completely and utterly freakin' rediculous. Alkar, do not let a bunch of teenage pimple headed no-brainers turn you from the great work you have done here. I salute you as a player and a coder. Good job and screw them.

It doesn't matter if the gods told them directly or indirectly, if one of them are friends with the gods there are ways to inform them out of the game like IM to tell them whats going on

I just learned Juan is supposed to be p(Dan). That would explain why Juan is Khird's lapdog, no?

Alkar, You rule, don't let morons like Khird and Juanina or whoever it is to bugger you off!

Who is this Roli bitch? Never heard of him before.

Roli is a proud Dwarf of Durin's Army. I have seem the lad fight and he's viscous with his huge arking sword. Don't immediately slander his name or I'll perosnally put a foot up yer arse dear Armodo.

So if Armodo has never heard of someone, they are automatically a newbie and a 'bitch'? Nice logic.

This is to Jessie. Jessie, there are 4 keys needed for Balrog. Jewel-encrusted key loads in chest at Grey Spider where Bulag loot is. There is only ONE of these in the game. If they killed Bulag before we did, then they'd have the key, and not us. I can understand if someone hides Balrog keys because they wanna leave Moria to get a group and do it later, but to hide it just to piss someone off is utterly retarded.

Who is this Armodo bitch? Never heard of him before.

I AM NOT p(juan) i just havent been playing a lot lately because of grades and such... be back soon

I agree with Steele and Roli on this. Roli is a battle worn warrior and to dishonor him is to dishonor is dwarven breathern. I agree that immortals shouldnt share info, but if they are telling if a key is IN moria or just has not popped yet is different than giving info about crossrace or stuff like that. For people to hide keys just to piss people off and then post a log about is just plain stupid. If your hiding it because you plane on coming back later and get them to finish it, fine. Do that then. Khird rented about 15 mins after this and played orc after that, so I'm guessing that he wasnt planning on coming back. I tried talking Alkar out of retiring most of his chars, but he still did it. It's people like Khird and Juan who ruin MUME for people like Alkar who put in countless hours of making it worth playing for all of us.

LAUGH ARMODO you fakking twat Roli has more legends then you have years played on mume :p

Good grief, what kind of a person must one be: first to lie for no reason, like this, second to post a log to show his true nature ?

It's official. This log just used up mume.net lameness quota for a month.

My dear friends, Steele, Zartran, Alkar, Roli, Uber, and all the other relatives
and friends of Brother Rabbit, I love you all. Without you, I would never have
my MUME addiction, for everytime I see a log like this, or meet another ubergroup
of uberobnoxious uberkids in Rivendell for which I am uberunqualified
(being a total newbie and such), I just want to dig up a little hole and
retire in it forever. I have this dream, where I log onto MUME and everyone
is being gracious to everyone else, and then I wake up and go searching for a spoon.

This game rocks! When you venture alone... alone alone alone alone.

like i said before Roli, its too bad that they had the key and even if there is only one in the game there is no excuse for cheating, its just mob and this is just a game with rules(one where many people spend most of their hours of their day on). and to Twinkle: there will never be such a day because people are people.

Well it was stupid to hide keys and preventing other people from doing smobs, but I think it is cheating when a god is giving out information when I believe I've been told not to get involved with mortals like that. And is it just me or did juan forget to take off password?

People are People, so why should it be
You and I get along so awfully
.....
So were different color's and were different breeds
Different people have different needs
....
OH OH OH...da duh dunt dunt dunt OH OH OH

ahh youth today....or should I say ahhh the idiots today....

ahh youth today....or should I say ahhh the idiots today....

ahh youth today....or should I say ahhh the idiots today....

The greatest smob in the game is VAIRR!!!!!
totally rucking muddle on that mob!

if he is p dan i take back everything ive said about the mexican spanish hobbits beeing fun! then they are morons and morons shall they be forever! BWAIOAHAHHA

He is p(Dan). =) A trust friend (not an ainur) told me.

And the other two Spanish Hobbits would be his rl friends then, Kegolas, and Maverick.

You stupid Ref go back to cuba! or ah, jump the river back to Mexico!

I find juan's work done well:) when a smob that's too easy loads way too much good eq for newbies,why not do something else to prevent all the eq! *clap juan*
or make balrog more smart!

Must be easy to call us newbies, when you spamdie as all your chars.

rl friend needs his head checked then lief cause i am not dan and there is no one by that name here for maverick. and there are like 4 other hobbits too. they are my friends yes.

Next time I do a Balrog group with pBifur, pAjax, pSteele and others, I will have to remind them all that they're newbies, and should be denied eq. Oh, but I'm a newbie too, and so is Lief, so what do I know?

yes? i play to have fun,and i don't have my own connection atm,so ofcos i don't bother to go all the way to the inn! instead of u doing the same over and over,and still finding it fun *shrug* and did i call you a newbie? i can't see it anyways.

"when a smob that's too easy loads way too much good eq for newbies" Nah, you didn't call anyone a newbie, did you?

i don't see where i say that...? i've killed fullshining on bren i think,and shining more than once. and that's not a kewl way to get shining,hunt down a regular newbie etc. shrugs

AND I DONT SEE MYSELF COMMENTING ON EVERY1 WHO DOES BALROG DO YOU? fucking try to take 2 secs to see if that must be what i mean before u come with bullshit comments. i say newbies DO balrog,not that every1 that joins a balrog group is a newbie.

Keep doing the mob for the 'so valuable' eq guys,instead of ever risking anything at all,but guess that's where u find the fun,

you guys need to seriously lighten up.

Too late to post support for Alkar,since this thread has already degenerated into flame wars.