Why did chudwicki need revenge?
posted by Rogon
2002-07-04 04:07:52
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This log happened a couple of weeks BEFORE the log posted by balthazar below. And might
shed some light over why balthazar deserves anything he gets.

As you can see, balthazar fights his OWN battles.


* W S HP:Fine>
Balthazar backfires 'i am not your healer or your bobber just REST'

* W S HP:Fine>
Dåburå closes the rock.
Door set to: rock

* W S HP:Fine>
A swallow panics, and attempts to flee.
Dåburå smites a swallow's tail extremely hard and shatters it.
A swallow is mortally wounded and will die soon if not aided.

* W S HP:Fine>
Balthazar joins Dåburå's fight.
Balthazar slashes a swallow's body extremely hard and shatters it.
You receive your share of experience.
Yes! 
You're beginning to get the idea.
A swallow is dead! R.I.P.
get coins corpse

* W S HP:Fine>
You can't find a coins in the corpse.

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza smiles viciously.

* W S HP:Fine>sa just asking :)
emote darkens: just asking :)
Ok.

* W S HP:Fine>
Balthazar begins some strange incantations...

* W S HP:Fine>u
Alas, you cannot go that way...

* W S HP:Fine>open rock
Ok.

* W S HP:Fine>
Balthazar utters the word 'grzzs'

* W S HP:Fine>scout n
You quietly scout northwards...

Large Cave in a Hillside
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.

You stop scouting.

* W S HP:Fine>close rock
Ok.

* W S HP:Fine>
Balthazar backfires 'all you do is spam me for bobs and heals'

* W S HP:Fine>
Balthazar backfires 'i dont even fucking know you'

* W S HP:Fine>
Dåburå gets a strip of dried meat from a leather backpack.

* W S HP:Fine>
Dåburå gets a strip of dried meat from a leather backpack.

* W S HP:Fine>
Dåburå eats a strip of dried meat.

* W S HP:Fine>
Dåburå eats a strip of dried meat.

* W S HP:Fine>
Dåburå throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!

* W S HP:Fine>
Balthazar opens the rock.
Door set to: rock

* W S HP:Fine>
Balthazar leaves north.

* W S HP:Fine>
Saving Chudwicki.

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza stops resting, and clambers on his feet.

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza begins some strange incantations...

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza utters the words 'judicandus gzfuajg'

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza sits down and rests.

* W S HP:Fine>t balthazar you have to know someone to extend basic courtesy?  wanker, know you know me
Ok.

* W S HP:Fine>
A demon wolf leaves north.
A demon wolf leaves north.

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza stops using a warm blanket.

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza wears a mottled cloak about his body.

* W S HP:Fine>sc
244/306 hits, 38/38 mana, and 143/143 moves.

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza stops resting, and clambers on his feet.

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza leaves north.

o W S HP:Fine>n
where
Large Cave in a Hillside
A cloak mottled in green and brown, and stinking to high heaven lies here.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
Balthazar the Black Númenórean is standing here.
A sturdy trained horse is standing here.
Dåburå is standing here.
A hungry warg stands here, sniffing around for flesh.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
Rza the Black Númenórean is standing here (shrouded).
Exits: north, (south).

* W S HP:Fine>Players in your zone
--------------------
Dåburå               - Large Cave in a Hillside
Rza                  - Large Cave in a Hillside
Balthazar            - Large Cave in a Hillside
Chudwicki            - Large Cave in a Hillside

* W S HP:Fine>tim
According to the Dúnadan calendar, it is:
9pm on Highday, the 11th of Halimath, Year 2944 of the Third Age.
The present Tan Istar, Lord of the Istari Council is Janosik.
Real time is Thu May 23 04:23:32 2002 GMT.
Last reboot due to manual reboot at Mon May 20 19:18:33 2002 GMT.

* W S HP:Fine>e
Alas, you cannot go that way...

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza gets a mottled cloak.

* W S HP:Fine>exit
North - Deep in the Mist
South - Backcave

* W S HP:Fine>s
Backcave
The corpse of a swallow is lying here.
Exits: (north).

o W S HP:Fine>n
Large Cave in a Hillside
A cloak mottled in green and brown, and stinking to high heaven lies here.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
Balthazar the Black Númenórean is standing here.
A sturdy trained horse is standing here.
Dåburå is standing here.
A hungry warg stands here, sniffing around for flesh.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
Rza the Black Númenórean is standing here (shrouded).
Exits: north, (south).

* W S HP:Fine>
Rut narrates 'mornin'

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza drops a warm blanket.

* W S HP:Fine>get cloak
You get a mottled cloak.

* W S HP:Fine>wear cloak
A mottled cloak seems to be the wrong size for you.

* W S HP:Fine>drop cloak
You drop the cloak.

* W S HP:Fine>
A demon wolf leaves south.
A demon wolf leaves south.

* W S HP:Fine>
Balthazar leaves south.

* W S HP:Fine>
Rza leaves south.

o W S HP:Fine>res
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

o W S HP:Fine>get vial 2.pouch
put vial kit
get tail 2.pouch
put tail kit
get fur 2.pouch
put fur kit
get leaves 2.pouch
put leaves kit
mix kit
You get a vial of preserved blood from a sable pouch.

o W S HP:Fine>
You put a vial of preserved blood in a fragrant-smelling bag.

o W S HP:Fine>
You get a short, moist tail from a sable pouch.

o W S HP:Fine>
You put a short, moist tail in a fragrant-smelling bag.

o W S HP:Fine>
You get some short, black fur from a sable pouch.

o W S HP:Fine>
You put some short, black fur in a fragrant-smelling bag.

o W S HP:Fine>
You get a handful of narrow leaves from a sable pouch.

o W S HP:Fine>
You put a handful of narrow leaves in a fragrant-smelling bag.

o W S HP:Fine>
You start mixing the contents of a fragrant-smelling bag.

put draught pouch
You have finished mixing the contents of a fragrant-smelling bag.
Looking inside, you see some unknown mishmash, and dejectedly pour it out.

o W S HP:Fine>
You don't have a draught.

o W S HP:Fine>loo in 2.pouch
pouch (used) : 
ten handfuls of narrow leaves
five piles of short, black fur
five short, moist tails
ten vials of preserved blood

o W S HP:Fine>sc
268/306 hits, 38/38 mana, and 143/143 moves.

o W S HP:Fine>whe
Players in your zone
--------------------
Dåburå               - Backcave
Rza                  - Backcave
Balthazar            - Backcave
Chudwicki            - Large Cave in a Hillside

o W S HP:Fine>st
You stop resting, and stand up.

o W S HP:Fine>s
Backcave
The corpse of a swallow is lying here.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
A demon wolf lurks here, its dark form twisting and hiding its shape.
Balthazar the Black Númenórean is standing here.
A sturdy trained horse is standing here.
Dåburå is standing here.
A hungry warg stands here, sniffing around for flesh.
Rza the Black Númenórean is resting here (shrouded).
Exits: (north).
A demon wolf passes dangerously close to your hiding place.

* W S HP:Fine>res
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

* W S HP:Fine>get vial 2.pouch
put vial kit
get tail 2.pouch
put tail kit
get fur 2.pouch
put fur kit
get leaves 2.pouch
put leaves kit
mix kit
You get a vial of preserved blood from a sable pouch.

* W S HP:Fine>
You put a vial of preserved blood in a fragrant-smelling bag.

* W S HP:Fine>
You get a short, moist tail from a sable pouch.

* W S HP:Fine>
You put a short, moist tail in a fragrant-smelling bag.

* W S HP:Fine>
You get some short, black fur from a sable pouch.

* W S HP:Fine>
You put some short, black fur in a fragrant-smelling bag.
Balthazar closes the rock.
Door set to: rock

* W S HP:Fine>Balthazar begins some strange incantations...
You get a handful of narrow leaves from a sable pouch.

* W S HP:Fine>
You put a handful of narrow leaves in a fragrant-smelling bag.

* W S HP:Fine>
You start mixing the contents of a fragrant-smelling bag.

Balthazar utters the words 'braqt eaaf'
The exit north seems to blur for a while.

Balthazar begins some strange incantations...

put draught pouch
Balthazar utters the word 'yufzbarr'
Balthazar's fireball completely envelops you, causing infernal pain.
Aye! 
You cannot concentrate any more...
That really HURT!
You stop mixing the contents of a fragrant-smelling bag.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Healthy>
You don't have a draught.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Healthy>
Rza stops resting, and clambers on his feet.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Healthy>
Balthazar begins some strange incantations...

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Healthy>st
Do you not consider fighting as standing?

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Healthy>sa wtf
get bow pouch
wield bow
emote darkens: wtf
Ok.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Healthy>
You can't find a bow in the pouch.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Healthy>
You stop using a black runed dagger.
You skillfully wield an embellished longbow, looking very evil-minded.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Healthy>shoot

You barely hit Balthazar's right arm and tickle it.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Fine>Balthazar begins some strange incantations...

You shoot Balthazar's head very hard.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Fine>shoot
Rza falls down laughing.

Dåburå throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!

Balthazar begins some strange incantations...

You lightly shoot Balthazar's right hand and tickle it.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Fine>shoot
sa dud
You strongly shoot Balthazar's left hand.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Fine>Balthazar begins some strange incantations...
emote darkens: dud
Ok.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Fine>shoot

Rza utters the words 'diesilla barh'
Rza sends a powerful lightning bolt at you, you stagger from the impact.

* W S HP:Hurt Balthazar:Fine>shoot
Rza utters the words 'diesilla barh'
Rza sends a powerful lightning bolt at you, you stagger from the impact.
Aye! 
You cannot concentrate any more...

* W S HP:Wounded Balthazar:Fine>shoot
Dåburå smites your right leg extremely hard and shatters it.
Aye! 
You cannot concentrate any more...

* W S HP:Wounded Balthazar:Fine>Balthazar utters the word 'yufzbarr'
Balthazar's fireball completely envelops you, causing infernal pain.
Aye! 
You cannot concentrate any more...
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

* W S HP:Bad Balthazar:Fine>shoot

You flee head over heels.
PANIC! 
You couldn't escape!
flee

* W S HP:Bad Balthazar:Fine>
You flee head over heels.
PANIC! 
You couldn't escape!
flee

You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

You flee head over heels.
PANIC! 
You couldn't escape!
flee

You flee head over heels.
PANIC! 
You couldn't escape!
flee

* W S HP:Bad Balthazar:Fine>
Dåburå sends you sprawling with a powerful bash.
Aye! 
You cannot concentrate any more...
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

* W S HP:Bad Balthazar:Fine>
Your head stops stinging.
You flee head over heels.
PANIC! 
You couldn't escape!
flee

* W S HP:Bad Balthazar:Fine>
You are already attempting to flee!

* W S HP:Bad Balthazar:Fine>
You are already attempting to flee!
Rza utters the words 'diesilla barh'
Rza sends a powerful lightning bolt at you, you stagger from the impact.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>
You are already attempting to flee!
You flee head over heels.
PANIC! 
You couldn't escape!
flee

* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>
You are already attempting to flee!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>
You are already attempting to flee!

* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>
You are already attempting to flee!
You flee head over heels.
PANIC! 
You couldn't escape!
flee

* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>Balthazar slaps you across the face repeatedly. Snap out of it!
You are already attempting to flee!

* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>
You flee head over heels.
PANIC! 
You couldn't escape!
flee

* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>
Dåburå smites your right foot extremely hard and shatters it.
You are incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.

* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>
You are in a pretty bad shape, unable to do anything!

* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>
Ouch! 
You lose a level!

You are dead! Sorry...




The EQ they kept.
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Rogon2002-07-04 04:09:47
Now mind you, chudwicki isn't my char, i'm just speaking up for him since he don't frequent this excellent webpage himself, and the truth need to be known! This would never have been posted tho (happened weeks ago), if balthazar hadn't posted his sad little whine log first.
Britney2002-07-04 06:38:02
uhh i never knew Balthazar, Dabura and Rza are such an idiots :( kinda sad... would expect to see these kind of things on pukeside but not in mighty darkieside.
Torq2002-07-04 06:46:15
Britney has played MUME in past year? Or just a completely innocent and naive little teen? Ha Ha. "mighty darkside"? it does happen more on puke... but it sure as hell happens on darkie too.
A *Puke*2002-07-04 07:55:15
DIE little darkie...DIE !
Unknown2002-07-04 08:56:00
Well that's about fucked up.
Unknown2002-07-04 09:09:39
oops! nice action:)
Dåburå closes the rock.
Door set to: rock
Brutux2002-07-04 10:06:14
I dont want to stick my nose into this but one thing is sure, killing someone afk and looting is as lame as linklesskill. Killing afk Balthazar at Cave was not revenge, it was more like being a prick.
Ostu2002-07-04 10:09:15
Kids in a sandbox.
Fratus2002-07-04 10:51:27
Balthazar has acted like an idiot almost every time i've met him, so this log is no news
Britney2002-07-04 13:13:19
i am innocent and naive teen! hahahahaha
tukanek2002-07-04 14:06:10
Balthazar had only chance that he'll come in time, chudwicki at demons had almost same chance (if he had rock that would break exit and geting outa spam)
Rza2002-07-04 14:32:19
hi
Common Sense2002-07-04 14:44:50
Hmmmm... I think its funny how in Balthazar's log he tried to sound so innocent and make chuckwicki look like the bad guy now im just very curious of what Balthazar is going to say in his defence
Rogon2002-07-04 16:33:52
Well, i'm not saying chudwicki did a brave and noble thing to kill balthazar afk. The important thing, in my opinion, is who _STARTED_ it. If chudwicki had killed balthazar afk first, for some reason like, he wanted xp or eq etc, then i would be calling him a jerk now. But since this happened first, and it was so fuckin lame, i think there is no way to get revenge that isn't justified.
Miler2002-07-04 16:46:44
I know how to resolve this! Put Irish and Balthazar in a locked room and let them go at it man-o-man. I put my money on Irish.
Heh2002-07-04 16:54:45
I but my money on James Bond
Miler2002-07-04 17:58:29
James Bond isn't invited, you freak.
Balthazar2002-07-04 18:59:42
First, a correction, to "The EQ they kept". Immediately after this i died with some of the eq, to some elves outside. So whether I would keep it or not is not known. Chudwicki instantly had Nazgum spamtelling us to give the eq back (according to naz, naz gave him all the eq---some sort of sugardaddy situation), so I probably would have given him his shit back since naz is so persistent and i didnt need it anyway. Dabura did not see it this way, and eventually died to Nazgum. After that, pudwicki killed dabura a couple more times in noc naked etc, which he admitted to me was done out of spite.
Now as for defending myself, I don't feel that I need to. During my entire MUD career, I have not hesitated to get into sameside pk. I enjoy the thrill of pk, including the aftermath of it (the consequences where "buddies" get involved). I don't go around randomly sameside killing just because someone is vulnerable, or whacking newbies, or sameside afk killing. When I sameside on MUME it is because someone has pissed me off, and everyone who knows me knows that. Well, this guy was really pissing me off.
I first logged on at VT, and he walked in and kept saying "bob", "i could use some cures and a bob". Since I don't know him, and had no mana to spare, I just ignored him. Shortly after, I was resting at Khuzur for mana/moves, and he came in again, making the same demands. They were not questions, they were commands: "bob" "i could use some cures and a bob" "bob" "bob". Again, I simply ignored the fool and went about my business of hunting enemies. So by the time he started that again at the demon wolf cave, I was pretty annoyed. And when he made the comment "now you know me wanker" well that was when his coffin lid slammed shut and I decided to whack him. I am not making any excuses, and I am not ashamed. This is an explanation of why I killed him.
Chudwicki2002-07-04 19:40:00
I do not normally post on this site, or indeed visit it very much anymore, but Balthazar that is one skewed version of history. I did meet you in VT seveal hours earlier when I asked you for a bob. You said nothing so I left figuring that you were afk. We met again by Khuzur and demons where I showed up due to your narrates about pukes. Overall, (including VT and Khuzur) I figured I asked you for a bob 4 times in about 4 hours. You did not know who I was so you thought it would be an easy mark. What really bothers me about you is your total inability to tell the truth. After you killed me in Demon Caves you gave away a lot of my equipment (Dabura getting several items which were liberated off his corpse). Then you were slaughtered by two pukes right after you killed me so do not suggest that you would have ever given back the equipment. Quite frankly, I think you are a petulent little man who simply cannot tell the truth. The classic bully who whines when somoene pushes back.

I appreciate Rogon's posting this log on my behalf and I do hope it gives people a chance to see the other side of this story.
balthazar2002-07-04 19:47:47
I was going to add that it is pretty ironic that rogon, the king of killing 1 person with his group of 4 say anything about such a situation. His whole "MUME career" is built on getting himself into situations where he has the undisputed advantage in battle. hilarious. now a response to you pudwicki. You asked me for bob 4 times alone at khuzur, so dont lie about it. I have no problem with the truth, i live by the truth, and i always speak the truth. and you do not know if i would return the eq or not, you damn fool. with nazgum constantly pursing me, WHY would i keep eq that i dont even fucking need? god you are so fucking stupid. and i WELCOME attacks from norsu and nazgum and all your friends, i DONT CARE WHO YOU CALL. dont you get it? its part of the thrill you pussy.
Common Sense2002-07-04 19:55:00
*yawn* I take back what I said, that was boring!
Rogon2002-07-04 20:08:53
Balthazar, there's quite a difference between killing one from the other side, who knows you're an enemy, and sameside pk. "I enjoy the thrill of PK". yeah that was a REAL thrill for you wasn't it? Heh.
balthazar2002-07-04 20:21:11
yes it is fun to kill someone who flips me an attitude. it's one reason why i play darkie.
Tekwa2002-07-04 20:26:59
Someone on the darkie side has done this to me once, and I was pissed off for a while, but I didn't plan to kill him. It's part of the darkie side, they are evil, when they get in fights, they should kill each other more than pukes...
Your Brain2002-07-05 00:21:14
Blah blah blah blah blah Balthazar blah blah blah PK blah blah blah EQ.......
what you read/hear in this log and discussion
chudwicki's fac2002-07-05 03:03:55
* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>Balthazar slaps you across the face repeatedly. Snap out of it!
Jerk2002-07-05 06:54:52
I don't know you so I will kill you

_Disease
Zelk2002-07-05 07:40:39
Why can't we all just get along??? :P
Bornack2002-07-05 08:33:27
all i hafto say is

Balthazar opens the rock.
Door set to: rock
Balthazar opens the rock.
Door set to: rock
Balthazar opens the rock.
Door set to: rock
Rza2002-07-05 10:27:10
Demote this action using fuck! why should he get away with it and the others get shit on!
Nightwolf2002-07-05 11:20:02
If i ever meet u two, i will kill u both and burn ur corpses!
PEER2002-07-05 12:20:26
Who the hell is Chudwicki if he acts like Longo yet still has such mighty patrons as Rogon and Nazgum? *peer*
Rogon2002-07-05 16:12:26
that door-set thing has been discussed a billion things on a million boards and still not been found illegal. I don't like it myself and don't have anything like it, and i think it SHOULD be illegal. But until it is, i guess people can use it all they want :p
Unknown2002-07-05 18:57:25
HOw is Chudwicki acting like Longo, PEER? He gets whacked and does the same thing to the pricks who did the same?
that smarts2002-07-05 19:54:44
* W S HP:Awful Balthazar:Fine>Balthazar slaps you across the face repeatedly. Snap out of it!
Aschit2002-07-06 01:25:13
Balthazar, ever think about just saying 'no' or 'I can't spare the mana' etc.?
Vryth2002-07-08 09:19:05
I think they were BOTH justified in killing eachother : /
elrik2002-07-08 14:44:29
nod vryth
Rogon2002-07-08 16:28:15
How would it be justified for balthazar to kill someone because he asks for a bob? *duh*
Toin2002-07-09 09:57:52
That action is especially nasty tho since it triggers on another players action, and it definatly gives an unfair advantage in PK. I hyave died with numerous chars while exploring by entering through a door another name at the other side and then not seeing the name of the exit being closed due to spam.
In addition there is the situation where you are in a place with 2 closables all he have to do is to spam hit his close exit button and it wont matter which door you opened he will close the right door anyway. So that triggere is a LOT worse than just a trigger setting a door variable when looked at or bumped into.

And the rules state:

Actions are tolerated when they do not depend directly or indirectly upon another player event (Personal actions), but are illegal otherwise (External actions).

Thus actions whose purpose is to, eat or drink, ride a mount that just threw you off, open a door closed by a zone reset or a mobile, would all be legal, but track, attack, open/close a door someone just closed/opened or you bumped into because an opponent made you flee, flee, looting, etc, would not.
Toin2002-07-09 09:59:48
Bleh! It sucks not being able to format the text. :(
balthazar2002-07-09 20:41:39
rogon you really arent that stupid can you be??? i didnt kill him for asking for a bob. i killed him because his Attitude Toward Me Sucked. He spammed me for bobs, and when i told him to just REST, he got snotty. So he died, big deal. He needs to watch who he get snotty with, that's all. And I need to watch going afk when punkass bitches are playing!
Grunge2002-07-10 01:18:33
You are a friendless fool Balthazar.
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