pwned?

Jackass?

Whatsup with the ainus nowadays..

Yants makes me look cute and cuddly. Not to mention he makes a rock look intelligent.

Wow that guy Yants has serious issues. Whomever put that guy in a position of power made a terrible mistake.

Let's first talk about what Bhar did?

I summoned someone. Yes you probably consider it lame, I don't care. Do you still think it's a reason to kill a player linkless (being an Ainur)?

You should consider yourself lucky...they should just do the right thing and delete your account.

Please, do us all a favor and rid mume of this scum.

Delete account? Which rule was broken again by Bahr?

And what rule did yants break?

MUME Rule 548383283332222(a)(4):

Thou shall not summon newbies who are personal friends of Yants.

Notice I said account...we all know who p(bahr) is and what kind of scum he is.

I suspect Bahr is only telling half the story, though. If there was a posse waiting outside the jail to string him up, breaking link intentionally to avoid pk was illegal (and cowardly). Yants should still be considered for demotion for handling the situation as he did. The log shows it was very abusive and arrogant. A better way to deal with such situations is to silence the player (so he/she can't pop off), explain the infraction, give the player 1 or 2 minutes to explain his/her side and then impose an appropriate penalty equal to, but not greater than, what you would do to your mother or best friend in the same situation.

pBahr is teh leet, trust meeh, chetr knows teh chetr! we will pwn ur sockz off! chetr powwah! die ainurz, die n00bs, fear teh chetrs! AMEN!

I bet he got jailed purposely to avoid whities pking him for being a P thief then cut link to rent safely :P, purposely cutting link to avoid pk, which can be claimed as very unroleplayish or abusing jails *shrug*

Hah! That's what i call justice!

Well... I summoned Felwen and then stole his equipment. Then Usagi complained me for casting inside Bree and I went to jail. And, I was safe since pukes wasn't south of jail when I dropped link

In my humble opinion, both the a(Yants) and p(Bahr) should be punished with maximum possible punishment. p(Bahr) for cheating like p(Snakr) and a(Yants) for acting even worse than p(Snakr).

I find it funny when people post half-assed stories.

Lets throw a pity party for Bahr? Or call the WHHAAAAAAAAAAAABULANCE!

Well i dont get ya fakking point. ITS THEIR MUD!!! They make their own rules.... IF ya dont like it, quit, make ya own mud and make ya own justice. But i doubt ya will be better.

What a pathetic attitude. Maybe somebody in "upper management" is still hoping MUME will be a decent mud someday and just might APPRECIATE constructive criticism of abusive ainur and stupid rules. That's better than waking up someday and wondering where everyone went.

Just to clarify something to the other unknown person two comments above mine: "ITS THEIR MUD!!!"

It's who's mud? If someone has a low-level immortal, does that grant them ownership of the game in some way? I would argue that this person dosn't own the game moreso than any other person who plays the game. Although they may be fortunate to have been granted certain powers/privledges, this does not mean that whatever they do from that point on is "ok".

The fact that someone has an immortal character dosn't grant them immunity from criticizm either, obviously.

I always get a kick out of people with attitudes like 'deal with it!' or 'you don't like it? leave then!' because that just display's "ya" ignorance and complacency for all to see.

And, btw, I post as an unknown because I "am" unknown as far as MUME is concerned, though I have played enough muds and MUME long enough to have a valid opinion, if I do say so myself.

If he hadn't cut link there wouldn't have been a problem. Also he had no coins so he can't complain about the equipment.

He deserved it. He summoned me and took all my stuff several days before.

And my char was lvl 31, with pretty damn good eq. But it's not ebout the eq.

At level 31 with pretty damn good eq you deserve to be summoned if you don't wear an ARDA RING!!!! And, it's always about the eq.

Bahr is a wank. He deserved it.

Oh shut up. On one thread you whine that mume managment doesn't take care of cheaters and on the other thread you want Yants to be demoted for handling the situation properlly. Bahr is a known cheater, just in a log before this he summoned someone as well to take away his equipment. He doesn't deserve pity, but punishment!

How exactly can you manage to have good eq an not have an arda ring, or leather collar, or some other extremely common no_summon item? :P

Summoning someone isn't illegal and it's easy to protect yourself against it. Obviously Yants abused his powers and deserves a demotion.

Bahr the Noobosaur summoned Dwarnn and stole his shit. Now pDwarnn quit forever, thanks Bahr, fucking retard.

And Bahr shouldn't be whining about this shit, as far as I care I would've mobkilled him.

Who cares about some random? Anyways, mestlol if he quit because of that!

Unknown: pDwarnn must be shitass loser to quit for some crapset? Also ardaring is ugly? its not stylish? its CRAPRING!, and leather collar only pwnz for b3ars! USE TEH DIAMOND RING! Ah right n00bs like u cant get it :D I never use ardaring becoz they dont dare to summon me harhar! becoz im teh leet, who messes with me, dies slow and painfully!

Ignorance my ass, if ya played so many muds ya telling us and even "few" years mume, and still didnt realise the fact theres is nothing like justice, that it all stands on "few people" who has their own thoughts about "how the mume should work/be/etc", than ya are nothing but some teenie kid w/ pathethic dreams. Wake up idiot.

Well Amras... if you summon someone and steal his eq, it's mortal's justice that come into play. If you abuse game features (like jail, and cutting link) the ainurs have to step in and fix it.

Last comment by me btw.

Alantir, there's a reason to why noquit and novoid exists. I had neither of these and was safe as I would be let out of jail and could've instantly ran and rented, or quitted in jail. But since I knew I had no noquit and could zap link (and be voided in 60 sec)... I did, sure was not the smartest thing maybe since Yants obviously is hates me alot. He killed my elf mage also once!

And Yants if you had the slighest clue about MUME you would know that you can linkrent / void whatever in one hour without coins!

Summoning someone for the sake of stealing their equipment should be fairly close to bug abusing as well... so either way I have no problem with how Yants treated you.

Please just delete this moron's account...

Its not like he doesnt deserve it.

*shrug* I'm not getting into a pissing match with some imbecile who's english isn't up to par.

didn't he got sauron listed today ? :P

Bahr was wrong and deserved a sanction. Summoning people for equipment is not the offence. Escaping from mortal justice by breaking link is the offense. Whether the sanction was appropriate depends on Bahr's history of the same or similar offenses. Being a chronic offender (irrespective of the offenses), of course, should also factor in. (If he is summoning and killing people for equipment (as opposed to killing them for other good cause), that should be an automatic sauron's list.)

Yants was also wrong and deserves scrutiny. It is not helpful for ainur to punish in anger. Somebody who is not Bahr might have a decent excuse for link loss in that situation. Whether the excuse is credible will depend on the situation (for example, where and for how long was the player linkless) and the individual. Everyone deserves due process. All due process requires is notice of the alleged offence and a meaningful opportunity to respond.

Some of you will say it was Bahr so anything that was done was deserved. Maybe so, but the next guy might not be Bahr. It might be you. If it is, you won't find it so amusing to be confronted by some half-crazed ainur who is hell-bent on your destruction without giving you a chance to defend your conduct.

Yeah, i am a noob. I did not know about the arda ring, Dafar was my first char and i don't know that much about the game. I may be a noob, but that does not mean i should be summoned.

BAHR YOU SUCK !!!!

Bilgewater, you are a talented writer.

I'm more talented though.

Thank you unknown. You are too kind.

Shakespeare: Shuddup, you hack. You don't even talk good English! "Wherefore art thou, Romeo." *Laugh* What the hell is that supposed to mean?? Go to school, you cretin!!

I must admit Bilgewater is a talented writer. Shame he is also clueless - sort of like Bush.

Giggle@Dafar!

My twin sons are idiots.

My question is why do people like Bahr have such problems? Abused child? Sexually abused? Bullied? Drug addled?

Or just fuckups?

Stupid whining from Bahr. You more than deserved it!

ahh, this was beautiful, almost made me weep :)

Ert why did you quit mume... I need more levels *wink*

1) Bilgewater's comments rock, even though I don't always agree with him.

2) If it was somebody different than Bahr, Yants would have most likely treated him differently.

3) Bahr has done so much crap that he deserves absolutely anything he gets. He's the kind of person who's just around to ruin other people's fun.

4) I don't know what exactly Yants did (or did not do). But whether Yants actually did anything or not, I am sure Bahr and some others would find a reason to whine. Do it or not, the end result is the same, so why worry?

MEEP!

Hey bro

I would ban you from MUME and nuke your account if I would only have the abilities to do that

A known cheater whines about "Justice". Classic.

LMAO i agree about that 'damn good' set of eq missing an ARDA RING! Well-diserved at L31. In such cases it bothers me that others (Bahr) pay for someone's (Dafar) shortcommings. 'It doesn't mean that i should be summoned.' Well... perhaps not but lack of knowledge is no excuse imho.

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yants....

Fuck you yants and you can go fornicate your mom with an iron stick and while your at it fuck your daddy too ;)

"And my char was lvl 31, with pretty damn good eq."
...
"Yeah, i am a noob. I did not know about the arda ring,"

Well, which is it?