Conc Tactics
posted by Duendel
2004-12-16 17:21:11

Duendel 2004-12-16 17:21:11
I am a warrior as you may know and i use conc weapons, in the event i run into say
an orc or a bn or something i want to know what i should do as in tacticts. Should i switch
to aggr and bash them or change to wimpy and defend. What are some tacticts other conc
warriors use or warriors in general i would like to get better at fighting. IF you have
any just post a comment please. (btw i just got level 11 and got 193,000 to level) thanks you
Thorongil2004-12-16 17:50:03
The way I always viewed this:
If you run you can: Get chased down and die, or get safe.
If you fight you can: Die, Kill, run and get safe, or have them run and get safe.

With running there is NO positive option, so imho unless hugegrp, try to whip out the conc. Ofcourse, dont try to outbash legend uruk... if you run into BN, well, they are Arda's best sadomasochists. They were MADE to get spanked...

Levels wouldn't hurt btw!
Mandor 2004-12-16 18:59:59
If you encounter a BN, go agg, bash and kill. Watch out for stores (spells or trolls, they usually store both). For killing bns, anything is good. Spoons, map of bree, mostly anything. Concussion isn't the perfect, since they rarely dress in metals.

Orcs are basically better versions of dwarves. Better ob, better health, better moves, no foci. Here you have to change tactics according to the situation. For killing orcs, weapons should be chosen depending on what they are clad in. For metal orcs ('ard boyz) concussion is a killer. For the leathery ones, any good edged weapon is nice.

There, my useless knowledge unveiled. As if anyone didn't know these basic things.
Sogard 2004-12-16 19:40:59
If you have high wil and good spellsave, most bn casters will go manaless before you die imo.

Mandor's a bit off on orcs though. Orcs have more health and strength, moves only when mounted, and at night. A dwarf with travelling has a ton of moves, add bob and it's just sick. Orcs without black amulets are in for a world of hurt when hit with sprays or dispels also. Foci ob bonus makes up for the hp difference, as does the ability to use bless, which is 15ob more than an orc right there(10 if orc has rubyring).

When it comes to pk, there's really no reason to use anything but concussion. Against metal it has no real equal, including artifacts, as HBM and HoB hurt like a bitch. Most enemies will use metal, you'd be suprised how many casters i've encountered in thin metals.
Ert2004-12-16 22:19:09
duendel is a fake, dont pay him any attention, its gray
Unknown2004-12-16 22:24:11
Duendel,

I don't know much about conc tactics vs other weapons, etc., but here is a helpful tip:

Don't hit enter at the end of each line because then your post will look like your first one does in this thread, with irregular looking lines that seem to skip down in places where it shouldn't. Instead just let the word-wrap do that job for you. Thanks!
Duendel2004-12-16 23:51:19
dont have time to log in but why am i fake? what did i ever do to you gray
Unknown2004-12-17 04:25:32
sogard forgets that often puke warriors are not dwarfs, and often they do not have +10 ob rings or bless, many times all they have if is thin metals, and a chanted weapon.
Unknown2004-12-17 04:32:47
Well if your going to compare the "not fullset orc" to the "not fullset dwarf" then dwarf is still more powerful, since on dark side getting an enchant is about as tough as getting a focus on puke side alot of the time, so pukes still have +10 ob and better damage.... not to mention that little thing called sun, add bless as sogard said and u get 15 ob advantage again...
Duendel2004-12-17 04:49:10
Well, I have tried a new tactic with
a friend of mine (friendly fighting, not sameside
pk).

My tactic worked very well, I attacked my friend and fled immediately. I hit its legs
(since
my knowledge in tactics allows me to hit the weak spots) and rested.
Rancr2004-12-17 11:25:43
Always go aggro vs bns, even on awful, becoz they can die quick even if their armor is down.
Always hitflee them, and dont go hit them before your conc_delay has ran out. In opens theres like no need to bash teh bnster, hitflee works more good, becoz then you wont eat those prebashspellz and stufforz.
When ya meet a porcie then, always check out what gears it gots first to make your tactics of the decade...
If the porctorc is using smiter weapon (twohanded shitstick) then go wimpy with hammer and watch em get pwned, but if the other porcie is a pounder one too you should keep attention wether he is in wimpy mode or aggro mode, well i know one person who is always wimpy mode, even vs awful enemies *blink blink Peder*, well if your enemyporc is aggro you shoud go aggro aswell, since enemyporc prolly got more ob than man warrior-wannabe defence, and your ob will suck on wimpy, so ya cant hit him good!
But if porcster is wimpyih, or it is pEder, then you should go wimpy mode too, becoz prolly your def ownz his ob then and he wont be able to hit you, and you would prolly tickle him to death with your shitob and his shitdefence. (havent seen many deforcs).
To know diff wether your enemy is aggro or wimpy, you check out your own mood, check how he is hitting you, how much you dodge/parry, and how much you hit him etc. it all comes within time, finally you know all about it ;)
If you meet a porcshaman (pure one), go aggro whaka it rip, becoz it prolly cant kill you with his shitbolts and harms are too slow. Never be afraid of a torcshaman.
If the torcshaman uses pweapon (hammer,ws) then go wimpy becoz this shit wont be able to hit you anyway then,, and you easily whack his low-aggro-def:P
If ya meet a scout, eg, picked in 2 rooms closable, never be dumb enuff to stand still and flush, becoz usually ya eat sneak-shoot with bhsb or other bow...just spam around and hit him when u see thro sneak. otherwise chasing/fighting scouts is pointless unless rivers r frozen! Ok im out of available characters, have fun!
Rancr2004-12-17 12:58:58
btw no dwarf below level 40 cant even match my ob with fullset, even if the dwarf got fullset, bless, ob foci!
becoz orc war with str 23, con 21, wil 17, 166 ob at stonedoor solo, pwnz any dwarf! (conc 111% smite 111% slash 91%, 462 hps, 35 dodge, 115 pb on wimpy, 50 on aggro with hammer) try to get it as a dwarf, if not uberlevel
Duendel 2004-12-17 16:54:10
thank you rancr for all the help i think i got it now
Duendel 2004-12-17 20:43:54
(this was not me i dont see what everyone facination is with pretending to be me god whats wrong with you people like u have nothing else to do then try to be me and i didnt post the one above eaither about asking gray why he said that i told u all i was only gonna post when i log on so if u dont see a star by my name i promise it is not me and i do not post on the grafiti wall any more so everyne kn0ws none of that is me i just ask please stop it.Well, I have tried a new tactic with
a friend of mine (friendly fighting, not sameside
pk).

My tactic worked very well, I attacked my friend and fled immediately. I hit its legs
(since
my knowledge in tactics allows me to hit the weak spots) and rested.
Duendel 2004-12-17 20:46:34
i repeat again the one about me attacking a friend to test a new tactic is retarted!!!! please stop it. and i also repeat i will never post again without logging in and i also must repeat that i dont post on the griffti board no more if this continues to happen i will make a new disciossion anouncing all of this im MAD DAMN YOU MAD
Rancr2004-12-18 13:06:38
yeah, i had the same prob. Duendel, but i scared em some so now i can post without loggin on:P becoz they know they gonna die horribly if they fakk with me:P
Taloth2004-12-22 22:09:23
Remember our fight in shaman *wink*!!!

I pwned j00!!
Rancr2004-12-23 08:13:16
d00d d00d, becoz ya outeq'd me greatly pfft pwnage suckage rebel of the pigs! revolution of the undead cats i say!
Zain 2004-12-23 17:34:01
This thread is a waste of time, not one bit of useful information except from sogard.
Unknown2004-12-23 18:50:47
Rancr is the one posted the most usefull information here.
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