Kay guys... I have been playing for about 4 years. And though I know the game rather well, I create legend after legend and they all either spam die, or are way to hard to play.
My zorc scout just mobbed again because of lack of moves, and couldn't get a flask out in time...
My dwarf warrior never mobs, but gets wasted and spam looted every time he fights darkies... and it really gets old saving up money for a new fullset.
My link is so slow that when I play a mage I miss when his armor goes down and spam rip...
Any ideas guys?? I'm more of a solo player... and perhaps that's my problem, but like I say slow link so not a good leader, and I get sick of following people around and spam assist...
Any comment would be appreciated!
Have a lovely day:)

make rangerdef warrior... god def and many moves so u could buff good (always a lack of buffers) and also solo if u like since u buff so good and learn areas around so that u can lead groups around there and pk good

Dwarf warrior who can bob, armor and shield, maybe cast strength too if you're not one of those people who can/wil spam OiE for rings. 18+str, metalset, armo/shieldspell and good moves + bob lets you run quite far.


Not sure wat the best stats would be t make it optimal, but 14 int/wis doesn't seem like it's it.
*curses lameass 1yr reroll wait*

Make a troll. Learn the troll ways and be true to them.

Yeah but dont abuse quit feature quite to often :P watch out, i will pray on trolls in west ! while chatting with mume females :P

I forgot to add ... *grin* and LOL

>My zorc scout just mobbed again because of lack of moves, and couldn't get a flask out in time...

Maybe you should pay your clientsettings some attention and play with the chars you've got.

As i said before bears are fun to play and even if you die which i do atlest every other day you dont need to worry bout eq and you can get lots of fun pks with your bear friends and black numenoreans are by noc like poor old Vilhelm whom i killed whaaahhaahh i enjoyed it to

If you don't care about eq at all, play a troll. Stronger version of bears, can't move durin gday, but aren't confined to the east...

But bears are for people who don't have the skill to play trolls, so they make a bear and hang about outside NOC and think they're god's gift when they managed to kill a level 5 orc.

Chars who hard to mob? Def warrior with slash...when solo, he dodges and parryies most normal mobs. Grouped with a nuker and a damaging warrior (smiter or pounder) it is a xp machine.

Defence warrior sucks :/

def war owns

whats your link? How many ms?

To tell you the truth, my link is about 180 ms... but I am blind irl. I use a screen reading program which reads the text on the screen to me verbally... but it usually has to read one thing before it reads the next... it can't just skim down the page. I do however use the arrow keys a lot to scroll up and down quickly to find the info I need... but this isn't always fast enough. I revived my def warrior because of comments on this post... and though he never dies, he has like no power *shrug*
It makes me appear as though I have a slow link... and I miss a lot in spam! People tell me just to quit, that mume is only for sighted people, *wink chet* But I know I can succeed, I just need the right char to do it with:)

Btw, messed up slightly there... the part about the def warrior should be at the bottom:)

Oh ouch. Then I'm with everybody else - defwarrior is the way to go. Set your wimpy high. Make keybindings for "open exit" and also for "open whatever-is-the-current-door". Maybe get one of those client setups that do everything for you, especially walk long distances or through doors. (I never had one, so I do not know what it takes.)

Group, preferably with people of your own race. If you are an elf, your survival chances against players increase exponentially if there are other elves in group who will be targetted instead of you. When it becomes known that you are a defwarrior, people will typically avoid targetting you anyway, at least until everybody else in your group is dead.

Also try to play when Europeans are asleep. It is tough enough to play against Europeans even on a normal US link.

I disagree, Defensive Warriors are worthless in pk, unless you have an artifact weapon. If you want to smob all your life go with a hobbit or elf db warrior. If you want to pk get a weapon that can do some damage. The easiest race for to learn PK is troll. Trolls are immune to poison, Trolls have over 700 hps at legend levels giving you plenty of time to react, until your screen reading program can catch up. Trolls can get 130 ob naked at ford, and trolls can just eat corpse which keeps them full for many days. Trolls also level quickly, just remember to give yourself plenty of time to get indoor before sunup. Good Luck .... Tushie.

FYI: With max con my level 40, 3rd age and very handsome troll has 668 hp.

Exactly my point, 668 trolls have more time to react than a hobbit who dies in 3 hits.

My point is that 668 at level 40 with max con and 3rd age is less than over 700 at legend levels. Legend level about 55 or so on, maybe. Anybody who makes a troll expecting 700 hp at level 26 will be very disappointed.

Although a hobbit might die in 3 hits, it might take a while to hit the nasty thing 3 times. Trolls are pretty hittable, bashable, blindable and sleepable and take a lot of damage.

Grinder is wise and sickoffailing would do well to heed her command. It is still no miracle cure for failing.

The biggest mistake he can make is getting too attached to his troll because he will sundie. Especially while developing good troll instincts for time and place. Even very experienced players sun because they lose patience or get overconfident and push their limits 2 seconds too far.

600 hp drops pretty fast when you consider that they can't get nearly as much abs as other races(except bear, which can't get any), and an unarmed olog is going to have less ob at a place than scouts, and well-setup warriors.

Then you factor in the shitty wil that 90% of new troll players have, and they eat heavy damage from spells, and blind isn't too hard to land.

I dont know where you get from def warriors are good :/ i can tell ya they arent :/ so i made a OB focus now :/ stil can have 150 defence in white chain but at least i have 155 OB in neutral zone :/

In a trap noone will survive....unless he has handgranate

In a trap just be the 10.dwarf of 10.troll. Then you will survive. 1.of-whatever never survives... that is unless he's Elestir (or at old no-delay days Erebos) or some other lvl80+ freak. Though, when you're a hobbit or elf or bn then no matter what number you got... you'll probably rip in a hugegroupfight.

1.Gray always survived traps. :(

Damn storeporters. :P

Whoever posted this log said, "My dwarf warrior never mobs, but gets wasted and spam looted every time he fights darkies... and it really gets old saving up money for a new fullset."

If you can avoid mob death with a dwarf, you should be able to avoid it with 300 more hps as a troll. As for getting old waiting for to get a full set, trolls don't need much equip and what they do need is normally laying on the floor. Some will disagree and say trolls should crush or smite and gleaming is a must, but with very few exceptions you can get along just fine without these items. Unarmed is great, gives decent OB and eliminates the need to requip ever. Playing troll has taught me more about the game than any other class. Try it its fun, and if you die go up chamber and try again. Casters will say trolls are blindable and eat huge damage from spells, but in a one room closeable I have seen three casters die to 1 troll. Try buffing a troll with your caster, even with stored spells I bet you can't get it below hurt.

I just wanna thank everybody for the comments!:) I have started a few new chars, and so far succeeding well... though I am still quite worried about pk:( My def warrior Manti is doing quite well... soloed bm spiders yesterday at lvl 17:) stuff like that really makes me feel better about my playing experience! I have also started a troll... and though I am rather afraid of sundying... I must say that trolls are fun! It rocks to be able to eat anything:)
Also thanks guys for not posting any degrading comments about my playing as a blind person!:)
Again thanks a lot guys!!:)

Does your screen-reading program work well with clients like JMC or Powwow? In that case you can ask the client to remove lots of the spam that you don't need to read - to help you see the important messages. You could also change "You feel less protected" to "Warning: Armour down!" and things like that.

Other important things you could change, would be "shatter" messages - if you get shattered, or your PK-opponent gets shattered, you want to know as soon as possible. A client like that could highlight it by saying "SHATTER" at the very start of the textline, instead of near the end.

Maybe those are some ideas for you, or maybe you've already tried it - anyway, you have my best wishes and I hope MUME works out for you!

Your welcome, I knew you would love playing troll. Being scarred of sundeath is normal, we all sundie sooner or later but you should notice how easy it is to level and level quickly.

I just wanted to say that I hope you have an enjoyable playing experience.

I was just about to post that you could abbreviate combat and movement messages, and possibly do fancy stuff like:

*an Orc* is here, riding a hungry warg
*an Orc* is here, riding a hungry warg

replace by: 2 orcs are here, riding. Hard to know what may be life-saving info that shouldnt be abbreviated, but it seems like speed could be the most important thing anyway.

Good joke.

I think that's awesome that your blind and you still won't give up, I hope you not only succeed but become one of the best players on here, whose your troll, i've been playing troll lately, and i'd gladly help you level, or pk, and you can even lead if you like, as far as degrading comments, I wouud sure hope and think there's no one around that would sink as low as to use your blindness as something to joke or tease you about. And tushie i haven't seen you on troll yet since i've been playing ! :/

Last time I played troll I killed 6 pukes in stonedoor with rancid, my troll is level 19 and petrel (or something) made me change his name from bunghol -> bungol. I'll log in soon, I love playing troll.

I have so many subs with colors it is the only way I can play, I can see red when I am bashed, or when someone starts to cast, when someone opens of closes a door.

I advise you to make subs for every single thing that could happen in pk to speed it up, and gag the rest.

How long does the program take? If you could speed up its output to match mume's speed then that would be best, you might even be able to outperform sighted people if you could do that. If the speed was the same it would be hard to keep up so you sould need a way to play unique sounds for things, so instead of hearing the whole thing you would be able to pick out from the individual sounds and have a vague idea of what is going on.

This is a list of things that would help to be highlighted, it comes right from my subs.

star name star , player enemys are bolded in mume and have asteriks on both sides of thier name, I don't know how that works or how you tell them apart from npc orcs, but streamlining it might help you distinguish in spam. Having bold enemy names is like the diffrence between someone saying orc, and yelling it

%0 begins some strange incantations...
%0 is standing here trying to concentrate
%0 seems to have recovered %2 senses.
%0 sends %1 sprawling%2
Your bash at %0 sends %1 sprawling
Your head stops stinging.
asleep
closes
dismounts
fighting
hidden
locks
lying here, mortally wounded.
opened
opens
panics
resting
rests
ride
riding
sleeping
unlocks

The idea is if you are ina room with 3 player orcs and 3 mobs, and the output is coming out at real mume speed the info that is most important will be easier to hear.

The nest step is to get an awesome client use the numpad to move and have some targeting aliases so you don't have to type kill *orc* or bash, but can hit 1 key to do it, and change targets with a few key strokes.

If you can't speed the output up and make the reader highlight certain important words then you can still make it as a follower of a group which is not bad at all

Yo guys!:)
At the moment I am using jmc, and I have to say that it is a heck of a lot better then telnet! I have set up a couple of simple scripts... tnl, report, exp counter and such. The subs might help... but to tell you the truth I know rather little about scripting, and I'm not sure how to set up stuff like this. The screen reader that I have is called "Jaws for windows" and I know that it is possible to create scripts for it also... so possibly the voice inflection could be changed when saying certain words *ponder* I'll have to look into that. It is possible to speed up the voice output of Jaws... but it can be incomprihendable... atm I have it pretty fast:) My troll is named Boldur, and I have already sun ripped *laugh* Running from a *dwarf*, and having my aliases set for my def war... so I was attempting to "hit *troll*":P Rather fun... but I met a couple of rockin trolls who spammed leveled me back up:) I love that trolls are a family, and seem to help each other out and such!
Please let me know if anyone can help me with some jmc scripts... I would really appreciate it!!:)
Also... my other chars I play or have played are Dunca, Anval, Milano, Ephraim... all who I have kind of failed in the past... spam mobbed Milano from lvl 26 to lvl 20 trying to retrieve a corpse:(( Then Manti and Boldur:)

check out elvenrunes.com they have a script section for jmc.

to substitute
#substitute {text} {newtext}

to gag, check the jmc help file there are many ways to use gag, it is complicated

#action {text} {#bell}

plays the standard beep on your computer when a certain text comes up, however it only plays the one sound.

MANTI I LOVE YOU *bounce???* stilll dont understand that and i am p(sepha)

Keep on troll, sun death you can recover from in 1 day. I have seen a troll reach legend level in 24 hours. That troll family will keep you going and if you die to mobs or pukes, you didn't loose any equip.

Good luck with your client.

I use flee flee flee flee flee n n n n flee n flee n flee w flee w flee n flee n

nod self

Tushie

Depends how good at xp you are. I've never legended a troll, and it takes me RL months to make a legend puke.

Exping puke is sooo easy, you can be hero with 1 day rl playtime only :)

Arzantor, if it takes you RL months to make a legend puke, either you're spending no time at all on the MUD or you're doing something wrong.

My guess as to the thing that hurts levelling worst would be hanging out around Bree and Fornost. Even Grey Havens isn't half as bad. Everytime I visit Bree or Fornost I remember why I've been avoiding these cities - darkies are all over the place, tons of people are begging for cash, no mobs load anything sellable, and all mobs are always dead anyway.

For any whitie lowbie or midlev who is levelling too slowly, I suggest relocating to GH. But if too many people listen, it might become another Fornost and just as useless.

I found that levelling a lowbie BN caster is a major pain in this version of MUME due to increased backfires, increased levels of spells, and decreased defense. You have to be like lev 16 before you have reliable shield and bob. Zorcs may have problems levelling for a different reason - being unable to walk far in sun. But whities, torcs, and trolls are absolutely no problem to level, even if you play alone.

even around fnost you can exp fast, lvl to 10 on wolves then take 6 mercs and kill old fnost/brush/greenway, and you are hero solo in 2 days

I'm sorry to say that I grouped with you some, and uhh, i just couldnt handle the slowness...apologies.
My advice would be to (as if i knew what its like to be blind)...to SUB and remove A LOT of the mume input. MOST of it is useless. remove narrates (99% of it is useless), sub like Evilmotha the Tarknarb Orc to Evilmotha,mount and noname orc to Orc, mount, etc, there is a LOT you can abbreviate. etc

With 6 mercs you could just go to tharbad and overkill some unlucky BN in baker. :P

I found xping/tping in the vale till vll 9-10 then going west and xping back towards bree can be rewarding. If you end up xping at bree/fnost for the 1st time at lvl 10 or so, you'll beable to go w of the shire at around lvl 13 or 14, and your trophy will be relitively empty, so the xp will come rolling in.


Ofcourse that's no where near as fast as playing a troll and being in agood xp train. I've never gotten to legend in 24hours as a troll, but lvl 22 in 25 hours is still a pretty nice pace.

Sogard you newbie, mercs doesnt assist agains darkies *bonk*

And because they dont survive 2nd quake....agains bn are pretty useless....atleast it was back then when i used them :/ now im only leading exptrains

The exp train is a beautiful thing.

I xp all over the place. The problem is getting a decent group. I hate solo xp, it's too slow, I can't kill half as many things and I have to regen all the time. But decent groups are hard to find, most people are useless, either too low level, too slow to mount/dismount/assist etc, cast the wrong spells.

Anywhere west of neni is saturated with pukes spam-killing everything in site. Even BM is full of hero/legend groups killing lions.

And no I don't spend much time on the game, what with a full-time job and all that. I tried levelling BNs but I just get bored, there's nothing interesting in it. And Zaugurz are boring, taking 3 hours of dying and redying just trying to get somewhere to xp, and spending half the day hidden under a rock.

Sogard, good xp trains are hard to find, and even if you find one you can't so much as leave the keyboard for hours because the group's obsessed with xp.

ok. i need help making a char... i think i want an orc.. cause i want to do some serious damage.. i dont like trolls and bears cause i like getting eq and so on:D just makes game more fun:P... but anyhow can some1 help me on stats that are good for warrior that deals alot of damage and can xplevel fast?

Str:20 Int: 6 Wis: 7 Dex:13 Con:20 Wil:15 Per:10 .

theese any good for orc warrior?

If you are not experienced play puke.....we dont need more noc legends :D

depends on what you can play well, those above stats make for good reshirt hitter and will have nice hp.

Str:18 Int: 6 Wis: 6 Dex:17 Con:19 Wil:15 Per:10. -would have the strength for conc in 2-4th age, could take some pracs in parry and slash and dodge to have good defense. Bash will be 105-107%, hp will be decent and the wil will help vs mages.

Str:20 Int: 5 Wis: 6 Dex:16 Con:20 Wil:13 Per: 8.
-max str/con, -2 form max wil, -1max dex. Higher dmg/hp than the above stat but little lower parry/bash/dodge/slash.

Str:20 Int: 6 Wis: 6 Dex:15 Con:19 Wil:15 Per: 9.
- high str, good con, high wil, good dex. Could do some flexible stuff with this I suppose

Str:18 Int: 8 Wis:10 Dex:14 Con:19 Wil:15 Per:12.
-more fleixble, will have bette ruse of cure light and track than the others. Personally probably owuldnt use these. :P

Also, I suggest making some use of this: http://blackshadowclan.mine.nu/statgen.php

Vrak's gen is quite nice for figuring out what you want to make, and wat you'll get with what stats*.


*skill %s are for pure classes, cross/combo classes will have lower %s, and those %s are for maxpracs i skills, which not all races get.

I'd make a char that can track. I.e. at least 9 int and 13 per or so. Non-tracking chars are boring.

Also, I'd get high strength so can wield everything and always. At least 19 base, I won't go for less.

I'd make something like 20 10 6 13 19 13 13 which is approximately what my orc has (forgot precise stats).

Or I would make a multiclass that can cast armour and bob... but I cannot give you advice here, someone who played these should.

Hey guys!:)
I have decided that for the most part, for my playstyle, def warriors are just way to boring to play! I have also decided that leveling trolls takes forever once trophy is saturated with warrens mobs... waiting for sun to go down and all.
So, on that note, I have redone my optimal dwarf warrior stats, and have created Mjolnir. He has max str max con, 17 wil, 15 dex, 12 per, 12 int, 8 wis. My problem has always been that my screenreader is just to slow to handle playing an offensive warrior in pk situations... but I have upgraded my scripts to reflect comments on this thread. I now have it set so that when a darky enters or leaves the room... instead of saying *a dreadful orc* leaves west, it now says... west dreadful orc... so that I know the direction to follow right away, and it really cuts down on spam... I have also gagged the flee messages, so I don't get over spammed... and I have it beeping when a darky casts or I get shattered... so far stuff like this is really helping out! And I love solo exping with a max offensive dwarf warrior... got to lvl 10 in an hour... I love it! Hopefully this little guy will be a success:)
Keep the comments coming... any help is always appreciated!:)

thanks for help guys..
i arent newbie i have some hero+ thanks for help will make orc smiter:D

"i arent newbie i have some hero+"

giggle!

Sickofffailing, just keep optimizing your script and don't be afraid to fight. Make a tough character but at the same time don't try to get the best equipment and best levels before you fight. If you want to learn how to PK you must actually start doing it. So get a decent set, go east, maybe near ford or Brolg - I don't recommend NOC if you still are abit slow since you can easily get overspammed and killed in bottlenecks. Just keep at it man, I really wish you best of luck and if you succeed you would have accomplished something really great.

" I have also decided that leveling trolls takes forever once trophy is saturated with warrens mobs... "


My current troll i'm playing somewhat is lvl 18 or 19, and still gets 12-15k per olog it kills in warrens, and 5k+ per earth troll. Sure, I have about 50 brolg kills, but saying trolls are boring to xp once warrens xp sucks is like bitching that you can't legend an orc on just NOC xp (which you can if you kill 'everything' with a few powerful people, but it'll take a shitload of time).

By the time you start maxxing out warrens xp(this includes trees and forest mobs), you should be ready to go xp on abr and do ohurk/brolg with others, and you'll be nearl hero by then.

Once around hero level, get in a couple moria groups and legend will come easily.

I don't recommend NOC if you still are abit slow since you can easily get overspammed and killed in bottlenecks

Actually I recommend NOC if you're a bit slow as you will get overspammed and killed in bottlenecks, so will learn to play faster and how to react in bottlenecks.

In NOC you will learn only wimpyness,traps,overkills etc etc etc :P yes we need more of those !

Its awesome how people bitch about bree legends (clearly NEW players) and then recommend another NEW player to sit in NOC :)))))

Way to go !

make sure you can tell easily between player orcs and mob orcs, that will become very important if you ever kill anything inside brolg, dt or vt, etc.

Leveling a troll is really, really easy. There's tons of xp around warrens and in walking distance (which is like the only choice you got anyway). If you want to speed level, dont waste a lot of time trying to get to "exotic locations." Focus on the xp at hand. Group with people around your own level (within 5 levels, plus or minus) as much as possible and do mobs that are appropriate to your level. Use some common sense. What is better: Doing one mob for 20K that takes 20 minutes of planning and post-kill resting time or getting 50K in the same 20 minutes doing smaller mobs? AVOID at all costs the poor planners who have you sitting for day sun trapped with your thumb up your butt and nothing to do. Trolls have very big thumbs. It's not pleasant.

And always remember, Mr. Sun is not your friend. And as I can personally attest, even with a lot of experience in a certain situation you can sun if you don't expect the unexpected, like fleeing from battle onto a stupid river that rushes to a bunch of stupid rooms that you can't climb out of in time to get to a snuggly dark place.

Doing stupid stuff doesn't make you brave. It just make you stupid and frequently dead. Death is a big waste of time. If you don't believe me, ask Elvis.

If you run out of things to exp on in warrens, go other places, set up camp at goblin caves or go west noc and do things outside by day and inside by night. OOC is a personal favorite which leads to moria, moria is fast fun and did I mention it is fast exp? get 5 level 20-25 trolls and you will get 1 million exp in a few hours.

Actually I recommend NOC if you're a bit slow as you will get overspammed and killed in bottlenecks, so will learn to play faster and how to react in bottlenecks.

Yup, getting spammed with ALAS YOU CANNOT GO THAT WAY message sure is helpful. And you're giving advice to somebody who needs even more time to react and would like to avoid spam as much as possibile. Fuck, even the most skilled and linked players will die in bottleneck because the hunter has an uper hand, he knows where he's going and he can spam ahead of you, he's in control. But as the victim if you got exit e w s and you are spamming east and happen to flee s you will get 4 messages or so of you can't go that way and get spammed down like a little boy.

So I suggest first to get used to Pking more and more then go to more challanging areas. spam dying in ZOC bottleneck for example will do you little good.

Yup, getting spammed with ALAS YOU CANNOT GO THAT WAY message sure is helpful.

Yeah, it's helpful in learning how to spam in bottlenecks. If you don't practice it then when it happens you'll get arseraped.

Unlike Arzantor, I actually do have good advice for acting in a bottleneck in an emergency. Here it is:

If you are on foot and your mps are OK, turn sneak on even if you do not have it practiced.

Believe it or not, it works, and works damn well. Just keep moving, do not stand in one room.

But I am not sure I believe anyone can outspam our European players while using a screen-reader. If I was you, I'd try to play when they are not on-line if I was going someplace dangerous.

Hi
ive met quite a few blind players in mume and what I understand many of you know each other RL. First a bit of encouragement, it might be a bit lame, but here goes: When I was in Spain I became addicted to a bargame, footbolline, sortof a football-table game with bars going across. Very fast, and the spanish were increadibly good, some of them. I just had to learn it and smack them around some. Well, one of the best players had only one hand, he had to sortof prop up his goolie with his stump and move his one hand around to do something active. He might not have been as good as he might have been with two hands but he sure kicked my ass. I think many of the blind players have the right attitude and addiction to become kickass players. One I met, I thought was a good player, before I knew he was blind, then I though he was rocking. Against mobs this was.

The problem that must be solved is to display the information streaming from the mud in audio-format EFFICIENTLY. Maybe even some information will work better in audio? Anyways, its not the class or race that is important, its that you guys get together and do some heavy duty client-work. I suggest you try to create an extreme PK-setting for your client. Here are the ideas ive come up with, im sure you will come up with many more if you get together:
1. hide unnecessary information. Example, corpses. If you during pk-fight happen to walk into room full of corpses, that single misfortune and the spam it creates could mean you are toast. Why not hide all corpses that dont have a * star around them? other things that could be hidden are non-aggressive, non-city mobs, like squirrels and deers and such. Once you are legend, you have no interest in them. Im sure you will find more stuff that you can just make your client filter out.

2. Code information. Most seeing players do this too, like, for example, my client displays the word east as > > EAST > >. Couldnt you associate each direction with a tone for example? to be continued...

... If you associated each direction with a tone and succeeded in playing it rapidly as soon as you enter a room, you would imidiatly get an idea of the exits in that room, under a second maybe? Another example is ALAS YOU CANNOT GO THAT WAY, that could be substituted by a windows plong or somesuch?

comment: i didnt read all before, i realise now that some ppl above have given the same advice as i have, but in more concrete and better format. Also, dunca was the player i was talking about earlier, hi;) Ill just carry on anyways.

3. I think one of the blind players said that its harder to get a sense of the map, a general sense of location. That makes sense. If so, why not learn one part of the map really really well? And always pk in that area? Might be a bit boring, but should increase your chances. Like tharbad, for example? (i tried this when i started, bns that came there still kicked my thieves ass, but after awhile, at least i could put up a fight).

4. Well, for slow linked players, thief is a good way to get some kills. Since you walk unseen, you get fist strike, if you are lucky, that is all it takes. Also, you could make that first strike even more potent with preparing poisons. And even poison the arrows in your quiver. MOVES is a huge problem for thieves. I dont know how easy it is to check stat for you. Again, if you get a kick-ass client, it could make a background noice to give a constant idea how many moves(and remove some of the prompt to speed up the information-flow, this prolly too much work, as my idea with tones for directions). One race that gets many moves is Orc scout with str 14, con 20, dex 18, per 18. 3rd age, fgc. Another benefit of scout is that you will fight solo, thus the sortof spammy-groupfights can be avoided. Another advantage with orc-scout is draught. Another is that your victims are more clueless so you will land more stabs. A disadvantage is that you have to move long distances. Maybe bobbing elf-scout? str 13/14 int 13, wis 12 dex and per max or somesuch? ...

Just want to say that I really like you guys, the ones ive met. I hope that you are able to speed up the informationflow somewhat, if only you can do that you will rock some, is my belief after seing dunca in action. Good luck. Also, feel free to ask my chars, karandor, ganga, joss or kruger for help, like running to get an ingridient for a venom or somesuch(dont know how hard it is to walk long distances, get a feel for the map), or help to level a bn if you try that. Good luck.

i am 2000% totally impressed by you! I dont think there is 1 person in this world, that have stunned me like you do. Playing a textbased mud when you have a seeing handicap. Keep it up and dont loose the spirit (it seems to me that you have a very possitive and good one)!

I killed you in dunland once with backstab playing my prime character, Malus. Kinda makes me sad now but you gotta learn somehow right?=)

But just keep trying and do not go noc yet, it will only bring you xploss and youll be a very easy target to spam down by all expert pkers.

Good luck and ill see you around i hope=)

Btw, i dont know if its mentions above but i hope you have spam mood off and brief mode on
Command in game : Spam
Command in game : brief

if you dont this will make you 10x as fast

WOW, i too didnt realized you play with such a handicap and im amazed...i hope you will enjoy this game much and become very succesful :) just dont give up ! and i wish you good luck and much fun :)

I suck to much to give you advices about pk, but i can give you some advices about subs in jmc, or create some for you and generaly help you in mume...so if i ever see one of your whitie characters i will contact you and show you few very nice and helpful people (although they pk rarely)...

I remember I skipped this thread more-or-less way back it was created, but now stumbled on it somehow. Rather I stumbled on Faint's comment and then just had to check out what did you write above and what were you asking!

I have to admit that I'm absolutely amazed of you! Keep up the good work and I hope we'll see you ruling Arda one day! :D

One more thing... sickoffailing aka pManti:

If you still happen to read this, then check out this too:

http://www.elvenrunes.com/cgi-bin/logs/secure/show.m?log=b59968,78505&disc=1&sort=1&snew=1&omode=&all=&typ=

Something I started inspired by your posts here. :)

Sickoffailing:

I'm sure i'm not alone in this, but I believe that most would think that you are truly an inspiration.

Keep up the work and good luck!

Man, you might like playing a thief, as you can see the other guy before they see you and kill them in one backstab some of the time.. all the best mate

I think he should stick to warrior and play in group with leader, he has handicap like he is playing on 2000 ms link...and im not sure if *enemy* will stand in one room for so long...and the hunting and tracking would be pain, because tracks decay so fast you need to be quick...yes...quick as master Sogard !

hi i want to make a char that deals damage and only damage! no troll since sun:P no bear cause they smell.:P *giggle* but anyway i was thinking of a orc shaman maybe.. cause orcs are nice and i havent made a shaman before. dont even know what to pr and what stats they have. so i guess i am asking help for making either a puke mage or a shaman... please someone help me on both.

want to make a char that deals damage and only damage

In this case rather orc smiter, not shaman, shaman is kind of opposite to this after all... ;)

Unarmed/Smiter troll or puke mage with max weather/call/store/quake if you just want damage.

any1 help me make mage stats? puke or bn

i want to slashing.
i want fireball
i want blind
i want block/break
i want store
or just gime what spells what are best in pk i want offensive spell caster

Wow!! I haven't checked this thread in quite a while... and I've got to say that I am stunned! Some of the recent comments from Faint etc brot tears to my eyes! I some times think that Mume is a waste of time... and that I will never succeed! But I can see that it is a worth while thing to do in one way or another:)
You know, I logged on Dunca last night, and went on a spam pking trip... lots of fun... but I also spam dyed... and never got a kill! Talk about depressing! Luckily, I haven't played Dunca in a while, and so I wasn't very attached to him! My main problem was that I would see *a troll* and think... "oooh, I can take a solo troll" then I go from fine to dead in a couple seconds, and when I check the log I see that there were several trolls... but they kept hit fleeing, so I only saw one at a time! The other problem was that I couldn't tell in the spam how fast my hits went down... I think I am a pretty aggressive pker... and that instead of hit fleeing, I try to hit bash... because once I flee it is hard to find the other dude and hit him first:( So I think I am going to try the scout thing again... My friend Buro {who is also blind and from Utah:)} and I are going to creat a couple of orc scouts tonight... and we'll see how that works! I like orcs because of their higher hits and moves, and they have the same stats as a man scout... as well as the fact that to find pukes, I will go to a place that I already know! bree etc. Wish me luck all!
Btw, I am not able to read your er comment Androg, though I have applyed 3 different times for an er account, I have never been granted one. I am flattered to know that you wrote something dealing with this thread at any rate:)
Thank you all... if anyone has any other ideas for me... my email is stripling_warrior@mailbolt.com, my irl name is Brawny, and I would greatly appreciate any comments/suggestions... in case I don't check this thread and all:P

mh... I think you should be able to read the last 30 comments on ER threads even when not logged on. Or it at least use to be so... no longer any more?

Anyway, about those several hit-fleeing trolls. Perhaps you could try to start "separating" them by using different labels, in case many same-looking enemies... like, three *trolls* or so. Could work, perhaps?