K so I am trying to decide if I want a mage or a cleric. I want some one who uses spells and that will succeed in pk situations. so if you could tell me some pro's and cons to each I would apreciate it thanks.

Clerics rawk because of sanc, so they good in groups...and mages rawk solo and in groups cause they can blow shit out of the water. Then die manaless :)

Cleric can also be played solo very well...
Cant really give you any suggestions since its all matter of taste, you can get storequaking cleric or bolting cleric or charming cleric or whatever, its just what you like the best...Just gotta prac it right way so both stuff would work.

Mages seem to be most fun, especially solo. All the successful clerics seem to be pretty high level though.

Arzantor: whois electy? 33? cleric? well, i have more solokills with him than you have trophies with all your chars?

Hahaha

Storequaking, bolting or charming cleric? All those are mage spells, you know...

Most clerics who go solo either go for superb defence, or good ob (battlecleric with sanct).

I'm more of a mage player.

Mandor yes im well aware of that, but it dont hurt to get bolting/storequaking/charming cleric, it makes your cleric more nifty to play:) charming cleric works most good in solopk. Also i never had powercleric who had super ob or defence...when Electy was good and level 40+ i had orcrist and some slash, resulted me 110 ob in shining, wich was ok but i just hate to play fullset chars...

Just get dispel, blind and bob and kill all the blind enemies. Even warrior orcs die like ducks when they're blind!

Alderik it reminds me spamming from stonedoor to lb while blind and then eating reblind and gettin into warrens as Rancr, Pampa,Budach,Rumata chasing me...
So correct if im wrong: "blind snagas die like ducks, clueful ppl get away"

Ah, the times of fireballing clerics (Elegil anyone?).

I like clerics a lot, and I have an ancient bias, but, without a doubt mages are far better solo players.

As a cleric, you might be able to solo if you are good and if you have a European link. The only decent solo pk I've managed on my American link is late at night, when Europeans are asleep. It's pretty much useless otherwise.

Clerics start getting decent around 33-35, and really hit their stride around 40. Also, they need staff far far more than mages do, because of spell cost (large) and spell delay (long) - if you want cheap high damage early on , go with mages. On the upside, if you give your cleric some strength, dex, or con, you can get slashing, will have more hps, and you won't be dying like a pig in group fuckups. Another upside is that groups are going to love you.

Keep in mind that my perspective is that of primarily non-pk person; and in retrospect, that's also to a large degree because I tend to play clerics, and it really really sucks to lose staff when you die -- far more then with mages. The most pk I've been involved in was immediately after I die - with nothing much to lose (staff).

we are never asleep, we are levelling 24/7

It reminds me of a certain Rancr eating blind north of Brolg and dying trying to reach his trapplace ;) So I guess you're right only snagas die to it.

I don't think I've ever had a char die to blind, because whenever I eat a blind, I run unless I am trapped and would die anyway.

Blind may be useful either in a bottleneck where your overpowered smiter/crusher or a megagroup will likely kill the target anyway, or if you want people to say "fuck it" and go home, or if your group is in a closeable with more opponents than it can handle. Elsewhere, give me a damage spell anytime.

Btw, the absolutely best exper caster is a mage with quake and decent strength (for wearing absorb eq). I may be wrong, but I think that as a mage you store spells much easier than you do as a cleric.

If I was looking for a pk char these days, though, I'd get a caster/warrior combo. Dunno how high lev you need to be to make it work, though.

Alderik i was nekkid and mpless, ya little m00f cant hunt nothing anyways.

Mages are good for solo play :) pure cleric is very hard to play solo :) all depends how you wanna play your char :)

why hunt if you can find free moveless noobs to warlord /get exp/ get eq on / on / off?

Alderik i can never die to you unless im naked/berserk

Or running...

why should i run 1v1 from you:)

So rancr you refute my claim of clerics being less adept at solo kills at low levels by talking about your MAGE getting solo kills? Well done you fucking idiot. What next? Mentioning how it's easy for warriors to get solo-kills by talking about Nazgum?

How do people like you remember to BREATH?

Thanks for all your comments btw. HOw much would it hurt your cleric spells if you got bolt? Ive been thinking about that cuz at low levels clerics have no offensive spells against undead and that really sucks! I posted this for people to comment on the subject now about how you can kill other players and how im better than you and shit! keep on the subject please! thanks again

I belive the best "caster" is a combination of skills/spells. No1 plays pure anyway.
Clerics useally take armour/shield "enchant", block if pk. Mages take cure&curec,bob.
One can argue mage is better when u count pracs u need in other class....higher % shield/armour

Lowyn's pretty close to purecleric, just uses armor/shield spell doesn't she? Sure, not everyone is a highlvl with half a dozen maxrescue redshirts protecting them 24/7, but she is about as pure-cleric as you're going to find. Armor's a must, even if you're sanced 24/7 because while your sanc might cap damage at 12 or so, good abs and a killer armorspell will have all but the best blows lightly hitting you. Ever try fighting Zaber or some other highlvl combo with shining/fine/thickmetals and armorspell? Takes a goddamn long time to kill them when you barely hit at best with 22 str and an ornate.

From what I've seen/heard from those with high lvl chars, a pure class is pretty pointless at very high levels, because they run out of things to practice, and 2-3 dozen pracs in another class inm the right skills makes them a hell of alot deadlier, like when Nazgum went from purescout to warscout, and used AoD/HoB. :)

Lowyn has store and quake now